[外絮] GM們對於改變Hack-a-Shaq規則尚無共識

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CBS Sports http://goo.gl/3h9LXu Ken Berger 2015/5/13 翻譯不順見諒... At the annual meeting of NBA general managers Wednesday in Chicago, there was no overwhelming consensus to change the rules to discourage teams from intentionally fouling poor free-throw shooters, league sources told CBSSports.com. 聯盟人士告訴CBSSports.com在週三的NBA年度總管會議裡, 對於更變規則以阻止對罰球 不佳的球員犯規, 他們並沒有全面性的共識. "There is not enough support to change it," one executive in the meeting said. "It's one of those perception is bigger than reality issues." "沒有足夠的支持以改變這點(規則)," 會議裡的一位總管這麼說. " League officials presented data on intentional fouling that strongly suggested the problem is an isolated one, despite all the attention it has gotten during the postseason. According to the data shared with GMs at the meeting, 76 percent of the intentional fouls this season -- regular season and playoffs -- have been committed against five players: DeAndre Jordan, Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Joey Dorsey and Andre Drummond. 儘管蓄意犯規(駭客戰術)在本次季後賽受到了很多注意, 但官方所呈現的資料顯示這是 單獨的問題. 根據GM在此會議所有的資料, 本季76%的蓄意犯規 —包括例行賽與季後賽— 都犯在五位球員身上, 分別是: DeAndre Jordan, Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Joey Dorsey以及Andre Drummond. Jordan, the Clippers' center who has been hacked into the next century through the first two rounds of the playoffs, has accounted for about half of all intentional fouls this season, according to the league data. 快艇隊的Jordan在季後賽第一二輪被駭了多次, 根據聯盟的資料, 他囊括了本季約一半的 蓄意犯規. There was no binding vote taken on the matter, and the discussion is "just investigatory at this point," another executive said. The competition committee, which next meets in June during the NBA Finals, has the authority to recommend changing the rule to the Board of Governors. 對於此議題目前還沒有做有效的投票, "目前在審查當中," 另一位總管說. 下一次的 競賽委員面談在六月總冠軍賽間舉辦, 而競賽委員會有權向理事會提議更改規則. Clippers coach Doc Rivers, an influential member of the competition committee, has said repeatedly during the playoffs that he believes the rule will be changed for next season. One league source told CBSSports.com earlier this month that he estimated the chances of a rule change to discourage teams from intentionally fouling away from the ball at 85 percent. 洛杉磯快艇教頭Doc Rivers是競賽委員會具有影響力的一員, 他在這次季後賽好幾次提到, 他相信規則在下一季就會被作修改. 在本月早些前, 一位聯盟內部人士告訴CBSSports.com, 他預估規則將有85%的機會被更改, 以阻止球隊刻意向非持球者犯規. (fouling away from the ball) "It's part of the game," one of the executives said. "You need to make your free throws." "這是比賽的一部分," 其中一位總管說. "你必須投進你的罰球." -- 練好罰球才是根本 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 67.168.133.28 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1431589542.A.679.html ※ 編輯: wilsonkoo (67.168.133.28), 05/14/2015 15:47:18 ※ 編輯: wilsonkoo (67.168.133.28), 05/14/2015 15:50:01
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05/14 15:52, , 1F
遙想老姚在時火箭內線的罰球…
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河流自己本身也在用，然後也是受害者
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姚明準準
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火箭有三個受害者還是一直弄DAJ
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用可以但要有極限 不要跟冰箱一樣 贏20分還在玩
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就真的讓人看不下去
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噓
05/14 15:58, , 7F
curry很準三分要不要拔掉????
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05/14 15:58, , 8F
如果我是罰球好的四五號球員 我會很不爽
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05/14 15:59, , 9F
取消三分線好了
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05/14 15:59, , 10F
好像有人罰球好是天生的一樣 為啥是要向下看齊？
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05/14 16:01, , 11F
好像為了保護打擊好傳球爛的捕手決定禁止盜壘一樣
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05/14 16:03, , 12F
問題不再這好嗎 問題在娛樂性和比賽流暢度
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05/14 16:03, , 13F
如果比賽還是一樣好看 誰管他罰幾球
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05/14 16:03, , 14F
真的改掉的話..先向大歐說的SORRY吧..
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05/14 16:04, , 15F
不見得沒駭客比賽流暢度跟娛樂性就會好喔
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05/14 16:04, , 16F
改成蓄意犯規罰一球兩分好了 顆顆
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大歐的數據及虐殺禁區的畫面就這樣被搞掉不少
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05/14 16:07, , 18F
以後乾脆改成5打5全場鬥牛好啦
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05/14 16:08, , 19F
無聊，那有本事比賽末兩分鐘也開放駭客啊
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05/14 16:08, , 20F
阿四不像兩套標準是怎樣
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05/14 16:10, , 21F
要改可以啊 如果再有一個大歐出現了就別改回來
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05/14 16:21, , 22F
最後兩分鐘就是為了張伯倫改的,以後球隊就會在比賽
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05/14 16:22, , 23F
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05/14 16:22, , 24F
覺得難看就該改？評價標準是甚麼？
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05/14 16:23, , 25F
結束前,比分接近時和張伯倫玩老鷹抓小雞,聯盟才設兩
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05/14 16:23, , 26F
那棒球規則改成打擊爛的人都不能上場，有礙瞻觀嗎
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05/14 16:24, , 27F
分鐘規則,只是現在駭客戰術發揚光大,各隊在比賽終結
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前就在玩
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05/14 16:27, , 29F
兩邊都罰啊 駭的吹技術+惡性換罰球爛的下場幾分鐘XD
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05/14 16:29, , 30F
對啊那憑啥最後兩分鐘不練好罰球
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罰球也是比賽一部分 給你得分機會 投不進是你的事
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05/14 16:29, , 32F
給那些人逃過一劫
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05/14 16:29, , 33F
聯盟不公
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05/14 16:31, , 34F
新聞出來都是反對居多，結果居然可以搞到要投票了
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05/14 16:35, , 35F
搞到最後變成和跆拳道一樣
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05/14 16:36, , 36F
最後一句是MJ 還是庫本
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05/14 16:38, , 37F
這也能開會表決，乾脆規定中鋒不用罰球好了
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05/14 16:44, , 38F
阿如果有些低能不論領先或落後 都亂用勒?
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而且他如果不爽就是對無論罰球好壞的人都用這招
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05/14 16:45, , 40F
觀眾就進場打人了
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nba是商業聯盟，如果這戰術會影響收視率的話肯定會
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改
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05/14 16:50, , 43F
NBA會以收視為考量，所以會某種程度禁止駭客
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05/14 16:51, , 44F
那Take-The-Rice 有共識了沒
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05/14 16:52, , 45F
大個子薪水又領得多，連練個罰球都懶，是要怪誰
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送到眼前的飯都不會吃 薪水先扣個5M
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聯盟在乎的是錢跟收視 就算老板GM不想改他們也會提
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當然能不能過是另外一回事
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那之前大歐霸凌禁區時..收視會比他被駭上罰球線低嗎
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還是在湖人就不用擔心收視問題..
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05/14 17:09, , 51F
乾脆改成兩罰都不進倒扣一分 這樣也能杜絕駭客戰術
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收視率有受到影響了嗎？
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05/14 17:10, , 53F
因為命中太低的根本無法上場
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05/14 17:12, , 54F
應該會規範，不會讓你用到爽這樣
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05/14 17:19, , 55F
以前大歐用沒影響收視是因為大歐罰球超好笑
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05/14 17:32, , 56F
不然為了保護運球不好的球員 乾脆規定不能抄截好了
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05/14 17:45, , 57F
身為全世界籃球最高殿堂的球員 結果基本的罰球都罰
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不好 這不是很可笑嗎
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樓上比喻怪怪的 罰進有直接得分 抄到球並沒有
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我說今天大
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05/14 17:52, , 61F
罰球是基本功啊！哪天把運球也廢除好了
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05/14 17:55, , 62F
mlb版扣除理論正夯 可以參考一下
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05/14 18:02, , 63F
要就最後兩分鐘也改+1 兩套標準蠻怪
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05/14 18:11, , 64F
罰球哪有有這麼好練 有些人就是練不起來
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05/14 18:18, , 65F
DAJ被駭一整季 還不知道要練罰球嗎?
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05/14 18:34, , 66F
我怎麼覺得講這話的總管是Bird XD
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05/14 19:29, , 67F
只有火箭跟快艇想改而已 而且他們現在用很爽
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05/14 19:40, , 68F
本末倒置 為何不要求球員罰球低於6成下放發展聯盟?
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把罰球練好吧
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05/14 20:09, , 70F
這麼合理怎麼最後兩分鐘要禁 回答我啊 罰球ㄇㄧˊ
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05/14 20:15, , 71F
怕影響比賽流暢度就不要上場不會？
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影響流暢度的是哨音 不是駭客
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05/14 20:35, , 73F
要為了流暢度 就讓好球員上場打啊 放有缺點的打怪誰
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05/14 21:47, , 74F
jordan這蓄意犯規的程度已經符合80的定義了吧？
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重點應該是"非持球者"這句話吧!本來對非持球者的犯
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就比較不合理，何況是故意
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規範:一個球員被犯規10次強制休息三分鐘 XD
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fiba也不能用這招啊
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