[轉錄]Can't compare Kobe and MJ

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板] 作者: young23 (復原) 看板: NBA 標題: Can't compare Kobe and MJ 時間: Wed Jan 25 11:30:56 2006 Can't Compare Kobe and MJ Written by Scottie Pippen In the era when Michael played, it was a physical game. Defense was promoted. Guys took pride in it. Today defense is no longer a part of the game. Guys are driving to the basket. There are rules where you can't step in front of them. To me, it is taking away from the game seeing a guy like Tony Parker taking advantage of the rules. He is shooting 55 percent from the field. That says something about the game itself. In the history of the NBA, I'm sure a point guard has never led the league in field goal percentage. It's a different game now. It's really not about being tough and physical because the NBA isn't a physical game anymore. When you talk about how the Knicks and Bulls used to battle in the early '90s, the Oakleys, and Pat Ewings, the Masons, and how they would have the ability to use their hands to put you in a trap position. There is no way you can even triple team a guy now and stop him. Any contact is a foul. I can't compare the two players because I see it as two different games. If I'm guarding Kobe Bryant in today's game, I couldn't be the defender I was known as. The defensive rules, the hand checking, the ability to make contact on a guy in certain areas, the ability to come over in the lane to stop guys from getting to the basket, that's all been taken away from the game. There is no contact up on the floor. The way I played Magic Johnson in the '91 Finals, I would have fouled out the first time down court. To compare how someone would have played Michael Jordan, Chuck Daly would send someone to wear him down. Even though he may get 30 or 40 points, they're going to be a hard 30 points. But in today's game, you can't put that physical wear and tear on a guy. It's a free ball type of game. If you are shooting it well, you can score 80, as you've seen because you are going to get to the foul line. Officials have very quick whistles now because they're promoting scoring. Let's not forget, three years ago, this league was trying to figure out how they could get the scoring back up, how they could drive the fans back into loving the game, and this is what they were building on. They changed the field of rules. Those rules are huge in the game today. They benefit the perimeter guy. Back in the day, you may get one guy to score 40 points in a month. When Michael Jordan scored 40, it was all over the front page of a newspaper. Now you can pretty much have 40 points at halftime. Until the league went and changed the rules and tried to get some of that bully ball out, you couldn't come out and perform like that every night. The game was too physical. You were too sore the next day and you were just tired and physically worn down. The game seems so fun and free now. Guys are making a living just standing out there shooting jumpers. If you want to say that Kobe could get 100, I would say that Michael could get 100. If Kobe could get 81, I think Michael could get 100 in today's game. I think the psychological style that Michael was able to master in the game, puts him far beyond Kobe. But Kobe's youthfulness has put him in a position where it looks like he is overtaking Michael. Kobe has 10 years in this league. That is a lot of experience to have and still be a very youthful player. I would love to see what would have happened the other night if the rules had been the same as in past years. Kobe is as close to being like Mike as anybody, but you can't make the comparisons anymore. Tracy McGrady can probably, from a numbers standpoint, put up the numbers Michael Jordan put up. He has that type of ability. Dirk Nowitzki can put up those kinds of numbers. The game is built for those guys to put those shots up. If they get touched, they get to the foul line. I would say Kobe is the most polished of all of them as far as being able to handle the ball and create his own shot and opportunity. But this is what the game is going to turn into. Guys are going to start to score 40 points regularly. It may become an average. I don't think Kobe will get 100. What he did is what like Wilt did, a once in a lifetime experience. Given the fact that he shot a heck of a percentage it could have been better, but I don't think he still could have gotten to 100. It would almost have to be perfect and the game would have to go to overtime. I think a lot of things would have to come into play for him to get that. With that said, I am sure Phil doesn't want to coach that type of game. It's not his style. I don't expect it to happen again. Phil will probably do everything in his power to make sure it doesn't. I don't think Phil is going to try to promote what Kobe has done more than anything because he has damaged his whole team. You just scored 81 points. Do you need your teammates? Are they going to step up when you need them or are you going to continue to pound them like you've been doing and be selfish just to get some individual accolades? From a leadership perspective I think Kobe has taken a step back. Look at what he has to live up to now. You just scored 81 points. If you scored 81 points, your team should pretty much go out and win at least 75 percent of their games the rest of the year. Is that fair to say? You just compared yourself to Wilt. Can you go out with your team and do that or are you just going to go out and score tons of points every night? Are you going to get back to the point where you are shooting a lot of shots and you're teammates are not shooting and you're losing? Right now, Kobe has willed the Lakers to a 22-19 record. It will be interesting to see what happens the rest of the way. 相信這幾天以來,Kobe迷平時鬱卒的心情已經徹底得到出口,或許是該反思一下, 其他非Kobe迷的觀點。這篇Scottie Pippen的文章,其實某種程度上很接近monmo大 前幾天寫的文章,很遺憾的是還是有一些Kobe迷不能理性看待,在下面噓了一堆文 甚至有人拿民生報蔡裕隆的觀點作為後盾用不好的語氣回文。 那位PO文的大大或許你可以看看Scottie Pippen的觀點,他應該不比民生報的蔡裕隆差吧? PO這篇文章也不是用來挑釁Kobe迷,只是用來告訴你們,為什麼很多老球迷會認為 現在防守不如以前,特別是本季為何很多perimeter shooter因規則受惠, 文章不難看懂,十分淺顯易懂,畢竟Pippen也不是啥大文豪,修辭可能比防守還難。 如果有興趣的大大可以出來翻譯一下... 基本上,我個人是站在贊成這篇文章的觀點。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 210.64.230.129

01/25 11:33,
Pippen這篇文章算是非常言之有物,站在規則和強度去比較。
01/25 11:33

01/25 11:34,
先不論是否公允,但其中觀點確實可以深思。
01/25 11:34

01/25 11:36,
要戰的人找Pippen msn:ScottiePippen33@hotmail.com
01/25 11:36

01/25 11:40,
瞎米?Pippen的MSN?
01/25 11:40

01/25 11:40,
連MSN都有XD
01/25 11:40

01/25 11:41,
我真的....真的可以用MSN跟他聊天嗎?
01/25 11:41

01/25 11:42,
Pippen的文章寫得好簡單啊!
01/25 11:42

01/25 11:41,
Pip這篇寫的很好,從頭到尾看完 not bad~~
01/25 11:41

01/25 11:43,
靠真的假的...可以加Pippen嗎 @@"""""
01/25 11:43

01/25 11:43,
真的可以跟PIP聊天嗎?? 我有這個榮幸嗎?? XD
01/25 11:43

01/25 11:44,
真的假的 太神奇了吧Orz.....
01/25 11:44

01/25 11:44,
寫得很好阿
01/25 11:44

01/25 11:45,
哈哈 一樓的超酷的XD要戰的請找pip
01/25 11:45

01/25 11:46,
01/25 11:46

01/25 11:46,
推薦這篇文章
01/25 11:46

01/25 11:48,
真的假的 他的msn????
01/25 11:48

01/25 11:49,
推"修辭可能比防守還難"XD 再推MSN
01/25 11:49

01/25 11:49,
么壽...我可以跟他老婆玩視訊嘛?
01/25 11:49

01/25 11:51,
大推!!!
01/25 11:51

01/25 11:57,
一樓的原po你可以更豪洨一點...
01/25 11:57

01/25 11:59,
他的比較並不公平 我認為現在防守強度不比以往差
01/25 11:59

01/25 11:59,
推msn ~~~ 可以和他老婆玩視訊嗎?
01/25 11:59

01/25 12:00,
應該是說肢體碰撞有差...現在摸一下就犯規XD
01/25 12:00

01/25 12:01,
覺得不公平可以寫一篇文章反駁Pippen的論點 好文多多益善
01/25 12:01

01/25 12:02,
假裝中立~不比較~其實心裡還是有個底~處處在比較
01/25 12:02

01/25 12:02,
kb那天的81分跟防守者有關係,不如說是他太準了
01/25 12:02

01/25 12:02,
不過怎麼樣說都會有人覺得主觀~所以還是不要比得好
01/25 12:02

01/25 12:02,
拜託 誰跟你假中立了 都說我站在Pippen這篇文章的觀點了
01/25 12:02

01/25 12:02,
淚推90年代防守的代名詞Pip T___T
01/25 12:02

01/25 12:03,
都說不要比了~可以噓PIPPEN嗎?
01/25 12:03

01/25 12:03,
通常那種距離的假晃跳投本來就有不穩定性 因為比賽的跑
01/25 12:03

01/25 12:03,
我之前文章也提過我不是Kobe迷 難道不能理性一點嗎?
01/25 12:03

01/25 12:04,
原PO~我不是說你啦~我是說PIPPEN~(馬的~好像我跟他很熟)
01/25 12:04

01/25 12:04,
動本來就會累 腳力不足讓跳投不穩定 但那天他都進了
01/25 12:04

01/25 12:05,
要噓Pippen可以 不過請拿出論點來才站得住腳喔~
01/25 12:05

01/25 12:07,
噗~我的論點是...前面還在比的都被噓了...haha...
01/25 12:07

01/25 12:08,
我們可不可以推一個英文比較好的人去跟Pippen聊
01/25 12:08

01/25 12:09,
這篇雖然是cant compare~可是還是偷偷在比
01/25 12:09

01/25 12:09,
好酷哦,Pip 的 MSN...XD 不過她應該會拒絕把我加入吧..
01/25 12:09

01/25 12:10,
窩英文不太好..
01/25 12:10

01/25 12:10,
我還有加過 eddie-jones@hotmail.com eddiejones6@gmail
01/25 12:10

01/25 12:11,
我猜這兩個 EJ 應該都是偽物吧,不過加了也沒聊天過...
01/25 12:11

01/25 12:12,
可不可以傳訊給Pippen說他的老婆正翻了......>///<
01/25 12:12

01/25 12:15,
young23 可不是kb迷 我可以作證 :)
01/25 12:15

01/25 12:23,
MSN是真的還假的啊...(<-完全模糊焦點的鄉民)
01/25 12:23
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