請問千里馬結束後兩年內是否不可能拿F1出國念博班

看板PhD作者 (Qualia)時間16年前 (2009/07/14 17:03), 編輯推噓3(3010)
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在下今年將以千里馬計畫出國,本來打算利用這一年跟國外教授混熟, 然後年底申請國外博班,如果申請到,明年千里馬回國後可以再回美國重新開始念博班。 本來以為可以以休學的方式保留台灣的學籍,然後在國外讀博士期間回國考完博士論文, 以為這樣並不違反千里馬的返國完成學位的規定。 不過目前有點搞不清楚J-1的兩年條款限制,所以想請問以下相關規定的意思, 並且想請問各位學長姐是否有以類似流程成功出國重新念博士班的經驗。 依照下面摘自AIT及不同學校關於兩年條款限制的說明,兩年條款似乎只限於某些簽證, 並不包含F-1簽證,因此,似乎上述計畫是可行的; 就是在千里馬計畫結束返國後,馬上重新以F-1簽證去美國念博班, 而不需在國內待滿二年才能申請去念。 以下是AIT網頁中連結到美國國務院領務局的官方說明,兩年條款限制似乎並未包含F1簽證。 http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1267.html#9 ... Change of Status and Waivers of Requirement - If the exchange visitor is subject to the two-year home-country physical presence (foreign residence) requirement, to INA 212(e) requirement, he or she cannot change his/her status to that of H, L, K, or immigrant lawful permanent resident (LPR) until he or she has returned to his/her home country for at least two-years or received a waiver of that requirement. Such waivers may be requested and if approved, obtained under these five separate bases: ... 下面這段文字引用自Wayne State University https://www.wsuoiss.wayne.edu/sections/immigration_info/j_1_scholar_j_2_status /j1_two_year_home_country_physical_presence_requirement ... TERMS OF THE REQUIREMENT Being subject to this rule has three major effects on the exchange visitor's future U.S. immigration options. Until a subject exchange visitor either complies with or is granted a waiver of the two-year requirement, he or she: ‧Is not eligible to obtain an H or L visa at a U.S. consulate; ‧Is not eligible for lawful permanent resident status; ‧Is not eligible to change status from J to any other nonimmigrant status from within the U.S., except to A (diplomatic) or G (employee of an International Organization) status. In most cases, USCIS will also not approve a change from J-2 to J-1 or vice versa. Please note that an exchange visitor who is subject to this rule may still leave the U.S. and apply for a new visa category other than H or L. For example, a J-1 may leave the U.S. and apply for an F-1 visa overseas even though he/she may not change status to F-1 within the U.S. Entering the U.S. with a new visa, however, does not relieve the exchange visitor of the obligation to fulfill the two-year requirement at a later date. ... 下面這段文字引用自 The University of Washington http://iss.washington.edu/admin/Jpp.html ... Exchange Visitors subject to the two-year residence requirement must return to their "home" countries and be physically present there for an aggregate of two years before being eligible to return to the United States in immigrant (permanent resident/green card) status, H status (temporary workers and dependents), or L status (intracompany transferees and dependents). Exchange Visitors subject to the two-year home country residence requirement are not eligible to change their nonimmigrant status from J to permanent residence or to any other nonimmigrant category except A (diplomatic) and G (international organization). Note that former Exchange Visitors are eligible for all other nonimmigrant visa types, even if subject to the two-year residence requirement. Only lawful permanent residence, and H and L visas, are prohibited. Exchange Visitors subject to the two-year residence requirement are eligible to leave the U.S. and apply for visas to return as tourists, or as F-1 students. The usual visa requirements must be met. ... ※ 引述《jubilee (Liang)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《Ioriisme (操你媽的PhD..)》之銘言: : : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : : (部份文恕刪) : : 二年條款指的好像不是相同VISA吧 : : 應該是某些限制的VISA... : : 參考資料:http://wings.buffalo.edu/intlservices/pdf_files/residence.pdf : 抱歉我這裡沒講清楚 : 就我所知,兩年條款的限制是,原J1 holder需在原居地待滿兩年 : 期間不得申請 : 1. 有移民可能的簽證(例如H1B) : 2. 相同category的J1簽證 : J1簽證有好幾種category,例如,千里馬時申請某種category,一年後畢業想再到 : 美國去做postdoc,則不得用相同的category,但可以申請另一種每半年就要離開美國 : 再回來的J1 : ....另外這是我去年諮詢icenter而得到的說明,如有謬誤或法規變更請見諒 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.123.44.236

07/14 20:52, , 1F
一般情形是如此,除非你能拿出其他東西說服AIT
07/14 20:52, 1F

07/14 21:56, , 2F
您是說J1後並不能以F1身份出去嗎?您有這方面經驗嗎?
07/14 21:56, 2F

07/14 22:01, , 3F
如果兩年限制並不含F1簽證,那麼拿I20應該就足以證明
07/14 22:01, 3F
jeanwaychen:轉錄至看板 studyabroad 07/14 22:07

07/15 10:23, , 4F
建議你去美國再問吧.
07/15 10:23, 4F

07/15 11:48, , 5F
恩..直接自費去對方實驗室待如何?不用被國家綁
07/15 11:48, 5F

07/15 14:13, , 6F
因為涉及到時間規劃的問題,如果不能申請學校,這個暑
07/15 14:13, 6F

07/15 14:14, , 7F
假就不用急著準備GRE的考試。而且甚至會猶豫是否去千
07/15 14:14, 7F

07/15 14:15, , 8F
里馬,因為當初申請千里馬的目的就是希望可以申請博班
07/15 14:15, 8F

07/15 14:16, , 9F
給5F:因為在下念得是文科,而且沒有經濟能力自費,所
07/15 14:16, 9F

07/15 14:16, , 10F
以只能以千里馬的方式去。
07/15 14:16, 10F

07/22 08:15, , 11F
已經問過AIT,兩年條款不限制以F1馬上出去,不過F1結
07/22 08:15, 11F

07/22 08:16, , 12F
束後,仍然必須回國履行兩年在台灣的義務。
07/22 08:16, 12F

01/06 22:25, 7年前 , 13F
建議你去美國再問吧. https://daxiv.com
01/06 22:25, 13F
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