[情報] Baseball Prospectus’ Top 101

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3. Lucas Giolito, RHP, Washington Nationals Last year was a good one for the Giolito clan. Showtime announced a Twin Peaks revival (Lucas’ uncle co-created it with David Lynch, and his grandfather played Dr. Will Heyward, the remarkably normal town coroner), and the youngest Giolito made it all the way to Double-A, striking out better than a batter per inning and flashing true top-of-the-scouting-scale stuff along the way. He is now more than three years removed from the UCL tear that kept him from going first overall in the 2012 draft, and with an invitation to Nationals spring training already secured, Giolito may soon be on the hunt for some cherry pie and a damn fine cup of coffee in the nation’s capital. 13. Trea Turner, SS, Washington Nationals In a scene that Tom Stoppard probably left on the cutting-room floor, Turner spet the first half of 2015 playing for an organization that had already traded him. Everyone knew this; most just nodded along politely and hoped he didn't twist an ankle. He didn't, and even got a new rule named after him.(Draftees can now be traded after the World Series rather than their teams having to wait a year to move them. See Dansby Swanson's inclusion in the Shelby Miller trade this offseason for an example.)Despite his high overall ranking,Turner could get overlooked on a list this deep in shortstop talent. He is a very good runner, but doesn't have Ozhaino Albies' or Jorge Mateo’s gaudy stolen-base totals. He is a solid defender, but isn't a potential Gold Glover like Orlando Arcia or Raul Mondesi. And he can hit, but the offensive profile isn't as tantalizing as J.P. Crawford's. Unlike those five names, Turner is already a major leaguer. The Nationals brought in Stephen Drew to provide a little competition, but Turner should reach his rightful place before too long. 29. Victor Robles, OF, Washington Nationals All prospect rankings involve a certain amount of dreaming, but if you are going to dream, find a player on whom you can dream big. Robles offers some of the most vivid, 35mm Eastmancolor dreams in the minors right now.The 18-year-old raked in the New York–Penn League last summer, forcing scouts to re-evaluate their expectations. The performance alone would be noteworthy in a league filled with experienced college arms, but Robles pencils in three future 70-grade tools (hit, run, arm) on the scouting sheet as well. He is a long way from the majors, but he has an impact profile both in center field and at the plate. 75. Reynaldo Lopez, RHP, Washington Nationals A pop-up prospect in the New York–Penn League in 2014, Lopez proved more hittable over a full season at High-A last year. At its best his fastball sits in the high 90s and hops to the arm side in the nick of time. Physical gains also had his curveball snapping harder and avoiding more bats for Potomac. He struggles at times to repeat a delivery that can get overwhelmed by his top-shelf arm speed, but the cadence and raw material for a solid command profile are present. The Nationals have built his workload cautiously, and figure to polish him at Double-A this spring. -- やっ..........!!!!!!止めろペイモンこの野郎~~~~~~っ 地獄でいきなり聖書なんえ 読み上げやがってえ~~~~~~~~~っ!!殺すえおっ!! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 59.115.137.88 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Nationals/M.1453811772.A.1ED.html

01/27 08:29, , 1F
好快!還以為各隊Top10都出玩了才會給Top101 感恩推
01/27 08:29, 1F

01/27 09:03, , 2F
還沒正式公布 這是偷跑版吧XD…
01/27 09:03, 2F

01/27 09:07, , 3F
不過雖然很多家都已經給你們Robles頗高的評價 但BP這
01/27 09:07, 3F

01/27 09:07, , 4F
個真的有點高了…不要寵壞一個還沒上過A的新秀阿XD
01/27 09:07, 4F

01/27 11:39, , 5F
往年BP比較保守,今年就不清楚了
01/27 11:39, 5F

01/27 11:40, , 6F
剛剛發現BP 101與BP光芒TOP 10的排法有些微出入,這些人可
01/27 11:40, 6F

01/27 11:40, , 7F
不可以不要鬧內訌啊
01/27 11:40, 7F

01/27 11:43, , 8F
條子入選5支
01/27 11:43, 8F

01/27 11:44, , 9F
5 Mazara,8 Gallo,15 Brinson
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01/27 11:44, , 10F
59 Tate, 68 Ortiz
01/27 11:44, 10F

01/27 11:45, , 11F
ARROYO入團....這是樂透簽嗎
01/27 11:45, 11F

01/27 11:49, , 12F
我已經看過全文了我知道^^
01/27 11:49, 12F

01/27 12:30, , 13F
其實我覺得BA的排名通常比較保守 BP比較敢給 評分也
01/27 12:30, 13F

01/27 12:30, , 14F
比較實際 不過BP真的流失太多人才 補上來的如何還不
01/27 12:30, 14F

01/27 12:30, , 15F
確定如何 僅以條子來看 這排名是蠻中規中矩的啦 就是
01/27 12:30, 15F

01/27 12:30, , 16F
前三個怎麼排意見會不太一樣而已 我也不認為Mazara
01/27 12:30, 16F

01/27 12:30, , 17F
能排前五 但今年新秀強度確實比較弱
01/27 12:30, 17F

01/27 14:33, , 18F
BA我覺得是最歡樂的 BP是對自己愛得很敢給 其他反而保守
01/27 14:33, 18F

01/27 14:33, , 19F
但這份BP101有點BA化 失去特色了
01/27 14:33, 19F

01/27 15:17, , 20F
BA是分數很歡樂 但tool不夠好或風險大的通常會花更多
01/27 15:17, 20F

01/27 15:17, , 21F
時間觀察 升降幅度不至於太大
01/27 15:17, 21F

01/27 15:34, , 22F
BA就是喜歡TOOLS啊 給分很高然後暴跌
01/27 15:34, 22F

01/27 15:35, , 23F
BP被挖腳這麼多也是有點水準才會被挖
01/27 15:35, 23F

01/27 15:35, , 24F
BA最近有誰被挖得?
01/27 15:35, 24F

01/27 15:36, , 25F
對阿 BA就是太偏tools… 說真的 Sickels的雖然沒什
01/27 15:36, 25F

01/27 15:36, , 26F
麼特色 但他的排名個人認為反而是最公正的
01/27 15:36, 26F

01/27 15:37, , 27F
不知道 只知道FG那個被挖走之後今年超級慘…
01/27 15:37, 27F

01/27 15:38, , 28F
FG除了那個跑去斧頭幫的以外,它們的排名從來沒好過
01/27 15:38, 28F

01/27 15:39, , 29F
Sickels就截長補短集思廣益 他很願意聽觀眾的建議
01/27 15:39, 29F

01/27 15:40, , 30F
但他就是只有一個人 它算是願意給有成績的選手好一點的評
01/27 15:40, 30F

01/27 15:40, , 31F
價。但是我看今年排小熊的又不是這麼一回事
01/27 15:40, 31F

01/27 15:40, , 32F
說實在 也就只有那個那一年而已XD
01/27 15:40, 32F

01/27 15:41, , 33F
今年的條子都很晚 我還要等
01/27 15:41, 33F

01/27 15:42, , 34F
條子的排名應該都很好 BA喜歡TOOLS BP目前看來也是如此
01/27 15:42, 34F

01/27 15:42, , 35F
但是BP給球員的成長目標比較合理
01/27 15:42, 35F

01/27 15:43, , 36F
簡單來說我還是偏愛BP一點 我想今年應該會買Keith Law吧
01/27 15:43, 36F

01/27 15:43, , 37F
假設沒有美國鄉民提供海盜版的話 XD
01/27 15:43, 37F

01/27 15:44, , 38F
一直都沒有很喜歡Law說…
01/27 15:44, 38F

01/27 15:45, , 39F
他就講話不好聽 買他的東西會有點不爽
01/27 15:45, 39F

01/27 15:46, , 40F
但是真實情況比較貼近他的看法
01/27 15:46, 40F

01/27 15:47, , 41F
但只要是他看上眼的 絕對是捧上天
01/27 15:47, 41F

01/27 15:48, , 42F
這種球探網站都是重TOOLS 但是Keith Law覺得有某些致命缺
01/27 15:48, 42F

01/27 15:48, , 43F
可是他的偏好太明顯…真的長出來的又有多少…
01/27 15:48, 43F

01/27 15:48, , 44F
陷的新秀 會被他貶得一文不值
01/27 15:48, 44F

01/27 15:49, , 45F
問題是真正長出來的本來就不多啊....
01/27 15:49, 45F

01/27 15:49, , 46F
我認為很多網站都低估了球隊的養成能力…
01/27 15:49, 46F

01/27 15:50, , 47F
不 應該說養成能力的影響…不過 這個也不好說就是
01/27 15:50, 47F

01/27 15:50, , 48F
小聯盟來來去去 就算是教練也是如此
01/27 15:50, 48F

01/27 15:50, , 49F
太難評估了
01/27 15:50, 49F

01/27 15:59, , 50F
但對FO至少會有某些信心吧… Law的問題就是一旦認定
01/27 15:59, 50F

01/27 15:59, , 51F
了某些事情就很難去改變 多多少少蒙蔽了他的雙眼 看
01/27 15:59, 51F

01/27 15:59, , 52F
重tools沒有錯 畢竟小聯盟成績很難採重 過去BP比較好
01/27 15:59, 52F

01/27 15:59, , 53F
的地方就是他們會注意一些特殊的數據 並非全然看tool
01/27 15:59, 53F

01/27 15:59, , 54F
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01/27 15:59, 54F

01/27 19:55, , 55F
看來看去我會覺得官網的就很棒了XD 描述都很樸實沒有一堆術
01/27 19:55, 55F

01/27 19:56, , 56F
語或過度誇張的描述 除了字小以外沒什麼問題
01/27 19:56, 56F

01/28 12:16, , 57F
Jim Callis就BA流啊
01/28 12:16, 57F

01/28 12:20, , 58F
BA系統的問題...我看過被BA評兩種plus球種的投手到大聯盟
01/28 12:20, 58F

01/28 12:20, , 59F
連垃圾局數都不能消化的....
01/28 12:20, 59F

01/28 12:21, , 60F
如果BA一直覺得控球是早晚能練習的出來,太重視TOOLS那也
01/28 12:21, 60F

01/28 12:21, , 61F
是看看就好
01/28 12:21, 61F

01/28 15:36, , 62F
而且官網的排名有時讓人感到無所適從…
01/28 15:36, 62F

01/29 08:01, , 63F
官網會不定期更新內容但不更新排名 所以有時候明明後面的各
01/29 08:01, 63F

01/29 08:01, , 64F
種看好但名次就是沒上去 看起來實在很詭異
01/29 08:01, 64F

01/29 08:02, , 65F
有人看361嗎? 雖然是個小站不過主筆很認真到處看比賽 這週
01/29 08:02, 65F

01/29 08:02, , 66F
也跑去南美看冬聯 我也很喜歡這個站寫的東西
01/29 08:02, 66F

01/29 08:32, , 67F
看過 但是不喜歡 說到底就是願意分享的業餘球探…某
01/29 08:32, 67F

01/29 08:32, , 68F
些觀點實在不能認同…那些專屬特地球隊的球探網站或
01/29 08:32, 68F

01/29 08:32, , 69F
許還好一些 像條子有Rangers411就還不錯
01/29 08:32, 69F

01/29 19:31, , 70F
可是361把Robles排第100名 可能是2016年百大榜單裡最冷靜的
01/29 19:31, 70F

01/29 19:31, , 71F
好笑的是Robles沒在他的隊中十大 卻出現在年度百大XD
01/29 19:31, 71F

01/29 20:35, , 72F
對阿 但Gallo在他眼裡連百大都沾不上= =所以我看完他
01/29 20:35, 72F

01/29 20:35, , 73F
的排名就…嗯…
01/29 20:35, 73F

01/29 20:37, , 74F
我覺得真正準的是那種立志要當職業球探,很常看賽的人
01/29 20:37, 74F

01/29 20:38, , 75F
他們看得比賽會比BA還多,他們可能會看到太多的新秀
01/29 20:38, 75F

01/29 20:39, , 76F
但是只要能看到的 通常都會看很透
01/29 20:39, 76F

01/29 20:39, , 77F
^不
01/29 20:39, 77F

01/29 20:40, , 78F
在現場也能跟其他球探做交流(不過要嚴防其他球探練肖話)
01/29 20:40, 78F

01/29 20:40, , 79F
某些網站是臥虎藏龍 上個月才發生趣事
01/29 20:40, 79F

01/29 20:41, , 80F
某個人PO說他錄取小熊財務類FO的職務 想請大家給上工建議
01/29 20:41, 80F

01/29 20:42, , 81F
結果跑出一群應徵沒上的怒噓 XD
01/29 20:42, 81F

01/30 10:46, , 82F
我如果看到只會覺得那根本是來炫燿的吧www
01/30 10:46, 82F

01/30 10:46, , 83F
361百大沒Gallo也沒Espinoza是真的蠻...不過我可以理解為什
01/30 10:46, 83F

01/30 10:47, , 84F
麼361會這樣排 361主筆自己是重度FB玩家 他自己認為他的讀
01/30 10:47, 84F

01/30 10:48, , 85F
者會因為他的排名影響dynasty league運作 所以像Gallo這樣
01/30 10:48, 85F

01/30 10:49, , 86F
只有很噁心的power但沒打擊率也沒盜壘能力的新秀在他的排名
01/30 10:49, 86F

01/30 10:49, , 87F
就不會太好看 Espinoza跟Robles這種則是太raw風險太高
01/30 10:49, 87F

01/30 10:50, , 88F
當然他的這種排法會有爭議 因為跟real baseball差距太大
01/30 10:50, 88F

01/30 11:52, , 89F
Gallo其實是聰明的跑者 然後他退出的理由是因為認為G
01/30 11:52, 89F

01/30 11:52, , 90F
allo的模板就是Russell Branyan...
01/30 11:52, 90F

01/30 13:43, , 91F
然後諷刺的是 他把Matt Olson排在第62名
01/30 13:43, 91F

01/30 19:49, , 92F
如果說Branyan是地板還多少講得過去 天花板就有點過分了XD
01/30 19:49, 92F

01/30 20:34, , 93F
看看Mike Olt
01/30 20:34, 93F

01/30 20:40, , 94F
這種全有全無型的打者風險太大了
01/30 20:40, 94F

01/31 00:28, , 95F
說真的 Gallo只要有個.200左右的打率 整季打個20-30H
01/31 00:28, 95F

01/31 00:28, , 96F
R根本不是問題 他跟那些有大量swing-miss的球員最大
01/31 00:28, 96F

01/31 00:28, , 97F
的不同就是他的power grade不是65不是70 而是紮紮實
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01/31 00:28, , 98F
實的80
01/31 00:28, 98F
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