[外絮] 2014 NBA Draft 10大得分後衛

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在SG逐漸式微的這個時代 2014選秀大年的SG素質感覺都不錯, 希望會給NBA一個巨大的轉變 而很多球員在試訓過後,都因為被認為可以打SG 而從PG被拉上來 或從SF拉下來做評估 以下僅供參考 (AW被放SG我很驚訝,不過他打SF會有點瘦) 一樣挑大家不熟悉的幾隻作介紹 http://ppt.cc/VKJT Rank Player NBA Comparison 1. Andrew Wiggins Vince Carter 2. Gary Harris OJ Mayo(有防守的版本) 3. Nik Stauskas Jason Kapono 4. James Young Daequan Cook 5. P.J. Hairston Ricardo Ledo/Isaiah Rider 6. C.J. Wilcox Hubert Davis =================================================================== 7. Jordan Adams Anthony Morrow 8. Nick Johnson Shannon Brown >>乍看之下以為是紐約洋基那隻XD 9. Spencer Dinwiddie Brian Shaw 10. Bogdan Bogdanovic Zoran Planinic ==================================================================== 有幾隻會到一輪,有幾隻可能會到二輪 (要看隊形與需求) 遺珠 11. Thanasis Antetokounmpo Bruce Bowen 12. Joe Harris Adam Haluska ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Jordan Adams (6-5, 209) UCLA, sophomore | Age: 19 2013-14 stats: 17.4 points, 5.3 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 2.6 steals, 48.5 FG%, 35.6 3FG% Strengths: Adams initially said he would return to UCLA after his sophomore season, but then reversed course and declared for the draft. He is a skilled scorer who has a variety of means for getting off shots and a good understanding of how to exploit defenders’ weaknesses. His vast repertoire includes pulling up for jumpers, spotting up in transition and posting up. Among teammates who used at least 16 percent of UCLA’s possessions last season, Adams posted the highest offensive rating (121.5). With his long wingspan (6-10), Adams is proficient at slapping the ball away; he ranked in the top 10 nationally in steal percentage (5.0). 他是個擁有多種投射技巧的SG,而且有良好的解讀防守能力,能夠利用 對方的弱點進攻的好球員. UCLA隊上,最少參與球隊16%進攻possessions的球員裡面,他的offensive rating 最高 他有著在後衛裡面超長的臂展(6'10),他的抄截效率是全國(NCAA)前10名 換算PR值至少為前5% Weaknesses: Adams helped himself by showing up to last month’s combine 22 pounds lighter than his playing weight at UCLA. Still, average athleticism and explosiveness and a need for better conditioning are concerns. Can Adams find ways to get good shots off against more athletic NBA defenders? Though Adams was proficient at recording steals, he is by no means an elite one-on-one defender, as his lack of lateral quickness makes him vulnerable to getting beat off the dribble. 他只有NCAA平均左右的運動力跟爆發力,對往後培養他的球隊來說 還要花更多心思在整合這兩項上 他能否突破NBA的防守者找到時機投籃,也是令人懷疑的地方 他雖然抄截很不錯,但是他的單防很差 因為橫移速度太差,讓他在一對一防守上很容易被晃過 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Nick Johnson (6-3, 198) Arizona, junior | Age: 21 2013-14 stats: 16.3 points, 4.1 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.1 steals, 43.2 FG%, 36.7 3FG% Strengths: Over three years at Arizona, Johnson developed into one of the top players in the Pac-12 thanks in large part to his elite athleticism. Whether blocking shots, dunking or locking down scorers on the perimeter, Johnson used his quickness and agility to great effect. Johnson acclimated himself well as the Wildcats’ primary offensive option last season, scoring efficiently while using 25 percent of his team’s possessions (and shooting a respectable 36.7 percent from three-point range). He should have no issues transitioning into a more limited role in the NBA. Johnson is also an elite perimeter defender; his lateral quickness allows him to stay in front of opposing ball handlers. 因為他菁英級別的運動天賦,他是NCAA太平洋12校聯盟裡最優秀的球員之一 無論是蓋火鍋,扣籃,或是防守外線得分手,Nick Johnson的速度和敏捷居功厥偉 球隊有25%的進攻要由他經手,而他的得分效率非常高,而且三分線也有恐怖的36.7% 另外因為它的速度飛快,他同時也可以是個優秀的外線防守者 一般認為他在進入NBA之後的轉換上,可以隨插即用,不會遇到太多困難 Weaknesses: It’s hard to identify a position for Johnson, as he’s a bit undersized for a two-guard. Johnson also struggled at times to create his own shot, scoring just 0.68 points per possession on isolation play types (in an admittedly small sample of 44 possessions). Johnson is effective scoring in transition (he scored 1.23 PPP on such play types) or in spot-up situations (1.01), but how successful he can be attacking the basket off the dribble is an open question. 他未來在NBA的位置會很掙扎,因為他尷尬的身高(6'3),他會是個身材較矮小的雙能衛 當他在打ISO的時候,每次攻擊得分僅僅只有0.68分(44次單打) 他攻守轉換時的point per possession是1.23分,定點射手可得1.01分 所以怎麼用它會是新球團的挑戰 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Spencer Dinwiddie (6-6, 205) Colorado, junior | Age: 21 2013-14 stats: 14.7 points, 3.8 assists, 3.1 rebounds, 1.5 steals, 46.6 FG%, 41.3 3FG% Strengths: Dinwiddie looked set to turn in his best college season yet, but a knee injury suffered in January limited him to only 17 games. When he played Dinwiddie excelled as Colorado's do-everything guard. He has excellent size for a guard, can sink three-point shots (41.3 percent) and possesses a good understanding of how to break down defenses off the dribble, if not the top-notch quickness and explosiveness to always pull it off. Dinwiddie is also an adequate defender, with the versatility to match up on a range of opponents. 他這季表現的不錯,但因為1月的膝蓋手術只出賽了17場 他在科羅拉多是一個全能的後衛(do-everything guard) 他有著非常不錯的身材,與高三分命中率(41.3%), 他很懂得怎麼切,但是速度跟爆發力跟頂級差上一些,所以不是每次都切得進去 他本身是個全方位的後衛,能針對對方防守者不同的類型去做不同的轉變 Weaknesses: While Dinwiddie’s height gives him an advantage over many other backcourt prospects, his lack of bulk can be a disadvantage, particularly when trying to contain opposing ball handlers or fight through contact on the way to the basket. There are also questions as to whether Dinwiddie has the skill set to be a point guard, and uncertainty about how he’ll acquit himself after recovering from a major knee surgery could lower his stock. Dinwiddie’s lack of elite athleticism is another concern. his lack of bulk會是個蠻麻煩的缺點,在面對對方進攻與籃下滴為對抗時,會是個 不小的問題 他是否能扛起整個團隊的組織,甚至轉型為一個控球後衛, 以及他是否能從膝蓋手術中恢復水準,都是不小的問題 他缺乏運動天賦也是另一個隱憂 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Bogdan Bogdanovic (6-6, 200) Partizan NIS Belgrade (Serbia) | Country: Serbia 2013-14 stats (Adriatic League): 14.8 points, 3.7 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 1.6 steals, 40.1 FG%, 34 3FG% Strengths: Bogdanovic, who withdrew from last year's draft, enjoyed a breakout season with Partizan, winning the Euroleague Rising Star award for best young performer. He also possesses a great name and is not to be confused with 2011 draftee Bojan Bogdanovic (no relation). At 6-6, Bogdanovic can play either guard spot, score in a variety of ways and facilitate offense when needed. He projects as a capable defender, active in the passing lanes with a 6-11 wingspan. 去年他臨時決定取消參加選秀會,繼續留在歐洲磨練一年,也得到 歐洲聯賽新星獎最佳球員的殊榮 以他6'6的優異身材,卻能同時打好PG與SG兩個位置,必要時可以組織進攻 他會是個很棒的後衛,有可能可以長成步錯的防守悍將,因為6'11的臂展可以 阻斷對方的傳球 Weaknesses: Bogdanovic isn't an outstanding athlete and can be turnover-prone. He’s not really an elite scorer or playmaker, and doesn’t possess one NBA-quality skill he can sell right now. It may be a while before we see him over here, as there’s talk of Bodganovic transferring to a different European team (with a potentially heftier buyout clause) next season, which would seem to delay any arrival in the states. 因為它很容易失誤,他不會是個頂尖級別的球員 他不是菁英等級的射手,因為目前投射能力不具有NBA的水準 另外有一說就是他被換到一個買斷限制更高的歐洲球隊, 所以選他的球隊要得到他很困難,也因此下個賽季很難看到他 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.113.67.9 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1403456589.A.315.html

06/23 01:04, , 1F
一堆 比 我 不高 的 我 196 換算 有 七呎
06/23 01:04, 1F
很遺憾~~ 7呎大概213公分 但是你196 穿鞋報個6'6應該OK 如果找到畢斯利的經紀人 你可以報到6'8喔 ※ 編輯: joey1149 (140.113.67.9), 06/23/2014 01:06:47

06/23 01:08, , 2F
Antetokounmpo 天花板是張苞 好像很威
06/23 01:08, 2F
二輪中後,甚至有可能落榜的球員還有模板 算是有一定期待了 不過他弟發展性還是比較令人期待

06/23 01:09, , 3F
Nik Stauskas除了皮膚白跟投籃準外沒一樣像Kapono
06/23 01:09, 3F
※ 編輯: joey1149 (140.113.67.9), 06/23/2014 01:12:49

06/23 01:13, , 4F
Nik倒比較像J.J
06/23 01:13, 4F

06/23 01:16, , 5F
jordan adams會是黑馬 記住了
06/23 01:16, 5F
Jordan Adams據說防守跟鬍子同level......... ※ 編輯: joey1149 (140.113.67.9), 06/23/2014 01:24:18

06/23 01:31, , 6F
Nick Johnson那段翻譯:原文說的是球隊有25%的進攻
06/23 01:31, 6F

06/23 01:31, , 7F
要由他經手
06/23 01:31, 7F

06/23 01:31, , 8F
並不一定說他是團隊球員,有無限開火權的自幹王也可
06/23 01:31, 8F

06/23 01:32, , 9F
以吃掉很多possession
06/23 01:32, 9F

06/23 01:33, , 10F
不過的確是說了他的進攻很有效率
06/23 01:33, 10F

06/23 01:33, , 11F
嗯 那確定不選2號
06/23 01:33, 11F

06/23 01:35, , 12F
Spencer Dinwiddie的運球突破:
06/23 01:35, 12F

06/23 01:36, , 13F
原文說的是他很懂得怎麼切,但是速度跟爆發力跟頂級
06/23 01:36, 13F

06/23 01:37, , 14F
差上一些,所以不是每次都切得進去
06/23 01:37, 14F

06/23 01:39, , 15F
Bogdan Bogdanovic:j大你想睡了嗎... XD
06/23 01:39, 15F

06/23 01:47, , 16F
長處:6-6身高,可以打PG和SG,得分手段多,必要時也
06/23 01:47, 16F

06/23 01:47, , 17F
能組織進攻
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06/23 01:47, , 18F
可能會長成防守悍將,靠6-11的臂展阻擾對方的傳球
06/23 01:47, 18F

06/23 01:48, , 19F
(完全沒有特別稱讚他的傳球能力)
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06/23 01:48, , 20F
短處:不是體能怪物,失誤偏多
06/23 01:48, 20F

06/23 01:48, , 21F
得分和組織兩樣都不是頂尖,現在也沒有NBA等級的技能
06/23 01:48, 21F

06/23 01:50, , 22F
Jordan Adams的offensive rating:
06/23 01:50, 22F

06/23 01:52, , 23F
原文說的是,UCLA隊上,最少參與球隊16%進攻
06/23 01:52, 23F

06/23 01:52, , 24F
possessions的球員裡面,他的offensive rating最高
06/23 01:52, 24F

06/23 01:56, , 25F
他靠PPP每次攻擊 <= 是指攻守轉換?
06/23 01:56, 25F
謝謝:)

06/23 01:57, , 26F
為啥把Wiggins放SG討論
06/23 01:57, 26F

06/23 01:57, , 27F
Nick Johnson那段?PPP是point per possession,出手
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06/23 01:57, , 28F
一次的得分期望值
06/23 01:57, 28F

06/23 01:58, , 29F
啊,沒抓到那個PPP翻譯 XD
06/23 01:58, 29F

06/23 02:00, , 30F
那句說的是,他攻守轉換時的出手PPP有1.23
06/23 02:00, 30F

06/23 02:01, , 31F
另外,原文有講到整季只有44次ISO是很小的樣本數
06/23 02:01, 31F

06/23 02:15, , 32F
NBA Comparison根本只有VC能看,其他都是role player
06/23 02:15, 32F

06/23 02:15, , 33F
話說 OJ Mayo真的是很可惜......以前聲勢超大
06/23 02:15, 33F

06/23 02:16, , 34F
看來 Harden就算不防守仍然可以繼續稱霸 SG好幾年。
06/23 02:16, 34F

06/23 02:19, , 35F
OJ mayo 跟逼死你 都是前2季就看到極限的選手
06/23 02:19, 35F

06/23 02:29, , 36F
這位哥哥 你是自己翻的嗎= =
06/23 02:29, 36F
抱歉,翻得很不好.....

06/23 04:24, , 37F
模板只是說打球風格吧 跟強度不一定有關
06/23 04:24, 37F

06/23 06:40, , 38F
Nick Johnson那邊 應該是說 他在Arizona大學三年裡
06/23 06:40, 38F

06/23 06:40, , 39F
已經成為NCAA太平洋12校聯盟(Pac-12)裡最頂尖的球員
06/23 06:40, 39F

06/23 06:41, , 40F
之一
06/23 06:41, 40F
THX :)

06/23 07:40, , 41F
那個像Bruce Bowen的指的是哪方面呀?
06/23 07:40, 41F
※ 編輯: joey1149 (140.113.67.9), 06/23/2014 09:33:56

06/23 09:44, , 42F
感謝翻譯
06/23 09:44, 42F

06/23 09:48, , 43F
VC AI Kobe T-Mac 等級 還要等多只?????
06/23 09:48, 43F

06/23 09:49, , 44F
久 我不要鬍子
06/23 09:49, 44F
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