[外絮] 為何本季MVP會是鬍子, 而非西河

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Why the NBA MVP is James Harden, and Not Russell Westbrook 為何MVP是鬍子, 而非西河 http://tinyurl.com/h2bnnrx All the offseason hype this year was garnered towards Kevin Durant bailing on comrade Russell Westbrook to join the Warriors, in what was largely seen as the biggest betrayal in sports since LeBron left Cleveland. 休賽季所有的焦點都聚集在Kevin Durant放棄了西河同志轉身加盟勇士 這件事被廣泛的看做自從LeBron當年離開Cleveland後最大的背叛 Durant leaving the Oklahoma City shook up the MVP conversation, as it became harder to imagine a MVP coming out of San Francisco this year (sorry Steph, no three-peat for you). The Warriors lineup contains four All-Star players, so should one of the core fail to show up, there are three other all-stars there to pick up the slack. 離開OKC的Durant吹皺了一池MVP討論的春水, 讓大家更難去想像本季MVP會是名勇士球員 抱歉了Stephen Curry, 不會連三屆MVP了 勇士陣容包含了四名All Star, 當有人狀況不佳時其它三人就會跳出來 Durant left behind an angry Russell Westbrook, whom, fueled by the fire of betrayal, has posted extraordinary numbers this year to the tune of a triple double average. He is the first player to record such a stat-line since Oscar Robertson in the 1961-62 season. Westbrook is posting averages of 31.7 PPG, 10.9 APG, and 10.4 RPG, hijacking media headlines just about every single night. So how is it that Westbrook is not the guaranteed MVP this year? With such admirable performances, including a 22 assist game, how is Russell Westbrook not the sole contender for the coveted Most Valuable Player award? 因為KD的離開而胸臆滿腔怒火的西河, 本季打出非凡的場均大三元表現 是自1961-62 Oscar Robertson之後首位有這樣表現的球員, 31.7分10.9助攻10.4籃板 那為什麼西河不會是本季的MVP呢? 更別說他還有過22助攻的單場表現耶 目前的MVP雷達依序是: 鬍子 > 西河 > LeBron > KD While his stats have been astronomical, the Thunder haven’t been. Holding on to the fifth seed of a top-heavy Western conference, the Thunder are 19-12 on the year, and bouncing around the lower half of the playoff bracket. There has not been a MVP winner from a team outside of the top two seeds in their respective conference since Karl Malone won the award in 1999 with the third seeded Jazz, who were actually tied for the top record in the West. Should the Thunder continue at their pace, they will finish in 5th place in the West, So who then is this years NBA MVP? James Harden. 當西河目前的個人數據登峰造極之時, 他的雷霆卻還沒能羽化成仙 雷霆目前在競爭激烈的西區只暫排第五 自從1999爵士西區第三, Karl Malone獲選MVP之後至今 沒出現過MVP是從分區前兩種子以外球隊的球員獲得 倘若雷霆持續現在的狀況最終還是西區第五的話, MVP會是誰呢? 是鬍子 The Rockets went through a similar, though less dramatic nor publicized, offseason to that of the Thunder. Dwight Howard departed back home to Atlanta, leaving James Harden with the reigns (not that they weren’t practically his). Harden extended his deal with Houston until 2020, and has gotten right to work on making them a contender, along with new coach Mike D’ Antoni. 今夏火箭的陣容更動跟雷霆有些類似, 但戲劇性跟大眾注意程度比較小 魔獸跑回家鄉, 留鬍子一個人當火箭王 鬍子跟火箭簽了到2020的延長約, 並在新教頭D'Antoni麾下獲權獨力推動火箭 The Rockets, to many people’s surprise, have accumulated a record of 23-9 through their first 32 games this season, including tough victories on the road at Golden State and San Antonio. This is largely thanks to James Harden, who is posting extraordinary stats himself, while tallying six triple doubles already on the season. Harden is putting up 27.5 points, 7.8 rebounds and 11.9 assists per night, while leading the Rockets to a tie for the third seed in the West. 讓許多人驚訝的, 火箭目前32場拿下23勝9敗, 包含了客場對抗勇士與馬刺的艱困勝利 這全得歸功於鬍子繳出極其出色的數據, 本季至今已經有過六次大三元 目前鬍子場均數據27.5分7.8籃板11.9助攻, 並讓火箭晉身西區第三 Harden is shooting a higher percentage than Westbrook and taking six less shots per game, averaging 4.2 less points per contest. Harden is sinking more three pointers than he has in his career, putting up 3.0 per game, while actually seeing less time on the court than the previous season. Harden’s minutes have gone down from 38.1 MPG last year to 36.5 this season. Harden is also shooting 51.5% on his 2-point field goals, compared to Westbrook's 45.9%. 鬍子的命中率比西河高, 場均比西河少出手6次, 但場均得分只少西河4.2分 鬍子比生涯其他季命中更多三分, 場均3顆, 但上場時間卻比上季更少 (上季38.1>36.5) 目前鬍子兩分球命中率51.5%, 反觀西河僅有45.9% Yes, Russell Westbrook is playing more efficiently than James Harden, but only slightly. Westbrook boasts a league best 30.75 PER, while the Beard comes in at 27.52. The MVP award, however, does not belong to the most efficient player. LeBron James was the PER leader for the NBA from 2007-2013, six straight seasons. Within those six years, LeBron won the MVP four out of the six times, and each year he won the award his team was a top-two seed in the Eastern Conference. Anthony Davis led the league in PER in 2014-2015, yet Steph Curry took home the award, with the Warriors holding the best record in the association. So while Westbrook has been the most efficient player in the league, and by no small margin, the award would likely go to someone on a better team. 是的, 西河比鬍子打得更有效率但高不了多少, 西河PER聯盟最高30.75, 鬍子27.52 但MVP獎項並不屬於最高效球員 看看LeBron, 他可是從2007-2013連6年都是聯盟PER第一名, 但只拿過4次MVP 在這4次MVP球季裡, LeBron所屬球隊都是東區前二種子 2014-15聯盟PER最高的是Anthony Davis, 但MVP是Steph Curry, 該季勇士戰績聯盟第一 所以即便西河本季聯盟最高效, MVP將可能會是由戰績更好球隊的球員獲得 After 32 games last season, the Rockets had a .500 winning percentage, posting a 16-16 record. The Thunder after 31 games last year had a record of 21-10. Houston has improved by seven wins in a young season, something very difficult to do. 上季前32場打完火箭勝率剛滿5成, 16勝16敗, 上季雷霆31場打完後是21勝10敗 而火箭這季前32場打完, 硬是比上季多拿了7勝, 這是很難辦到的事情 What Harden is doing in Houston is too important to be overlooked any further and the man deserves credit where credit is due. Even if Westbrook holds a slightly higher statistical advantage, which is undeniable, the MVP award has always gone to a player who has helped his team achieve the highest level of success possible, and Harden and the Rockets are performing well beyond their original expectations. 這季鬍子在火箭所做的一切太過重要, 一點也無法被忽視, 他值得所有該得的讚賞 縱使西河在個人數據上稍稍占優, MVP永遠都是給予能幫助球隊, 提升球隊成功的人 本季的鬍子與火箭, 展現了超出季前大家所預期的結果 If the Rockets can maintain their incredible performance, expect to see James Harden hoisting the MVP trophy, and perhaps a deep playoff run for Houston. 如果火箭能持續他們這令人難以置信的好表現 就可以期待鬍子本季榮膺MVP, 並且或許帶領火箭在季後賽走的深遠 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 60.250.135.23 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1482903198.A.AC4.html

12/28 13:35, , 1F
我覺得LBJ最有資格!少了他整隻球隊什麼都不是
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12/28 13:36, , 2F
贊成,球隊實績就確實是Harden帶領的火箭比較好
12/28 13:36, 2F

12/28 13:37, , 3F
一樓只是因為沒看到沒哈登的火箭而已
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12/28 13:38, , 4F
Harden>Westbrook,這點毫無疑問,不過Harden能否
12/28 13:38, 4F

12/28 13:38, , 5F
拿到MVP還得看其他隊球員
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12/28 13:38, , 6F
一樓鐵定沒看過開季鬍子下場 換Ennis控球時的反差
12/28 13:38, 6F

12/28 13:39, , 7F
鬍子要拿MVP要有戰積加持 沒前三就不用想了
12/28 13:39, 7F

12/28 13:39, , 8F
可愛暫時退出這個討論,就看KD+LBJ戰績及表現如何
12/28 13:39, 8F

12/28 13:39, , 9F
Harden打法改變影響隊友 西河照樣衝衝衝
12/28 13:39, 9F

12/28 13:40, , 10F
LBJ沒打 起碼還有KI LOVE兩隻ALL STAR...
12/28 13:40, 10F

12/28 13:40, , 11F
鬍子這季真的不錯
12/28 13:40, 11F

12/28 13:40, , 12F
鬍子這季到目前為止沒話說
12/28 13:40, 12F

12/28 13:40, , 13F
沒James的火箭應該比沒James的騎士還鳥
12/28 13:40, 13F

12/28 13:40, , 14F
雷霆 火箭 少了溪河 鬍子還剩下啥
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12/28 13:40, , 15F
問題是騎士只剩他們兩個的時候...
12/28 13:40, 15F

12/28 13:40, , 16F
鬍子今年很猛
12/28 13:40, 16F

12/28 13:40, , 17F
這個對比太強烈了
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12/28 13:41, , 18F
不是說KI LOVE不好 只是有LBJ在場 才能將他們最大化
12/28 13:41, 18F

12/28 13:41, , 19F
毫無疑問
12/28 13:41, 19F

12/28 13:41, , 20F
鬍子要拿MVP要有戰績加持←西河更是吧
12/28 13:41, 20F

12/28 13:42, , 21F
火箭之前天空貝沒回歸時的地獄6分鐘真的是地獄
12/28 13:42, 21F

12/28 13:42, , 22F
最大化套用在火箭雷霆也一樣
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12/28 13:42, , 23F
球隊天賦是遠遠不如騎士
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12/28 13:43, , 24F
少了LBJ,騎士憑現在陣容應該還能在陣痛期後回穩,
12/28 13:43, 24F

12/28 13:43, , 25F
但不再是超級強隊;火箭少了Harden,則是沒有季後
12/28 13:43, 25F

12/28 13:43, , 26F
賽可打。
12/28 13:43, 26F

12/28 13:43, , 27F
起碼火箭雷霆在西區 完全沒輪休本錢
12/28 13:43, 27F

12/28 13:44, , 28F
等騎士打雷霆火箭就知道了...
12/28 13:44, 28F

12/28 13:45, , 29F
打完82場 場均30分大三元 小龜應該還是很有機會的
12/28 13:45, 29F

12/28 13:45, , 30F
因為鬍子已經被咖哩偷了一座 該還了
12/28 13:45, 30F

12/28 13:45, , 31F
目前來說 毋庸置疑
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12/28 13:45, , 32F
個人認為衝進西區前四就都還有機會~
12/28 13:45, 32F

12/28 13:46, , 33F
也不能說Harden的隊友弱,尤其這球季新加入的Eric G
12/28 13:46, 33F

12/28 13:46, , 34F
ordon和Ryan Anderson,真的在丹東尼體系下配合Hard
12/28 13:46, 34F

12/28 13:46, , 35F
en進攻大解放
12/28 13:46, 35F

12/28 13:47, , 36F
試問 假設雷霆卡上第四 火箭第三 誰比較有機會呢?
12/28 13:47, 36F

12/28 13:48, , 37F
呵呵,不出所料馬上有人來反串黑鬍子了
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12/28 13:50, , 38F
火箭吧,畢竟先發中鋒Capela受傷,稍微有加成
12/28 13:50, 38F

12/28 13:51, , 39F
西區沒輪休本錢?那馬刺一直在搞笑?
12/28 13:51, 39F
還有 74 則推文
還有 3 段內文
12/28 15:12, , 114F
我投MDA一票
12/28 15:12, 114F

12/28 15:17, , 115F
西河是要跟鬍子比啊 火箭戰績也不是多嚇人 雷霆
12/28 15:17, 115F

12/28 15:17, , 116F
目前也只比火箭多三敗 西河還重現幾十年才一次的
12/28 15:17, 116F

12/28 15:17, , 117F
單季大三元 不該給嗎@@
12/28 15:17, 117F

12/28 15:19, , 118F
前幾戰都是打弱隊阿..
12/28 15:19, 118F

12/28 15:20, , 119F
火箭戰績蠻嚇人的
12/28 15:20, 119F

12/28 15:20, , 120F
雷霆戰績也不是很爛啊…
12/28 15:20, 120F

12/28 15:22, , 121F
所以我說如果衝到第四甚至第三就蠻有機會的啊...
12/28 15:22, 121F

12/28 15:22, , 122F
兩隊戰績沒差多多的話 當然給平均大三元啊
12/28 15:22, 122F

12/28 15:23, , 123F
說不定還會看雷霆火箭對戰兩人表現
12/28 15:23, 123F

12/28 15:25, , 124F
吃戰績吧
12/28 15:25, 124F

12/28 15:32, , 125F
鬍子鬍子
12/28 15:32, 125F

12/28 15:33, , 126F
雷霆隊友不是比火箭好嗎
12/28 15:33, 126F

12/28 15:39, , 127F
MVP 不是數據王 不是PER王 若球隊戰績不好
12/28 15:39, 127F

12/28 15:40, , 128F
就稱不上有價值
12/28 15:40, 128F

12/28 15:42, , 129F
現在就都沒有戰績不好啊 XD
12/28 15:42, 129F

12/28 15:48, , 130F
推鬍子,今年太白了
12/28 15:48, 130F

12/28 15:50, , 131F
ss
12/28 15:50, 131F

12/28 15:50, , 132F
戰績很重要
12/28 15:50, 132F

12/28 16:01, , 133F
哈登mvp
12/28 16:01, 133F

12/28 16:21, , 134F
我大西河會拿第三次明星賽mvp+mvp+fmvp
12/28 16:21, 134F

12/28 16:27, , 135F
鬍子打球真的很特殊 永遠都是用走的
12/28 16:27, 135F

12/28 16:28, , 136F
KD到了73勝球隊依舊是第一大腿 且技壓全票MVP curry
12/28 16:28, 136F

12/28 16:28, , 137F
本季拿不到MVP就太說不過去了
12/28 16:28, 137F

12/28 16:38, , 138F
三元龜不給嗎?
12/28 16:38, 138F

12/28 17:03, , 139F
一樓菜逼八?
12/28 17:03, 139F

12/28 17:09, , 140F
1999後沒出現過MVP是從分區前兩種子以外球隊的球員
12/28 17:09, 140F

12/28 17:09, , 141F
話說火箭現在西區第三 雷霆西區第四 半斤八兩吧
12/28 17:09, 141F

12/28 17:14, , 142F
西區第四明明就快艇, 不過快艇...CP3和葛力芬...
12/28 17:14, 142F

12/28 17:18, , 143F
哈登很強,但是沒有冷笑話,他真的能帶領火箭打出這季
12/28 17:18, 143F

12/28 17:19, , 144F
的戰績和數據嗎?西河幾乎是一己之力了
12/28 17:19, 144F

12/28 17:23, , 145F
火箭14-15就西區第二了 哈登沒冷笑話帶不出戰績?
12/28 17:23, 145F

12/28 17:24, , 146F
那季 第二得分點DH場均15分只打41場.
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12/28 17:39, , 147F
我鬍MVP
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12/28 17:51, , 148F
一樓充分展現女母迷水準
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12/28 17:55, , 149F
沒冷笑話就帶過了好嗎
12/28 17:55, 149F

12/28 18:58, , 150F
3F XDDDD
12/28 18:58, 150F

12/28 19:45, , 151F
支持鬍子拿MVP
12/28 19:45, 151F

12/28 20:06, , 152F
鬍子該拿了
12/28 20:06, 152F

12/28 21:06, , 153F
撇開馬刺 真的很欣賞哈登
12/28 21:06, 153F
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