[外絮] 惜敗青賽！Butler氣教頭決勝節不讓先發

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連輸兩場且近五場已三敗的公牛 今作客青賽仍不幸100-105敗北 雙方三節戰完是75-75平 未料第四節開局青賽一波12-2的攻勢底定了戰果 而這波攻勢期間Jimmy Butler剛好在板凳上休息 此役拿下生涯得分新高（36分）的Jimmy Butler 對總教練Hoiberg在決勝節一早讓他調節體力之舉並不感激 事實上，他表示Hoiberg拒絕自己第四節續留場上的要求 也許是近來輸到上火，賽後他餘怒未消: "I told Fred not to take me out at the beginning of the fourth," Butler said. "I wanted to play because that's when we give up those leads, at the beginning of the fourth. Nothing against my teammates, but I think if I'm out there and I get their energy going the right way, now take me out and let me rest. But the energy's going, the energy's flowing. I think I got to start playing at the beginning of the fourth quarter." [...] "[He said] I need a rest," Butler said. "I'm like, 'Man, I can handle an extra 45 seconds to a minute. Just let me get the energy going, get a stop here or there, and get us going in the right direction to start the fourth.'" [...] "They got off to a 12-2 start on us," Hoiberg said of the fourth quarter, before Butler's comments. "You got to come out with greater urgency. I thought our effort was really good most of the night. [We] had too many turnovers in that first half. They scored 25 points on our 18 turnovers. But they came out and threw the first punch in the fourth quarter and got us on our heels a little bit and then got back into it. But that was it -- the start of the fourth." [...] "That's what I was back there talking to him about," Butler said. "It's a learning curve for him just like it is for me. I understand what he's trying to do, I'm not mad at him for that, but we got to win games if we want to find ourselves in the postseason." [...] "I don't give a damn about a career high," Butler said. "I want a win." 「我跟Fred說第四節才開始別換我下去 想繼續打是因為，就在第四節一開始，我們失去了領先優勢 我對隊友沒有任何意見 但我覺得如果我在場上，我給隊上帶來士氣 等士氣起來再換我下去休息也不遲啊 這就是我覺得當時我一定得留在場上的原因 「（教練）說我需要休息 拜託喔，也才多打４５秒到一分鐘，我行的好嗎 就讓我帶個氣勢，來幾個阻攻 讓我扭轉情勢，讓決勝節有個好開始會怎樣 「這下可好，第四節開頭反倒給對方來波12-2… 雖然今晚我們大部份時間打得很好 但第四節開局可以打得更有活力 我們上半場有太多失誤 總共失誤18次，讓對面得了25分 不過第四節一開始是他們用凌厲那波攻勢 讓我們打得有些遲疑，瞻前顧後了起來 也讓他們有機會贏球 一切的轉捩點就在那第四節一開頭 「這就是我跟他後來談的事 我明白這些起伏在他在我都是學習曲線的一部份 我也了解他只是想調節我的體力 我並不是氣他這個 但是如果想打季後賽，我們真的得多贏一點比賽… 得分新高什麼的我才懶得理，我要的是贏球。」 It's important to clarify exactly what happened to start the fourth, because Butler didn't sit for the full 12-2 run. A David Lee lay-up at the 9:15 mark gave the Celtics an 8-2 start, after which the Bulls called a timeout to slow the momentum and get Butler and Pau Gasol back in the game. The Bulls then allowed the Celtics to score the next four points until Butler made a jumper with 6:07 remaining to make it 87-79. In other words, Butler sat while the Celtics built a substantial lead but needed more than three minutes to make a direct impact on the game. It's therefore maybe not 100-percent worth it to suss out who was right in this disagreement, because Hoiberg didn't let Butler languish on the bench while the Bulls lost the game. (Perhaps those two-plus minutes of rest were even responsible for the 17 points Butler scored over the final 6:07 to help him to his new career-best.) Butler discussed the issue with Hoiberg and seems to understand the coach's perspective. It's likely that he's frustrated with losing much more than he is with the first-year coach. 重點是第四節一開始到底發生了什麼事 在青賽那波12-2的攻勢中，Butler並不是完全不在場上 比賽終了前9分15秒，Fred Hoiberg把Butler和Gasol重新換上時 雙方第四節比分是8-2 換言之Butler上場後波士頓還是連拿了四分 不過這也無法判定熟是熟非 畢竟在接下來的比賽Butler的確試圖力挽狂瀾 在比賽最後的6分07秒內獨得了17分 總得分還創生涯新高 （或許那兩分鐘多的休息不是沒有功勞？） Butler雖然跟教練談了這個問題 似乎也了解教練的觀點 但新手教練未能帶領球隊贏球仍讓他感到沮喪 來源 http://goo.gl/369sii -- To rest or not to rest; that is the question. -- Sent from my Windows -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 110.26.98.8 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1449758075.A.D39.html
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12/10 22:37, , 1F
來幾個阻攻XDDDD 推霸氣
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12/10 22:37, , 2F
錫箔多調教有方
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被操習慣了XDDD
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其實我是覺得有點看太重了
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自以為白邊開火鍋店
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很好阿 代表想贏
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反觀隊上其他人 一開心賣新鞋 一盤算準備轉隊
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總比愛輪休輪到往生的好
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12/10 22:41, , 9F
被操慣了不喜歡休息
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12/10 22:41, , 10F
年輕人就是年輕人
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12/10 22:44, , 11F
讓他先發第四節然後最後三五分鐘力竭崩盤會比較好？
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12/10 22:45, , 12F
教練很無辜，但是這種問題會鬧的上媒體並不是什麼好
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事
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被錫箔帶久了 感覺不四節全上好像怪怪的
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12/10 22:47, , 15F
贏球就沒問題 輸球一切都可成問題
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12/10 22:48, , 16F
照過去的經驗 多那一點時間並不會讓他力竭XD
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12/10 22:49, , 17F
還以為公牛軍是姓你Bulter呀
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12/10 22:49, , 18F
子龍你已經很操了好嗎 = =*
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12/10 22:49, , 19F
最後一句不是這樣吧？
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12/10 22:51, , 20F
請纓上陣XD
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12/10 22:52, , 21F
假如換你上被打爆要領繩嗎? 又一個放話的
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受傷才後悔
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子龍一身是膽！！！
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奴性太重
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12/10 22:58, , 25F
想贏的子龍
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12/10 22:59, , 26F
不血汗渾身不對勁
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12/10 23:00, , 27F
煩請補一下標題,若稍晚沒更動.視作無分類文章刪除
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12/10 23:04, , 28F
這麼喜歡被操哦@@
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12/10 23:04, , 29F
占美畢拿!
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12/10 23:04, , 30F
看太重了啦！ROSE以前比你更拼 拼到韌帶斷了
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12/10 23:05, , 31F
子龍七進七出 還需要休息?
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12/10 23:06, , 32F
被前教練操上癮了 每場都想上40分鐘
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願立軍令狀
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球星公開表示干涉新教練調度 不太好
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變成錫箔的形狀了
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JB去年平均上場時間 38.7，今年37.2
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結果錫箔度一直被酸
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他就球隊一哥,想上就上啊,結果輸球教練就背鍋吧...
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反觀螺絲
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台灣人血統!!!!
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子龍殺入長版坡，救哪一個阿斗？
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噓
12/10 23:57, , 42F
我是不是看到了「熟」是「熟」非？
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12/11 00:03, , 43F
休息一下才是好的決定...
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12/11 00:14, , 44F
英文部分有很多重複的，可能複製的時候重複到了
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噓
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年輕人，老了就知道寧願輸球也要控管的教練好
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好好聽養生迷的話
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今年比去年下降1.5分鐘 所以錫箔度被酸 有不合理嗎?
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12/11 00:53, , 48F
被慣老闆用習慣了
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年輕人就是年輕人 當年你羅在季後賽抱傷打
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一個墊步姿勢歪掉就回不去了
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12/11 01:06, , 51F
真的年輕人就是年輕人 這只是一場季賽 是多不相信
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隊友
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被操習慣了 如果到養生球隊應該會崩潰
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讓我想到kobe大傷的那一場。被MDA猛操，還是自己要
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求的。不過那時在進不進季後賽的邊緣，輸贏很重要
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※ rosebulls:轉錄至看板 ChicagoBulls 12/11 07:42
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12/11 07:43, , 56F
轉公牛
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12/11 08:22, , 57F
被操慣了 今年稍為放養就受不了??
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12/11 08:47, , 58F
果然是亞洲人 喜歡被壓榨欸!!
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12/11 09:11, , 59F
英文重複了唷 可以檢查一下嗎
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12/11 10:05, , 60F
熟是熟非—>孰是孰非
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12/11 10:23, , 61F
好熟悉的感覺阿 完全被奴性洗腦 不操不起勁
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12/11 10:48, , 62F
Butler:拜託 以前我都打滿48分鐘的XDD
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12/11 11:31, , 63F
中間有兩段是教練說的啦
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12/11 11:42, , 64F
錫箔教得不錯ww
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好勝心不錯~~~
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12/11 17:37, , 66F
青賽越打越好！
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