[外絮] 公牛球員跟球員協會討論Boylen極端的練兵

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來源: The Bleacher Report 網址: https://tinyurl.com/yc6bb7dv Bulls Players Went to NBPA to Discuss Jim Boylen's 'Extreme Tactics' 公牛球員跟球員協會討論有關Jim Boylen's極端的訓練方式 Chicago Bulls players have reportedly taken action in response to the demands made of them by head coach Jim Boylen. 據報導公牛球員對於教練Jim Boylen對他們的要求採取行動。 Yahoo Sports' Vincent Goodwill and Chris Haynes reported Monday that Bulls players reached out to the National Basketball Players Association regarding what they believed were "extreme tactics" used by Boylen: 雅虎運動記者Vincent Goodwill跟Chris Haynes在星期一時報導,公牛球員已經跟球員協 會聯絡,討論有關他們認為Boylen"極端"的訓練: "After taking the helm from fired coach Fred Hoiberg on Monday, Boylen held three two-and-a-half-hour practices in his first week that included extra wind sprints and players doing military-style pushups. Calling for another lengthy practice after the back-to-back led to a near-mutiny and caused the players to reach out to the union, sources said." 「消息來源說,星期一Boylen接掌了原教練Fred Hoiberg的位置,他在第一周便做了三個 2.5小時的訓練,包括額外的全力衝刺跑步以及要求球員做部隊風的伏地挺身。而在背對背 的比賽過後又召集了另外的長訓練,導致了球員跡近反叛的舉動,以及球員去跟工會聯 絡。」 The Bulls fired Hoiberg on Dec. 3 and appointed Boylen as the head coach for the remainder of the season. In just a week, things have dissolved into chaos. 公牛在12/3開除了Hoiberg,而後指定Boylen接掌總教練一職到本季結束。而僅僅一周,情 況就變成一團混亂。 The Boston Celtics handed the Bulls a 133-77 defeat on Saturday at United Center. A day later, The Athletic's Darnell Mayberry reported Chicago was on "the brink of a full-blown mutiny." 星期六的時候,青賽以133-77在公牛球場擊敗公牛。一天後,Athletic記者Darnell Mayberry就報導了公牛球員已經"接近全面反叛"。 Players reportedly took exception to the fact that Boylen had scheduled a practice for Sunday, per Goodwill and Haynes. In response, they considered multiple alternatives, including a boycott of the practice and a walkout Sunday right after they arrived at the team's practice facility. 據記者Goodwill跟Haynes,公牛球員對於Boylen在星期六輸球後隔天星期天所排定的訓練 採取反抗。他們考慮過數種方式,包括抵制練習或是在星期天抵達球隊練習場館後直接離 開等。 Ultimately, the Bulls held a pair of meetings Sunday, the first of which was for players only and the latter of which involved the coaches as well, according to Mayberry. 根據Mayberry,最後,公牛球團在星期天開了兩個會,第一個會是只有球員參加,第二個 會是讓教練團們也一起。 Boylen later told reporters he had hoped the Bulls would have a full practice Sunday but enjoyed a "productive day" nonetheless. Boylen之後跟記者說他原本希望球員們可以在星期天有個完整的練習,但是無論如何,他 還是享受了"很有收穫的一天"。 On Monday, he took issue with the notion the players didn't want to practice, per NBC Sports Chicago: 星期一的時候,他對於球員不想練習的說法並不同意並表示了意見: 影片支援: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1072226325325365248 Not only would it appear Boylen's style isn't going to work with the Bulls, but the team also may have already reached a breaking point. 不僅Boylen帶兵的方式在公牛球員上可能走不通,整個隊伍可能已經到達了崩解的地步。 According to Goodwill and Haynes, Boylen leaned on the two seasons he spent with the San Antonio Spurs as justification for his handling of the team. 根據Goodwill跟Haynes,Boylen用他在馬刺兩季的經驗來辯護他帶領球隊的方式。 Bulls players quickly made it clear they weren't going to put up with that: "Boylen repeatedly referenced his days on the San Antonio Spurs staff and instances in which coach Gregg Popovich pulled all five players off the floor to send a message, sources said. A player responded, sources said, telling Boylen in essence that they aren't the Spurs and, more importantly, he isn't Popovich." 但是公牛球員們很快就表示他們將不會忍受這樣的方式: 「消息來源說,Boylen一直在說他之前在馬刺教練團的日子,也舉例說馬刺教練波總也會 把場上五人一次換下來讓球員知道他的想法。但是,一位球員對Boylen說,他們不是馬 刺,而且更重要的,他不是波總。」 Goodwill and Haynes interviewed Charlotte Hornets guard Tony Parker, who has plenty of experience working with Popovich in San Antonio, and he said that mimicking Popovich only works when you've built up the necessary trust with everybody involved. Goodwill跟Hayenes訪問了跟波總有過充分相處經驗的黃蜂後衛Tony Parker,他說模仿波 總的帶兵方式,必須要跟每個人建立了足夠的信任感之後才會成功。 Boylen didn't have that kind of relationship with his players in Chicago before adopting his stern approach, and the players' turning to the NBPA illustrates how fraught the dynamic has already become. Boylen在採用嚴格方式帶兵前並沒有跟球員建立起那樣的關係,而球員跟球員協會求助顯 示了雙方互動關係目前有多緊張。 -- 準備要捲鋪蓋了嗎? -- 標題 [公告] NBA 板 開始舉辦樂透! 4、雙十 = 兩隊四節打完107比107進入延長賽

10/10 00:17,
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10/10 00:34,
開4我直接自殺
10/10 00:34
開獎結果: 雙十

10/10 21:18,
不自殺 想買樂透惹
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12/11 10:29, 5年前 , 1F
去跟老闆講
12/11 10:29, 1F

12/11 10:29, 5年前 , 2F
HBL喔 美國沒有人這樣練球吧XDDD 鐵血松山?
12/11 10:29, 2F

12/11 10:29, 5年前 , 3F
這季場下筆場上精采多了
12/11 10:29, 3F

12/11 10:30, 5年前 , 4F
磨練一個坦隊?
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12/11 10:30, 5年前 , 5F
沒那個趴數不要亂學波波
12/11 10:30, 5F

12/11 10:30, 5年前 , 6F
如果文中所說的訓練內容跟時間是真的 那教練下課吧
12/11 10:30, 6F

12/11 10:30, 5年前 , 7F
不用換,坦的光明正大
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12/11 10:30, 5年前 , 8F
從超鬆到超嚴,不適應也正常
12/11 10:30, 8F

12/11 10:31, 5年前 , 9F
歸國學成空降主管?
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12/11 10:31, 5年前 , 10F
5冠 BJ4
12/11 10:31, 10F

12/11 10:31, 5年前 , 11F
教練 魚住吐了
12/11 10:31, 11F

12/11 10:31, 5年前 , 12F
所以故意輸56分想逼走他嗎
12/11 10:31, 12F

12/11 10:31, 5年前 , 13F
b2b應該需要休息一下吧 沒適當的休息很容易受傷
12/11 10:31, 13F

12/11 10:31, 5年前 , 14F
黃萬隆?
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12/11 10:32, 5年前 , 15F
全隊叛亂 教練出怪聲
12/11 10:32, 15F

12/11 10:33, 5年前 , 16F
記者先去訪問馬刺有沒有集體伏地挺身
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12/11 10:33, 5年前 , 17F
你各位啊
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12/11 10:34, 5年前 , 18F
沒有的話教練直接下去吧
12/11 10:34, 18F

12/11 10:34, 5年前 , 19F
走了一個鐵血thibs 到頭來還是來一個更操的
12/11 10:34, 19F

12/11 10:34, 5年前 , 20F
Kobe:如果訓練還沒比賽激烈,你就是在做錯的事
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12/11 10:35, 5年前 , 21F
芝加哥豐玉
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12/11 10:35, 5年前 , 22F
又是馬刺經驗
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12/11 10:36, 5年前 , 23F
老席是場上操你 現在來一個場下操更兇的
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12/11 10:36, 5年前 , 24F
更重要的是,你不是波總XDDDDD
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12/11 10:36, 5年前 , 25F
"更重要的,他不是波總"Q.Q
12/11 10:36, 25F

12/11 10:37, 5年前 , 26F
這個內容2k裡有嗎 全隊叛變
12/11 10:37, 26F

12/11 10:37, 5年前 , 27F
錫箔:說我操??
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12/11 10:37, 5年前 , 28F
魚住吐了XDDDDD
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12/11 10:39, 5年前 , 29F
NBA球員一旦操受傷,可能噴幾百萬美金甚至斷送職涯
12/11 10:39, 29F

12/11 10:40, 5年前 , 30F
NBA趙括
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12/11 10:41, 5年前 , 31F
2018氣氛年?
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12/11 10:41, 5年前 , 32F
不要扶他
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12/11 10:42, 5年前 , 33F
坦隊管教太嚴格影響狀元?
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12/11 10:42, 5年前 , 34F
還當自己是助教嗎? 不然總教練會自己帶體能盯全隊做
12/11 10:42, 34F
還有 87 則推文
12/11 11:33, 5年前 , 122F
NBA球員想練體能 各種高價器材都不會缺啊
12/11 11:33, 122F

12/11 11:33, 5年前 , 123F
要這群球員做伏地挺身真的就只是在羞辱人而已
12/11 11:33, 123F

12/11 11:34, 5年前 , 124F
自以為長得像金霸王wilson Fisk就可以羞辱球員ㄏㄏ
12/11 11:34, 124F

12/11 11:35, 5年前 , 125F
身體健康重要,過度訓練操過頭身心疲勞受傷機率大增
12/11 11:35, 125F

12/11 11:36, 5年前 , 126F
有可能一季換兩個總a嗎 我們看下去
12/11 11:36, 126F

12/11 11:36, 5年前 , 127F
美國運動科學這麼進步,要怎麼練他們自己知道效果
12/11 11:36, 127F

12/11 11:37, 5年前 , 128F
一個受傷,整個球季和訓練成本整個就去了,全部重新
12/11 11:37, 128F

12/11 11:40, 5年前 , 129F
一定有人會嘴年輕人爛草莓
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12/11 11:41, 5年前 , 130F
伏地挺身做太多到時候手腕受傷怎辦= =
12/11 11:41, 130F

12/11 11:42, 5年前 , 131F
不要扶他XDDDDDDD
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12/11 11:42, 5年前 , 132F
噓明顯,伏地挺身哪來的問題?一堆訓練營影片球員
12/11 11:42, 132F

12/11 11:42, 5年前 , 133F
不是都在伏地挺身和折返跑?訓練方式不夠科學無限
12/11 11:42, 133F

12/11 11:42, 5年前 , 134F
上綱到連伏地挺身都要批評就太扯了
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12/11 11:53, 5年前 , 135F
大概看了卡特教頭,想來好好大幹一場...
12/11 11:53, 135F

12/11 11:55, 5年前 , 136F
學生籃球?
12/11 11:55, 136F

12/11 11:58, 5年前 , 137F
怕你們輸球沒藉口先耗盡你們的體力囉
12/11 11:58, 137F

12/11 12:01, 5年前 , 138F
做什麼伏地挺身 不會臥推
12/11 12:01, 138F

12/11 12:06, 5年前 , 139F
幹嘛理葉 就刷存在感而已
12/11 12:06, 139F

12/11 12:13, 5年前 , 140F
沒先搏感情就來硬的,也得自己控得住才行
12/11 12:13, 140F

12/11 12:14, 5年前 , 141F
部隊風不會是一下二上吧XD 那被反彈根本自找的
12/11 12:14, 141F

12/11 12:16, 5年前 , 142F
這教練感覺沒救 才幾天變這樣
12/11 12:16, 142F

12/11 12:16, 5年前 , 143F
趴數不夠,新上任就操老兵肯定被弄翻啊
12/11 12:16, 143F

12/11 12:16, 5年前 , 144F
沒想到一下二上,真是的話也太扯 XDD
12/11 12:16, 144F

12/11 12:24, 5年前 , 145F
年薪幾百萬的 還在那邊部隊伏地挺身真的莫名其妙 哪
12/11 12:24, 145F

12/11 12:24, 5年前 , 146F
個人沒有自己的體能管理師? 每個人多做幾下體能會
12/11 12:24, 146F

12/11 12:24, 5年前 , 147F
變好?
12/11 12:24, 147F

12/11 12:33, 5年前 , 148F
哈哈哈哈 魚住吐了 這句有梗XDD
12/11 12:33, 148F

12/11 12:44, 5年前 , 149F
魚住吐了XDD
12/11 12:44, 149F

12/11 12:51, 5年前 , 150F
卡特教頭!
12/11 12:51, 150F

12/11 12:54, 5年前 , 151F
美國阿三?
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12/11 12:58, 5年前 , 152F
教練 魚住吐了!!!
12/11 12:58, 152F

12/11 13:20, 5年前 , 153F
Pop不在季中操球員的,賽季中他都馬只有投籃練習
12/11 13:20, 153F

12/11 13:33, 5年前 , 154F
棒棒:年輕人就是年輕人...
12/11 13:33, 154F

12/11 13:44, 5年前 , 155F
標準松山式的練法 XDD
12/11 13:44, 155F

12/11 13:54, 5年前 , 156F
魚住 你沒事吧 不要扶他
12/11 13:54, 156F

12/11 14:03, 5年前 , 157F
Byron Scott 以前也花大部分時間再練跑步,這兩人同
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12/11 14:03, 5年前 , 158F
系列的?
12/11 14:03, 158F

12/11 20:25, 5年前 , 159F
伏地挺身可以做,但由體能教練安排而不是總教練
12/11 20:25, 159F

12/12 02:21, 5年前 , 160F
標準軍中新任連長搞得全連雞飛狗跳
12/12 02:21, 160F

12/12 04:51, 5年前 , 161F
我們要用快跟狠稱霸全國
12/12 04:51, 161F
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