[NFL!] Pats trade Chandler Jones to Cards~

看板NFL作者 (Socratic Machine Gun)時間10年前 (2016/03/16 06:08), 10年前編輯推噓27(27推 0噓 70→)
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Cardinals acquired DE/OLB Chandler Jones from the Patriots in exchange for OG Jonathan Cooper and the No. 61 overall pick of the draft. //// Pats 把聯盟頂尖的 pass rusher Chandler Jones 交易到 Cards.. Cardinals 也進入 win now mode 了... -- Sometimes I Go Commando -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 171.65.77.249 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NFL/M.1458079680.A.F38.html
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03/16 06:08, , 1F
希望 Arizona 的大麻呼起來副作用會小一點..
03/16 06:08, 1F
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03/16 06:35, , 2F
哇喔,Patriots幫我鳥補了個大洞,當然希望腦子不要秀逗
03/16 06:35, 2F
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03/16 07:06, , 3F
明年球季還會遇到...
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03/16 07:21, , 4F
呼麻不會看到鬼吧 他吸的是合成大麻
03/16 07:21, 4F
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03/16 08:28, , 5F
ARZ擒殺的能力是弱了一點，看了今年野馬對付Newton那樣
03/16 08:28, 5F
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03/16 08:29, , 6F
現在好的Pass Rusher應該都會非常搶手。而且國西也要跟
03/16 08:29, 6F
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03/16 08:30, , 7F
RW3對打，這個補強確實還可以（但希望場外能管得住）
03/16 08:30, 7F
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03/16 08:42, , 8F
而且那個好的pass rusher還必須放在右側 跟黑豹的RT Remm
03/16 08:42, 8F
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03/16 08:42, , 9F
ers對決（然後打爆他）
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03/16 08:43, , 10F
我認為黑豹如果要對付野馬這種擒殺方式 有必要在今年首
03/16 08:43, 10F
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03/16 08:43, , 11F
輪選一個LT 然後把Oher移到RT
03/16 08:43, 11F
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03/16 08:44, , 12F
Oher是個不太好的LT 但生涯打RT的成績還蠻亮眼的
03/16 08:44, 12F
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03/16 08:45, , 13F
至於Remmers嘛 增重20磅改打G吧 如果不想害球隊拿不到冠
03/16 08:45, 13F
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03/16 08:45, , 14F
軍的話
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03/16 08:46, , 15F
雖然黑豹能跑能傳 但他們習慣用跑來做set play 有點是開
03/16 08:46, 15F
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03/16 08:46, , 16F
路先鋒的概念 接著再讓傳球來大肆攻擊
03/16 08:46, 16F
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03/16 08:47, , 17F
超人作為一個純傳球者仍然和TB等人有差距 所以他還沒辦法
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03/16 08:47, , 18F
只靠傳球打垮對手防線
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03/16 09:53, , 19F
Pats 簽了 Chris Long
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03/16 10:52, , 20F
Long is a good signing... Cards offer Mathis 2yr deal
03/16 10:52, 20F
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03/16 10:58, , 21F
野馬的明星OG組合大概要完全拆散了
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03/16 11:00, , 22F
不過沒關係 目前要上先發的Max Garcia有下一個明星的潛力
03/16 11:00, 22F
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03/16 11:00, , 23F
如果今年選秀能挑到Joshua Garnett 那接下來五年就安心
03/16 11:00, 23F
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03/16 11:00, , 24F
啦
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03/16 11:02, , 25F
Clady's restructure still has no progress.........It
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03/16 11:02, , 26F
was him who announced that he would be "eager" to ta
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ke pay cut
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03/16 14:02, , 28F
Push
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03/16 16:42, , 29F
還想買jones的球衣說...
03/16 16:42, 29F
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03/16 20:44, , 30F
(看標題)靠, 賣錢瓊？ (看完內容)讚，BB幹得好！
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03/17 01:27, , 31F
Richard Seymore 當初可以換到 OAK 的第一輪籤 那比較搶
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03/17 07:25, , 32F
Martellus Bennett trades to PATs...
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03/17 07:46, , 33F
Pats also signed RB Donald Brown today
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03/17 07:47, , 34F
Like this Bennett trade... Looks like Pats are ready
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03/17 07:48, , 35F
to bring back multi-TEs pacakge next season...
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03/17 07:49, , 36F
Cardinals inked Evan Mathis for 6m/1yr ~ Broncos lost
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03/17 07:50, , 37F
another SB-Champ component.
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03/17 08:18, , 38F
But the Pats still need to enhance their guards and c
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enter
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03/17 08:18, , 40F
I think Solder+Vollmer would be a solid tackle combin
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ation
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03/17 08:19, , 42F
In case someone falls down during season, it's also n
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ecessary to draft a swing tackle
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03/17 09:51, , 44F
Cards all in ing
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03/17 10:02, , 45F
瞬間都是我雀跟愛國者新聞
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03/17 10:16, , 46F
Still need more pass rushers
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Jones will transfer to OLB So need upgrades for DE
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03/17 12:04, , 48F
當年Warmack, Cooper是難得一見的top 10 pure guard
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03/17 12:04, , 49F
prospect.看起來都發展的不大好...
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03/17 13:30, , 50F
Cooper第一年沒打半場就受傷了,今年開始扛RG還扛得有
03/17 13:30, 50F
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03/17 13:30, , 51F
扛得還行,但不幸後來又受傷了,總而言之,Top10 pick沒打
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03/17 13:31, , 52F
出來,紅雀不願燒錢在他身上,寧可拿Jones來租用個一年
03/17 13:31, 52F
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03/17 13:35, , 53F
就看 OL guru Dante Scarnecchia 能不能救他吧.. 號稱今年
03/17 13:35, 53F
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03/17 13:36, , 54F
季後 the best signing in AFC east...
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03/17 13:36, , 55F
喔 我是說 Dante Scarnecchia ...
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03/17 13:40, , 56F
紅鳥原本還想把Cooper轉C
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03/17 13:48, , 57F
Chandler Jones 是稀有財 希望紅雀好好把握利用
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03/17 15:38, , 58F
ARZ現在是一個梭哈的狀態 Fitz Plamer 兩個人拿冠軍最好
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03/17 15:38, , 59F
的機會就這兩年了
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03/17 15:40, , 60F
運氣不好 同區有SEA在 他們還必須擔心國西王座安穩與否
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03/17 15:40, , 61F
不像CAR在國南大概五年內沒對手
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03/17 15:41, , 62F
不過SEA目前進攻鋒線還在弱化中 Jones的價值會有更大發
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揮
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03/17 15:44, , 64F
你們說的那個Cooper有可能是不適合Zone blocking NE打
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的是Power scheme 說不定那才是他的強項
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BB 現在正在瘋狂收集沒人要的 first rounder...
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OG Jon Cooper, DE Chris Long, RB Don Brown.. 剛剛又收了
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bears 的 LB Shea McClellin ... 都是在原隊沒愛的球員
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看能打出幾個吧...
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※ 編輯: oplz (68.65.165.126), 03/17/2016 16:01:41
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03/17 16:48, , 70F
Cooper明明就不差 14場比賽9場先發 僅丟掉一次擒殺
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犯規三個而已
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03/17 16:49, , 72F
剛剛查了一下資料
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Long曾完成兩次單季10擒殺 可以好好期待他恢復過往表現
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03/18 05:37, , 74F
CJ2000 Back To Arizona !!!!!!
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03/18 06:37, , 75F
fins 連被打槍兩次...
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03/21 03:37, , 76F
Interesting... Cards offocially listed Chandler Jones
03/21 03:37, 76F
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03/21 03:38, , 77F
as OLB, not DE... That differs 1.6m in tag price...
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03/21 03:39, , 78F
tricky tricks.
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03/21 07:39, , 79F
Jones的打法是所謂edge rusher 4-3中擺DE 3-4就是OLB
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03/21 07:44, , 80F
yes, but this will change his tag price which is tricky
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and Jones' agent would not be happy about this listing.
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03/21 08:23, , 82F
他大概要繳出10個擒殺外加打爆超人（他們這季會交手）才
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會被tag吧XDD
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03/21 08:24, , 84F
ARZ今年應該會用首輪挑一個擒殺強的OLB跟他搭配
03/21 08:24, 84F
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03/21 08:26, , 85F
不光是牽制超人 也能同時打到SEA的痛（SEA的OL損失Okung
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後已經變成旋轉門等級了）
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03/21 08:31, , 87F
Cards 不會願意 Jones 最後變成 1-yr rental.. 加上是聯盟
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03/21 08:32, , 88F
頂級稀有財 如果 extension 搞不定 大概就會被 tag.
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03/21 10:36, , 89F
只要不吸毒 一切好說
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03/21 10:51, , 90F
說到edge rusher這種稀有財......NE怎麼在Collins Highto
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03/21 10:52, , 91F
wee Jones三人中選擇前兩人呢......難道只是因為Jones有
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03/21 10:52, , 92F
DE price tag比較高是嗎
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03/21 11:21, , 93F
因為 Pats DE 位置深度最好 大概已經決定明年不會優先續約
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Jones.. 所以早一年把 Jones 交易掉..反正明年留不住
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今年的價碼 DE tag 比 LB 高 1.6m.
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Pats DE 有 Ninkovich & Sheard ..替補有去年第三輪 Grissom
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之前 Jones 受傷沒上場時也撐過來了
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