[外絮] Kerr談到勇士與騎士的對抗

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來源:The Mercury News 網址: https://tinyurl.com/ycrvytkf Steve Kerr: “Our rivalry with Cleveland is the analogy of the modern NBA” Kerr: 與騎士的對抗代表了現在的NBA CLEVELAND – The joy of winning left the Warriors both inspired and hungry to experience again. The agony of defeat left some on the Warriors eager to forget the feeling, while others wanting to latch on to it for motivation. 贏球的喜悅會鼓舞勇士球員,迫切的想要再贏一次;輸球的沮喪讓一些球員只想忘記那感 覺,不過另外一部分的球員卻想把輸球轉化成贏球的動機。 Through those emotional swings, the Warriors (35-9) enter a regular-season matchup against the Cleveland Cavaliers (26-16) on Monday aware they are experiencing something special. The Warriors and Cavaliers have met in the NBA Finals for three consecutive years, something that did not happen even in the universally revered Lakers-Celtics rivalry that spanned three different eras. And as Warriors guard Klay Thompson said, “I’d be shocked if we didn’ t do it again.” 經過這樣情緒的起伏,勇士目前戰績35-9,將會在星期一對上騎士。勇騎過去三季打了三 次總冠軍賽,即使上個世紀的湖人-賽爾提克對決都沒發生過這樣的情形。KT說,「如果我 們沒再跟騎士再打一次總冠軍賽,我會很震驚。」 “We just want to kick each other’s ass,” Warriors coach Steve Kerr said. “ There’s no sort of love lost. That’s how it should be. We should be trying to beat each other.” 「我們只想好好修理對方,」教練Kerr說。「這並不代表沒有愛,只是這就是比賽,我們 只是想打敗對方。」 That mentality played out in different ways. As Thompson summed up, “I’ve experienced the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. You learn from both. ” 心理上的調適大家都不一樣,就像KT的說法,「我可以感受到極度的高潮,但是也可以感 受到低到不能再低的低潮,這兩種感覺都可以讓你學到東西。」 The Warriors overcame a 2-1 deficit to win the 2015 NBA title in six games in what marked their first championship since 1975. Cleveland won the NBA title in 2016, allowing LeBron James to help the Cavaliers deliver the city’s first major championship in 52 years and become the first team to overcome a 3-1 deficit in NBA Finals history. Then after acquiring Kevin Durant in the 2016 offseason, the Warriors rectified the previous season’s Finals loss in five games. 2015冠軍賽,勇士克服了2-1的差距,在六戰之後拿下勇士自1975年後的第一個冠軍;而 2016年,LBJ幫騎士拿下克里夫蘭52年來的第一個冠軍,騎士也成為NBA史上第一支克服 3-1的差距拿下總冠軍的隊伍。而在2016休賽季,勇士招募了KD,也在2017總冠軍賽以五場 拿下冠軍獎盃。 “Lakers-Boston was the dominant rivalry. Our rivalry with Cleveland is the analogy of the modern NBA,” Kerr said. “It’s the same thing. You got superstars all over the floor. You’ve had three Finals meetings. You have so many games and so many people watching. It’s definitely a special feeling in the building when both teams are there.” 「湖人-波士頓是過去的世仇對決,我們現在與騎士則代表了現在這世代的對決,」Kerr 說。「情況很類似,兩邊都有明星球員,我們打了三次總冠軍,打了那麼多場眾所矚目的 比賽,在這樣的過程中自然會有奇特的感覺。」 That special feeling has produced monster ratings. 這樣奇特的感覺自然很吸睛。 The 2017 NBA Finals attracted an average of 20,840,000 viewers per game. Those numbers marked the most-watched NBA Finals in ABC history since it began televising the Finals in 2003, and it is the most-watched Finals since the Bulls-Jazz matchup in 1998 in what marked Michael Jordan’s final season in Chicago. Meanwhile, the NBA Finals in 2016 (20,225,000) and 2015 (19,939,000) sparked almost as much interest. 2017年總冠軍賽,平均每場有2084萬人觀賞,這破了ABC自2003年開始轉播的紀錄,這也是 自1998年MJ最後一季,公牛-爵士對決後,最多人看的總冠軍賽。2016年有2022.5萬, 2015年也有1993.9萬人次。 So, the Warriors-Cavaliers three-year history might hardly compare to the Lakers-Celtics rivalry that includes 12 NBA Finals appearances through a 51-year span. The Warriors and Cavaliers became a rating sensation, though, because of qualities that made the Lakers-Celtics rivalry riveting. 所以,勇騎三年的對決還遠遠比不上湖人-波士頓,他們總共在51年內在冠軍賽對決了12 次。勇騎比賽雖然很吸睛,但是因為湖人-波士頓對決的特質還是讓他們這組對決引人入 勝。 They have star power (James, Durant, Curry, Thompson, Draymond Green, Kyrie Irving). They have ejections (Curry, Green). They have key defenders (Green, Andre Iguodala). They had a head-to-head matchup that evolved through each series (Thompson-Irving). And both teams experienced both elation and sorrow. 兩邊都有明星,LBJ,KD,Curry,KT,嘴綠跟KI;有球員被逐出場過(Curry跟嘴綠),有 防守明星(嘴綠跟小AI),兩邊有一對一對決(KT與KI),兩隊都有經歷過獲勝的高潮跟輸 球的低潮。 “There’s a chance this could go for another five years. But we don’t know what LeBron’s going to do,” said Mychal Thompson, the former Showtime Lakers and father of Klay Thompson. “That’s up to LeBron after this season. If he stays, this could develop into another Lakers-Celtics rivalry. But if Lebron leaves, it’s over.” 「這樣的對決很有可能可以再持續個五年,不過我們不知道LBJ將來會怎麼做,」前湖人球 員也是KT的爸爸Mychal Thompson說。「那要看LBJ今年球季結束後的動向。若是他留在騎 士,這樣的對決或許有機會變成湖人-波士頓對決2.0;但是若是LBJ離開騎士,那就沒得比 了。」 Regardless of James’ future, Green said he already has sensed a change. When the Warriors and Cavaliers met on Christmas Day, Green sensed it “didn’t feel like we were playing against the same team.” The Cavaliers traded Irving last summer to Boston for Isaiah Thomas, who missed the first matchup because of a torn labrum in his right hip that kept him sidelined for nearly the first three months of the season. Thomas and Curry are expected to be play on Monday after both sitting out on Christmas. 即使不管LBJ的將來動向,嘴綠說他已經察覺到一些變化了。在勇騎聖誕節大賽的時候,嘴 綠覺得"好像不是在跟之前的騎士隊打球"。騎士去年把KI交易掉,換來IT,IT在聖誕大賽 因為臀部傷勢在這賽季的前三個月都沒上場。不過,在下星期一的比賽,上次都沒上場的 Curry及IT,都被認為會上場打球。 “To not see [Kyrie] out there was just weird,” Green said. “But maybe with [Thomas] playing, it’s just different because that’s another All-Star level player. But it was different the last time to me.” 「沒看到KI在球場上就是覺得怪怪的,」嘴綠說。「若是IT有上,他也是明星級球員,但 是感覺就是會不一樣,上次的對決對我來說就是不一樣。」 After all, Irving made a game-clinching 3-pointer in the Cavaliers’ Game 7 win over the Warriors in 2016. In the 2017 NBA Finals, Iriving experienced both clutch nights in Games 1 (45 points), Game 3 (38 points) and Game 4 (40 points) and inefficient performances in Games 2 (34.8 percent) and 5 (40.9 percent). 畢竟,KI在2016總冠軍賽第七戰替騎士用致勝三分球打敗了勇士,而在2017年的總冠軍 賽,KI在三場比賽表現傑出(G1 45分,G3 38分,G4 40分),但也在兩場比賽表現欠佳(G2 命中率34.8趴,G5命中率40.9趴) “He’s one of the best scoring point guards ever so there’s a reason he was playing in the Finals for three straight years,” Klay Thompson said. “ Obviously he made huge shots and is a clutch player. It was a joy to play against him for three straight years. Who knows how it turns out this year. But it was a lot of fun.” 「他是幾個傑出控球後衛又能得分的好手之一,那也是他可以連打三年總冠軍賽的理由, 」KT說。很明顯的,KI可以在重要關頭拿分,成為致勝關鍵,跟KI連續對決三年是很有樂 趣的。沒人知道今年會演變成如何,但是那三年的對決充滿樂趣。 The Warriors’ fun began in 2015, when they proved their offense centered on pace, ball movement and 3-point shooting could succeed in the playoffs. The Warriors also unexpectedly started Iguodala over center Andrew Bogut beginning in Game 4, a move that cemented Iguodala the 2015 Finals MVP partly because of his defense on James. 勇士打球的樂趣是在2015開始,他們證明了快速球的流動跟三分球可以在季後賽獲得勝 利。勇士出乎意料的在2015的冠軍賽第四戰後用小AI取代Andrew Bogut,讓小AI守LBJ, 這也是一部分小AI拿FMVP的原因。 “We didn’t know we were a championship team. We were competing for one. But we had never done it. That first one is so incredibly special,” Kerr said. “ That will always be my favorite moment in my coaching career. Nothing will ever top that.” 「我們那時候還不知道我們會是一隻冠軍隊伍,我們還在努力奮鬥成為冠軍隊。第一次成 為冠軍隊感覺真的很特別,」Kerr說。「那會是我執教生涯最喜愛的時刻,沒有其他的經 驗可以比得上它。」 Nothing will ever top the Warriors’ sorrow in squandering a 3-1 series lead to Cleveland the following year. 但是沒有任何一件事可以比隔年在3-1領先騎士卻被逆轉感覺更慘的了。 Green served a one-game suspension in Game 5 after the NBA gave him a Flagrant 1foul for striking James in the groin after James stepped over Green. The Warriors also lost in Game 6, which ended with Curry chucking his mouthpiece after fouling out in the final minute. In Game 7, James performed a chase-down block on Iguodala before Irving made a game-changing 3-pointer in the final minute. Kerr admitted, “it will always linger as the toughest loss.” 那年的第五戰,嘴綠因為LBJ跨過他身上攻擊LBJ的該邊被罰了一級惡性犯規被禁賽;第六 戰Curry最後一分鐘被罰出場後,Curry扔掉他的牙套。而第七戰,LBJ賞了小AI一個追魂 鍋,然後就是KI那記改變戰局的致勝三分球。Kerr承認,「那感覺將會縈繞很久,因為那 個失敗真的很糟。」 “I never think about Game 7 anymore, I’ve moved on,” Kerr said. “If you linger on that stuff, you can’t move on. Then in the end, as you move further away from it, it’s a game. Somebody is going to win. Somebody is going to lose. You have to have that kind of perspective.” 「我再也不想那場第七戰,我已經把它拋到腦後去了,」Kerr說。「如果腦袋還是一直想 那場比賽,就沒辦法繼續走下去。當可以慢慢脫離那思緒後,就會了解那只是一場比賽。 總是會有人贏,有人輸,大家必須有這樣的認知才對。」 Green has a different perspective. 但是嘴綠跟人家的認知就是不太一樣。 “You don’t want to lose that feeling because you never want to experience it again,” Green said. “You can never guarantee that you’ll never experience it again. But the best way you can get as close as possible to guaranteeing it is remembering that feeling and fighting so hard against it.” 「不要忘記那種感覺,這樣才會激勵自己,不要再經歷一次同樣的過程,」嘴綠說。「因 為沒法保證將來不會再發生,所以最好的方式就是把自己跟那種感覺靠的越近越好,這樣 才會讓自己記得,然後奮力打球讓這樣的經歷不會重演。」 Yet, Green maintained those feelings do not apply to what led to his Game 5 suspension. 但是,重溫那種感覺不包括那個讓嘴綠在第五戰被禁賽的部分。 “If I did play Game 5, everything is different,” Green said. “I’ll always hold that view. But what I don’t hold is the regret. I don’t regret it at all 「如果我可以打第五戰,或許一切會不同,」嘴綠說。「我會一輩子都有那種看法,但是 我不會後悔,我不是個會後悔的人。」 Why not? 為啥不是? “Because I don’t regret anything. I don’t live my life with regret,” Green said. “[Stuff] happens. You move on from it. I would never let anybody just stand over the top of me. If the same thing happened again, I’d do the same thing.” 「因為我不後悔,我從不過後悔的日子,」嘴綠說。「該來就是會來,就是繼續向前走。 我不會讓人從我身上跨過去,即使同樣的事情又發生一次,我還是會做一樣的事情。」 Regardless, the Warriors’ loss in the 2016 NBA Finals paved the way for them to acquire Durant that same summer. Nearly a year later, Durant played a pivotal role in the Warriors’ redemption. He won the NBA Finals MVP award after averaging 35.2 points on 55.6 percent shooting in 39.8 minutes per game. Durant also made the go-ahead 3-pointer with 45.3 seconds remaining that secured the Warriors a Game 3 victory over the Cleveland. 不管如何,勇士2016年的戰敗成為他們獲得KD的關鍵。隔年,KD成為勇士救贖的關鍵角 色。KD場均35.2分,命中率55.6趴,平均上場39.8分,拿下當年的FMVP。KD也在關鍵第三 戰,在終場前45.3秒投進超前3分球,讓勇士拿下那場勝利。 “It doesn’t ruin my day when I think about it. But you obviously wish it didn’t happen,” Curry said of the 2016 Finals loss. “I’m all right with those memories. It makes you better. It makes you appreciate winning more. It makes you hungrier.” 「想到2016年的輸球不會讓我壞了一天的心情,但是當然會希望那從未發生過。」Curry 說。「我現在對那些記憶已經釋懷了,那讓我成為一個更好的人,讓你更珍惜每一場獲 勝,對勝利更加渴望。」 Will the Warriors show enough hunger to face Cleveland again in the Finals? Many in NBA circles believe so. Kerr, however, has equally monitored Cleveland, Boston, Toronto, Houston and San Antonio because he considers them all potential playoff opponents that could disrupt the Warriors’ quest to repeat. Regardless of how the 2018 NBA Finals turns out, Curry said the Warriors’ NBA Finals history with the Cavaliers is “going to be up there” among the league’s top rivalries. 勇士會展現足夠的渴望,再次在總冠軍賽與騎士對決嗎? 很多圈內的人都這樣認為,但是 Kerr卻對除了騎士外,青賽,暴龍,火箭跟馬刺有同樣關注,因為他認為他們都是可能是 影響勇士衛冕的隊伍。不過不管2018總冠軍戲碼會是如何,Curry說勇騎的總冠軍對決永遠 都會NBA史上的經典對決之一。 “From a historical perspective, it’s going to be to tough to top Lakers and the Celtics and the prime of the 80’s in NBA history,” Curry said. “But we can strong arm the 21st century, and see what happens.” 「從歷史的角度來看,要超過80年代的湖人-波士頓是有難度的,」Curry說。「但是我們 可以讓現在的球隊更加堅強,然後看之後的比賽會如何。」 Regardless of what happens, the joyful and painful memories will stay forever. So much that Kerr envisioned that “in 20 years when we see each other, we’re all going to hug. When I see [Cleveland coach] Ty Lue and Steph sees LeBron, it’ll be like, ‘Wow that’s awesome.'” 不管將來會如何,贏球與輸球的記憶永存,教練Kerr想著,「在20年後當我們看到對方, 我們會互相擁抱。當我看到騎士教頭Lue或是Curry看到LBJ,出現的畫面將是,『哇!那時 候真的很爽!』」 That’s because, as Curry concluded, “these are the moments we’ll talk about for the rest of our lives.” Curry最後下結論,那是因為,「那是我們餘生都會講到的時刻。」 -- 嘴綠可以改名叫嘴不悔了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.222.1.181 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1515990611.A.F89.html

01/15 12:31, 8年前 , 1F
反觀毛巾架魯教頭表示:我們第三節就是在場上走來
01/15 12:31, 1F

01/15 12:33, 8年前 , 2F
不悔綠
01/15 12:33, 2F

01/15 12:34, 8年前 , 3F
嘴綠:沒KI的騎士根本當兒子打
01/15 12:34, 3F

01/15 12:36, 8年前 , 4F
勇士知道今年季後碰不到騎士了 已經在懷念感嘆了
01/15 12:36, 4F

01/15 12:36, 8年前 , 5F
東鳥西魔 東詹西杜
01/15 12:36, 5F

01/15 12:36, 8年前 , 6F
勇士已經開始鎖定 火箭 青賽 暴龍 為假想敵了
01/15 12:36, 6F

01/15 12:37, 8年前 , 7F
你騎..
01/15 12:37, 7F

01/15 12:37, 8年前 , 8F
#不悔
01/15 12:37, 8F

01/15 12:37, 8年前 , 9F
73勝笑話永流傳~
01/15 12:37, 9F

01/15 12:37, 8年前 , 10F
LBJ即將走下神壇 勇士的球員包括kerr 心理一定都清
01/15 12:37, 10F

01/15 12:37, 8年前 , 11F
教姆斯怎麼打籃球
01/15 12:37, 11F

01/15 12:38, 8年前 , 12F
楚 去年季後就屌虐騎士 今年騎士在出來會有收視率?
01/15 12:38, 12F

01/15 12:39, 8年前 , 13F
史上最大團笑話真的永流傳
01/15 12:39, 13F

01/15 12:40, 8年前 , 14F
騎士老闆應該也在考慮 之後球隊要如何重建了
01/15 12:40, 14F

01/15 12:40, 8年前 , 15F
不管明天比賽輸贏 就算勇士放水讓騎士贏也一樣
01/15 12:40, 15F

01/15 12:41, 8年前 , 16F
騎士在東區不再有絕對的主宰力了各方面數據很明確
01/15 12:41, 16F

01/15 12:41, 8年前 , 17F
只要LBJ出場永遠都有收視率
01/15 12:41, 17F

01/15 12:42, 8年前 , 18F
想看他衰敗的一堆人
01/15 12:42, 18F

01/15 12:42, 8年前 , 19F
LBJ去年的騎士就已經衰敗了 今年再演一樣沒人要看
01/15 12:42, 19F

01/15 12:42, 8年前 , 20F
只靠姆斯 也打不過勇士 騎士老闆也認知到這點想重建
01/15 12:42, 20F

01/15 12:43, 8年前 , 21F
大家比較想看 姆斯離開騎士去更有天賦的球隊
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01/15 12:44, 8年前 , 22F
看能不能東山再起 過兩年勇士四星解體
01/15 12:44, 22F

01/15 12:44, 8年前 , 23F
教不倦 嘴不悔
01/15 12:44, 23F

01/15 12:44, 8年前 , 24F
看好姆斯去76人或火箭~
01/15 12:44, 24F

01/15 12:44, 8年前 , 25F
去年KI還在都差點被橫掃了 今年團隊都還沒磨合成功
01/15 12:44, 25F

01/15 12:44, 8年前 , 26F
LBJ再率領 火箭 或是 湖人 回到競爭行列
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01/15 12:45, 8年前 , 27F
騎士再爛也拿過一冠了,還好吧
01/15 12:45, 27F

01/15 12:45, 8年前 , 28F
前2年真的很精彩啊,16G7最後大家都拿不了分時真的
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01/15 12:45, 8年前 , 29F
超緊張的,KD加入以後真的平衡被打破了
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01/15 12:46, 8年前 , 30F
說真的,騎士這種炒短線,到處招募組大團,一天到晚
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01/15 12:46, 8年前 , 31F
內鬥的球隊,根本不配當勇士的宿敵
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01/15 12:46, 8年前 , 32F
KI帶青賽進總冠,姆斯不知道會怎麼想
01/15 12:46, 32F

01/15 12:46, 8年前 , 33F
勇騎冠軍賽的交鋒 只能追憶了
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01/15 12:48, 8年前 , 34F
KI 我姆斯辣 過去是我不對 我想當你小弟
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01/15 12:50, 8年前 , 35F
KD組四巨頭確實太超過 姆斯在場上擋 雙巨頭場邊休息
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01/15 12:51, 8年前 , 36F
已經在宣告會拿西冠嗎?
01/15 12:51, 36F

01/15 12:52, 8年前 , 37F
LBJ+Love+IT+DW+Rose+TT+KK+JR+JC會輸勇士?
01/15 12:52, 37F

01/15 12:52, 8年前 , 38F
The 不配
01/15 12:52, 38F

01/15 12:54, 8年前 , 39F
從交易 KI 那時起 勇騎 就注定不在同一個水平線上了
01/15 12:54, 39F
還有 61 則推文
01/15 13:50, 8年前 , 101F
反正有生之年宇宙曇花總要凋謝
01/15 13:50, 101F

01/15 13:51, 8年前 , 102F
每個王朝 都需要一個配角 然後征服後 成為傳說
01/15 13:51, 102F

01/15 14:00, 8年前 , 103F
感覺勇士已經沒把騎士視為首要對手了
01/15 14:00, 103F

01/15 14:13, 8年前 , 104F
劣幣驅逐良幣,誰是劣幣阿嘻嘻?
01/15 14:13, 104F

01/15 14:30, 8年前 , 105F
勇士這幾年不只KD,板凳也補的不錯,也能整合成戰力
01/15 14:30, 105F

01/15 14:40, 8年前 , 106F
去年的勇騎戰就有點悶了 第一跟第二年的精彩多了
01/15 14:40, 106F

01/15 15:00, 8年前 , 107F
某些人只會酸勇士大團 怎麼不檢討騎士都不怎麼練替
01/15 15:00, 107F

01/15 15:00, 8年前 , 108F
補 只會操老將不像勇士敢練 青賽也敢 就是騎士狂操
01/15 15:00, 108F

01/15 15:00, 8年前 , 109F
老將
01/15 15:00, 109F

01/15 15:08, 8年前 , 110F
勇士就四巨頭阿 還有兩個超巨 這樣說沒不妥吧
01/15 15:08, 110F

01/15 15:09, 8年前 , 111F
灰狼不也有人說三巨頭 怎麼一直有人在糾結大團小團
01/15 15:09, 111F

01/15 15:10, 8年前 , 112F
青賽陣容也輸騎士很多,是騎士該檢討吧?
01/15 15:10, 112F

01/15 15:10, 8年前 , 113F
說巨頭等於酸??
01/15 15:10, 113F

01/15 15:11, 8年前 , 114F
以前酸湖人F4,現在還比湖人大團連幾年聯盟薪資最
01/15 15:11, 114F

01/15 15:11, 8年前 , 115F
高了,沒靠THE跨黑哨KI三分連那一冠都偷不到
01/15 15:11, 115F

01/15 15:12, 8年前 , 116F
姆咪對巨頭的浮動標準真有趣
01/15 15:12, 116F

01/15 15:13, 8年前 , 117F
更別說東區那麼好打哈哈
01/15 15:13, 117F

01/15 15:14, 8年前 , 118F
勇士最強團、騎士最大團沒什麼爭議
01/15 15:14, 118F

01/15 15:30, 8年前 , 119F
這版小丑有夠多 兩邊都有明星那段 87都可以看出誰才
01/15 15:30, 119F

01/15 15:30, 8年前 , 120F
是最大團
01/15 15:30, 120F

01/15 15:31, 8年前 , 121F
還在The跨喔 73勇明明就是西冠就該淘汰了
01/15 15:31, 121F

01/15 15:31, 8年前 , 122F
可是瑞凡 騎士今年不行了
01/15 15:31, 122F

01/15 15:32, 8年前 , 123F
要說偷 也是偷了杯子蛋糕的第一冠吧
01/15 15:32, 123F

01/15 15:33, 8年前 , 124F
第2年精彩?....裁判幫的很精彩吧
01/15 15:33, 124F

01/15 15:41, 8年前 , 125F
怎麼不說15年是靠把KI撞下場 偷了騎士的一冠?
01/15 15:41, 125F

01/15 15:53, 8年前 , 126F
01/15 15:53, 126F

01/15 16:03, 8年前 , 127F
代表現在的趨勢 勇士屌虐各隊
01/15 16:03, 127F

01/15 16:04, 8年前 , 128F
唉 又不承認自己最大團了 整合不好該怪自己不是怪勇
01/15 16:04, 128F

01/15 16:04, 8年前 , 129F
士大團,主力除了KD 大鎖小AI,三巨頭都自己養的,
01/15 16:04, 129F

01/15 16:04, 8年前 , 130F
哪像騎士炒短線組最大團
01/15 16:04, 130F

01/15 16:08, 8年前 , 131F
移動迷宮也自己養的喔
01/15 16:08, 131F

01/15 16:11, 8年前 , 132F
主力懂嗎 笑死
01/15 16:11, 132F

01/15 16:11, 8年前 , 133F
全隊拼裝車好意思講
01/15 16:11, 133F

01/15 16:52, 8年前 , 134F
薪資跟球員,就真的是歷史最大團啊,湖人F4比你還
01/15 16:52, 134F

01/15 16:52, 8年前 , 135F
老還傷,還不是酸的很開心
01/15 16:52, 135F

01/15 17:05, 8年前 , 136F
對我們非勇騎迷來說就是都很大團 有差嗎
01/15 17:05, 136F

01/15 17:26, 8年前 , 137F
看到勇士眾將都在講KI 就知道騎士大腿是誰了 反觀LB
01/15 17:26, 137F

01/15 17:26, 8年前 , 138F
J就只提the 跨
01/15 17:26, 138F

01/15 17:45, 8年前 , 139F
KI換Curry 或 KD換LBJ 感覺就是換LBJ戰績會直直落
01/15 17:45, 139F

01/16 01:07, 8年前 , 140F
浮動巨頭超有梗
01/16 01:07, 140F
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