[外電] Mickael Pietrus為了上場時間而跟大范爭吵

看板Orl-Magic作者 (月天魚)時間13年前 (2010/11/05 18:06), 編輯推噓31(31051)
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Coach Stan Van Gundy, Mickael Pietrus spar over playing time Pietrus跟大范爭吵上場時間 Coach Stan Van Gundy and General Manager Otis Smith met Thursday before the Magic's practice. The topic, in a nutshell: Dealing with changes that are good for the team … but not so good for players involved. 大范Otis在星期三魔術隊練習之前會談: 交易帶來的改變對球隊是好的,但是對牽連其中的球員就不太好了。 Their meeting came in the wake of small forward Mickael Pietrus' shouting match with Van Gundy near the bench on Wednesday night. 會談的緣由是在禮拜三對灰狼的比賽中,Pietrus在板凳區跟大范互相咆哮。 Frustrated with his dwindling role, Pietrus was pulled out of the game by Van Gundy after just three minutes into the final period during the Magic's blow-out victory against the Minnesota Timberwolves at Amway Center. Pietrus在魔術大勝灰狼的那場比賽,僅在最後時期上場了三分鐘,就被大范換下場, 對自己逐漸邊緣化的角色感到挫敗。 Teammates, including co-captain Dwight Howard, tried to calm Pietrus. One player said that MP wanted to be traded if he's not playing regularly, although MP told me he didn't want to leave a contender. 隊友們包括魔獸都嘗試去安撫Pietrus有一個球員Pietrus如果沒有每場獲得一定 的上場時間的話會想要被交易,雖然Pietrus告訴我他並不想離開一個能競爭總冠軍的 球隊。 Van Gundy and Pietrus both confirmed Thursday to the Sentinel that they exchanged words. 大范Pietrus在星期四對媒體證實他們互相交流了一些想法。 "MP was unhappy about when he went into the game and he was unhappy about me telling him to play defense," Van Gundy said. "He didn't like what I was saying and I didn't like his response, so I took him out of the game." 大范:"Pietrus對於他上場的時機很不爽,也不爽我跟他說他要防守,他不爽我說的話, 我也不爽他的回應,所以我把他換下場。" After Van Gundy announced in camp that he would be tinkering — using bigger lineups with postseason matchups in mind — this was bound to happen. 大范在訓練營宣佈他會進行修補 — 在對抗季後的對手時使用較高大的陣容的想法 — 之後,這情形就開始發生了。 The experimenting at power forward causes chain reactions felt at small forward — Pietrus' position. 這個大前鋒位置的實驗導致小前鋒位置也受到連鎖反應影響 — 也就是Pietrus的位置。 Van Gundy already had a sit-down with power forward Ryan Anderson. Anderson expressed his displeasure after seeing Brandon Bass move past him in the rotation. 大范已經被小安抗議過了,當看到Bass的輪替順位超過自己時,小安表達了他的不滿。 Next game — or next week — it might be another player or two grumbling as Stan carries out his plan. 下場比賽或者是下週,可能又會有一或兩個球員向大范抱怨他執行的計畫。 "It's going to be a tough thing for a few of our guys. The good part is we have a flexibility to play different situations, but to do that, somebody has to pay every night," Van Gundy said. "I guess, as we go along, we'll see who can handle it and produce. I don't mind if they are pissed off with me, but I don't want it translating to their teammates. I need them to stay together as a group." 大范:"這我們的某些球員來說可能很殘酷。好的地方是我們有很大的彈性去面對不同 情況,但是要這樣做的話,必須每晚都要有人付出才行。 我猜,當我們繼續下去,我們會知道誰能處理以及給出表現。 我不在意他們是否對我很火大,但我不想他們把火氣出到隊友身上。 我需要他們像個團體一般待在一起。" This is the critical part — players making sacrifices for the greater good. 這是關鍵性的部份 — 球員們為了更大的利益而做出犧牲。 Players and coaches squabbling over playing time is nothing new in the NBA — or in Orlando. Bass was upset last season, J.J. Redick the season before that. 球員和教練爭吵上場時間,這在NBA不是什麼新鮮事 — 或是在魔術。 Bass在上個球季很沮喪,而JJ在上上球季如是。 Van Gundy said "it's not personal" and he admires MP, a sweetheart of a guy and a fierce competitor. Then again, Pietrus, in his third season with the Magic, always has had a meaty role. 大范:"這無關個人。" 而他稱讚Pietrus,有著細膩的心同時也是個強烈的競爭者。 Pietrus在魔術的第三季總是擁有豐富的角色定位。 Pietrus concedes he is frustrated, but meant no disrespect to Van Gundy. "I'm a very competitive guy. What I miss the most is being out there," he said. "It's not playing time; it's getting back that adrenalin that I need. It's hard for me not to have that. "It's why I'm so frustrated. … I respect Stan. Of course. He's like part of my family." Pietrus承認他很挫敗,但這不表示他對大范有任何不尊重。 Pietrus:"我是個競爭性非常強的人,而我最在意的就是那個。不是上場時間,而是 找回我所需要的亢奮、激情。對我來說沒有那樣東西很難受。 這就是我會如此感到挫折的原因,我當然尊敬大范,他就像我的家人一般。" The irony is that Van Gundy started Anderson at power forward against the T-Wolves, liking his match-up against Kevin Love. 諷刺的是大范小安做為先發大前鋒去對抗灰狼讓他跟Kevin Love作為對手。 The trickle-down forced Rashard Lewis to vacate the power-forward spot and start at small forward. That sent small forward Quentin Richardson to the bench and buried Pietrus — Richardson's backup — behind Q-Rich and Lewis. 兩千萬被要求空出大前鋒的位置而做為小前鋒。這讓阿Q坐到板凳上而Pietrus變為 阿Q後備 — 排在兩千萬阿Q後面。 Van Gundy didn't put Pietrus into the game until the start of the final quarter, with the Magic ahead by 39. MP was irritated with mop-up minutes after playing 12 minutes in the rout of Washington. Van Gundy then benched Pietrus after their tiff, replacing him with Redick. 大范沒在第四節之前讓Pietrus上場,在魔術領先39分之時。Pietrus在對巫師的比賽中 上場12分鐘後對於只能垃圾時間上場感到惱怒,大范在口角之後,讓JJ替換他上場。 MP pledged to remain professional and wait his turn on arguably the league's deepest team. Pietrus保證會保持專業並且在這可說是聯盟陣容最有深度的球隊中等待他的機會到來。 "That's what makes it tough, when there are so many players who can play," Pietrus said. "All of us bring a lot to the table, but you don't have a lot of space on the table to put everybody's dishes." Pietrus:"當有很多球員能夠有所表現時,這會讓事情變得殘酷。我們全都帶了很多東西 到桌上,但是桌子上沒有那麼多空間去擺每個人的盤子。" For the Magic, it's all about whether players keep from breaking the fine china over Van Gundy's head. 對魔術來說,這全賴於球員們是否能克制住不去把大范頭上的瓷器打破。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.117.9.72 ※ 編輯: MoonSkyFish 來自: 122.117.9.72 (11/05 18:16)

11/05 18:16, , 1F
說難聽點..入行多年了基本功還那麼爛 也不能全怪教練沒愛
11/05 18:16, 1F

11/05 18:16, , 2F
每個都是可用之兵也是困擾呀
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11/05 18:17, , 3F
感覺球隊私底下問題重重...暗潮洶湧...很擔心啊
11/05 18:17, 3F

11/05 18:34, , 4F
有12名球員可以上場就有這種問題......
11/05 18:34, 4F

11/05 18:35, , 5F
感覺大范想要讓魔術隊隨著對手不同 而有不同的上場陣
11/05 18:35, 5F

11/05 18:35, , 6F
容.. 但大家會覺得能夠定下來比較好嗎?
11/05 18:35, 6F

11/05 19:31, , 7F
記得大范說過他並不想一直變上場陣容 他希望9人輪值 頂多10人
11/05 19:31, 7F

11/05 19:33, , 8F
希望Smith作個好的交易來解決這個問題
11/05 19:33, 8F

11/05 19:36, , 9F
先發:魔獸 小安 兩千萬 卡特 尼神
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11/05 19:36, , 10F
替補:鍋貼 巴斯 阿Q JJ 杜洪
11/05 19:36, 10F

11/05 19:38, , 11F
把MP換一個大個子 不用太好 有高度然後杵在籃下就可以
11/05 19:38, 11F

11/05 19:45, , 12F
可用之兵很多,可是關鍵時刻的大將沒幾個,上場時間又難喬
11/05 19:45, 12F

11/05 19:47, , 13F
MP在魔術現在的陣容估計也只能當替補,一個冰完換一個...
11/05 19:47, 13F

11/05 19:49, , 14F
如果不往上交易就只能這樣持續了,抱怨也沒法...
11/05 19:49, 14F

11/05 19:50, , 15F
MP這樣的抱怨就跟去年的Bass一樣....
11/05 19:50, 15F

11/05 20:12, , 16F
不要把只把MP拿去換肉柱吧 這樣會降低戰力 不如貼Bass
11/05 20:12, 16F

11/05 20:14, , 17F
可先發的4號位猛將這樣每個位置都有2個輪替 又可以湊5門
11/05 20:14, 17F

11/05 20:15, , 18F
齊 小安還是放2號替補實在點 畢竟他也沒多撞
11/05 20:15, 18F

11/05 20:16, , 19F
MP加上Bass可以換900萬的先發了 當然前提是真的不要Bass
11/05 20:16, 19F

11/05 20:17, , 20F
可是魔術已經把他放到交易平台了......
11/05 20:17, 20F

11/05 20:23, , 21F
這就好像nba 2k,有時候可用之兵太多也很煩惱,士氣一直掉
11/05 20:23, 21F

11/05 20:24, , 22F
先發:魔獸 鍋貼 兩千萬 卡特 尼神 這樣才對
11/05 20:24, 22F

11/05 20:25, , 23F
2K10都知道要這樣擺了...
11/05 20:25, 23F

11/05 20:46, , 24F
BASS有被放上交易平台嗎?
11/05 20:46, 24F

11/05 21:24, , 25F
2K10~11我也都跟凱凱擺一樣陣容 這樣籃板火鍋超猛
11/05 21:24, 25F

11/05 21:26, , 26F
照楷楷那樣擺 魔獸的替補怎麼辦
11/05 21:26, 26F

11/05 21:30, , 27F
這樣擺忍手調度問題更大吧= =
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11/05 21:32, , 28F
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11/05 21:32, , 29F
魔獸想辦法HOLD住 真的太多犯規 鍋貼就回歸C的位置
11/05 21:32, 29F

11/05 21:33, , 30F
反正要兩人都犯規麻煩也不容易 大不了讓外圍先犯掉
11/05 21:33, 30F

11/05 21:39, , 31F
MP+BASS能換到的PF有誰呀 列個清單看看@@
11/05 21:39, 31F

11/05 21:40, , 32F
難道要學湖人搶劫灰熊? 換M.Gasol過來XD
11/05 21:40, 32F

11/05 22:01, , 33F
感覺很少會有人拿好PF和我們互換吧 加上MP誘因也不大
11/05 22:01, 33F

11/05 22:09, , 34F
打電動而以不用怕有犯規麻煩= =
11/05 22:09, 34F

11/05 22:17, , 35F
打電動我玩Lewis也可以場場30分...他評價還有74咧 科科
11/05 22:17, 35F

11/05 22:18, , 36F
唉...口氣好像太酸 其實只是對他很失望 快恢復手感吧!
11/05 22:18, 36F

11/05 22:23, , 37F
多讓他打SF找回超音速時期的身手吧..明明該是顛峰年紀
11/05 22:23, 37F

11/05 22:44, , 38F
2K11的Lewis很強耶!!!該不會是因為他也叫2K的關係吧= =
11/05 22:44, 38F

11/05 23:04, , 39F
離題 2K系列他的出手方式我超準XDD
11/05 23:04, 39F

11/05 23:30, , 40F
MP的投籃練習 http://tinyurl.com/25n9p8d
11/05 23:30, 40F

11/05 23:31, , 41F
之前似乎有報導說他的手腕似乎還沒痊癒 不知會不會影響很大
11/05 23:31, 41F

11/05 23:32, , 42F
MP跟2K這幾年技術面都沒有長進 唉 尤其MP防守越來越散漫
11/05 23:32, 42F

11/05 23:33, , 43F
至於先發禁區擺DH跟鍋貼 假如DH要休息就鍋貼續打中鋒呀
11/05 23:33, 43F

11/05 23:34, , 44F
湖人也常常禁區用三人輪替而已 Bynum跟Gasol還有Odom去輪
11/05 23:34, 44F

11/05 23:36, , 45F
大范很少擺DH+鍋貼的組合 他大概覺得不好用吧...
11/05 23:36, 45F

11/05 23:36, , 46F
所以DH+Gortat先發, 要輪替時變成DH+Bass或Gortat+Bass
11/05 23:36, 46F

11/05 23:37, , 47F
所以其實輪替或休息不是問題 應該是這兩隻高低配合很難
11/05 23:37, 47F

11/05 23:37, , 48F
MP跟Bass綑一包去換Maggete好了
11/05 23:37, 48F

11/05 23:37, , 49F
但今年DH有練45度角擦板及中距離 是可以找時間配一下了
11/05 23:37, 49F

11/05 23:37, , 50F
我們禁區玩三人輪替跟湖人全面性差太多了...
11/05 23:37, 50F

11/05 23:38, , 51F
他們三人各有優勢 幾乎沒啥重疊
11/05 23:38, 51F

11/05 23:39, , 52F
對呀 就是使用效果上的問題
11/05 23:39, 52F

11/05 23:42, , 53F
魔獸跟鍋貼兩人進攻範圍都不大 作用重疊 空間會擁擠
11/05 23:42, 53F

11/05 23:43, , 54F
不過優點是這兩隻高大 體能又夠好 能多跑動起來的話
11/05 23:43, 54F

11/05 23:43, , 55F
跟後衛狂擋拆然後轟炸籃框應該不錯
11/05 23:43, 55F

11/05 23:47, , 56F
我覺得雙塔偶爾擺還好 當常態打效果不會太好
11/05 23:47, 56F

11/05 23:48, , 57F
當然 我覺得這只適合拿來打湖人 對超賽跟熱火用別招
11/05 23:48, 57F

11/06 00:07, , 58F
aql,真的要這麼做哦???
11/06 00:07, 58F

11/06 09:10, , 59F
不過MP只能擺SF嗎? 當VC冷手感 JJ也不准 換他當防守
11/06 09:10, 59F

11/06 09:11, , 60F
組用也可以吧?? 不過這樣看來也是第三順位XD
11/06 09:11, 60F

11/06 09:15, , 61F
說也奇怪 魔術砲台那麼多 可是很喜歡同時準 同時澇賽
11/06 09:15, 61F

11/06 09:38, , 62F
魔術射手群在空檔真正令人放心的好像沒有....
11/06 09:38, 62F

11/06 11:24, , 63F
總歸一句話只會打弱隊,強隊就沒轍
11/06 11:24, 63F

11/06 11:28, , 64F
聽說 現在被魔術打爆可以獲得弱隊證明一張
11/06 11:28, 64F

11/06 11:30, , 65F
又在總版聽說如果又是被卡特打爆 可以免打剩下季賽 直接抽狀元
11/06 11:30, 65F

11/06 11:30, , 66F
今年籃網開季還在第一有一陣子 現在馬上變弱隊
11/06 11:30, 66F

11/06 11:30, , 67F
不知道到了季末會有幾隊收到弱隊證明
11/06 11:30, 67F

11/06 11:35, , 68F
明天剛好要打山喵 到底是魔術會收到強隊證明 還是山喵會收到
11/06 11:35, 68F

11/06 11:36, , 69F
弱隊證明呢
11/06 11:36, 69F

11/06 11:36, , 70F
又有沒看過的人跑來酸...
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11/06 11:37, , 71F
最好是打強隊沒輒 很多人好像以為上季魔術被超賽橫掃
11/06 11:37, 71F

11/06 11:38, , 72F
雖然差點 不過最後就是沒 還拿下兩場 最好是多弱
11/06 11:38, 72F

11/06 11:49, , 73F
一樣米養百樣人,什麼樣的人都有阿
11/06 11:49, 73F

11/06 11:50, , 74F
這種人沒必要跟他多費唇舌,忽視就好
11/06 11:50, 74F

11/06 14:36, , 75F
要酸不會找不到理由 倒是我們對一級強隊真的要加油QQ
11/06 14:36, 75F

11/06 14:51, , 76F
習慣就好 你會發現被酸的都是強隊 況且魔術被這樣嗆
11/06 14:51, 76F

11/06 14:52, , 77F
最傷心的應該是老鷹............
11/06 14:52, 77F

11/06 14:57, , 78F
所以老鷹版主常常來這崩潰給我們看阿XD
11/06 14:57, 78F

11/06 15:20, , 79F
其實我一直覺得皇帝迷愛酸魔獸弱很奇怪XD
11/06 15:20, 79F

11/06 15:21, , 80F
弱隊能痛宰當年例行賽第一的騎士隊耶XD
11/06 15:21, 80F

11/06 20:44, , 81F
隔壁PEJA連登錄都沒有 也沒意見 學學人家
11/06 20:44, 81F

11/06 20:46, , 82F
Monty Williams:Peja那麼貴 我一樣讓他坐板凳!!
11/06 20:46, 82F
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