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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1LMhpJ3h ] 作者: cat0806 (Cater) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] 快艇求變的時刻到了? 時間: Tue May 19 12:32:17 2015 Summer Scoop: Big changes for Clips? Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer 僅條列式列出重點段落,詳情請點原文:http://goo.gl/DIJLuw 1. Will the Clippers offer DeAndre Jordan a five-year max contract this summer? 快艇會給DeAndre Jordan一紙五年的頂薪合約嗎? Hell yes. There are always going to be those who don't feel comfortable giving a five-year, $108.7 million contract to a guy who can't shoot free throws and oftentimes has to come out of important games because of it. But if there's one thing we've learned in the new NBA, it's that you don't let talent leave without getting anything in return. 很不幸,是的。 你要給一個"不會罰球、而且關鍵時刻也因為這原因你不會將他放在場上"的人一張大約, 任何人都會給得不舒坦,具體數字估計應該會在 5年 $108.7M左右。 但我們學到了一件事,不要讓人才白白流失而不換回任何東西。 -- 2. The Dallas Mavericks are expected to make a strong push for Jordan, who would essentially be a younger version of the Mavs' current defensive anchor Tyson Chandler. The Lakers would likewise love to steal Jordan away from their Staples Center rival. Portland has enough cap space to re-sign LaMarcus Aldridge and make a max offer to Jordan -- who has a similar but far superior skill set to Robin Lopez -- but he'd just be trading one third-fiddle spot for another in that scenario. 小牛、湖人、拓荒者都對DeAndre Jordan有興趣。 No other team can offer Jordan more than four years, $80.7 million. But the 26-year-old center could also decide to sign a two-year deal with a player option on the second year to take advantage of the ballooning salary-cap in 2016. If he were to opt out after that first season, then re-sign for five more seasons, Jordan could make $162.6 million over the next six seasons. Jordan可以和其他球隊簽下一份為期四年,總價值8070萬美元的合約。 或者也可以簽個一年同時第二年帶有球員選項。 如果他未來表現出色,可以在第二年跳出合約,到時工資帽上漲。 如果Jordan選擇跳出合約,可以簽下一份五年1.43億美元的大合約。 -- 3. The Clippers' needs are obvious: more depth at small forward, a better backup big man for Griffin and Jordan, youth, athleticism and defense. It's going to be hard to meaningfully address all those needs with only minimum contracts to offer. The Clippers have interest in Lakers swingman Wes Johnson, according to sources. They also have last year's first-round pick -- shooting guard C.J. Wilcox -- on their bench. Not exactly needle-moving moves. 快艇的需求很顯而易見。 他們需要一名有深度的小前鋒,一名能給Griffin & Jordan打替補的大個子。 要具備年輕、活動力強、防守佳的條件。 但根據快艇現有薪資,以上條件很難達到。 據報導,綜合以上條件,快艇隊湖人的小前鋒Wesley Johnson有興趣, 此外,快艇板凳上還坐著去年的第一輪新秀C.J. Wilcox。 -- 4. The thinking goes something like this: If OKC is genuinely worried Durant will leave in 2016, they have to look to get something in return for him this year. Blake Griffin is from Oklahoma City. The Clippers keep topping out in the second round and might be willing to shake things up. It's a nice theory. Juicy, too. But neither team has ever seriously discussed it. And Clippers owner Steve Ballmer has made it clear to the entire organization that he wants Griffin to be a part of the franchise for his entire career. 思路是這樣的: 如果雷霆真的擔心Kevin Durant會在2016年離開而讓他們一無所獲的話, 他們可能會選擇在下賽季將他交易而得到一些回報。 所以方案應該是:Kevin Dirant <--> Blake Griffin Blake Griffin剛好是在Oklahoma出生的。 快艇沒能過第二輪的瓶頸可能會讓他們選擇做出一些改變。 這個假設很好,但是兩隊至今還沒就這個問題展開任何正式討論。 而且快艇老闆Steve Ballmer曾明確告訴過管理層,他希望Griffin整個生涯都待在快艇。 As Rivers said, you can never say never to major changes. But that's not the plan right now. Doc Rivers也說了:「你無法預知事情下一秒的變化,但目前還沒有確實計畫。」 -- 乾五摳零???? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.231.24.117 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1432009939.A.0EB.html ※ 編輯: cat0806 (61.231.24.117), 05/19/2015 12:32:56

05/19 12:34, , 1F
Hell yes沒有很不幸的意思吧...
05/19 12:34, 1F

05/19 12:35, , 2F
快艇應該拆掉換人 不然也只是繼續不上不下
05/19 12:35, 2F
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05/19 13:14, , 3F
小牛需要花2000千萬簽防守型苦力嗎?
05/19 13:14, 3F

05/19 13:16, , 4F
太貴了
05/19 13:16, 4F

05/19 13:55, , 5F
寧願頂新去簽小Gasol 有消息說小牛也對他有興趣
05/19 13:55, 5F

05/19 13:57, , 6F
雖然我們要競爭的對手有馬刺尼克湖人 還有母隊灰熊
05/19 13:57, 6F

05/19 13:58, , 7F
但比起DAJ的頂薪 小Gasol的頂薪絕對有價值多了
05/19 13:58, 7F

05/19 14:21, , 8F
想要小Gasol+1 可是感覺搶不贏馬刺灰熊
05/19 14:21, 8F

05/19 14:22, , 9F
DAJ態度和球商的隱憂不比罰球小 簽他有風險
05/19 14:22, 9F

05/19 14:24, , 10F
看到第三點想到CP25...
05/19 14:24, 10F

05/19 14:25, , 11F
不過話說回來 搶小Gasol的確更勝DAJ
05/19 14:25, 11F

05/19 14:53, , 12F
小Gasol太難搶了
05/19 14:53, 12F

05/19 17:03, , 13F
我怕金凱瑞無法忍受DJ時常放空的腦袋耶~
05/19 17:03, 13F

05/19 17:35, , 14F
cp25拿出去換菜還比較好重建
05/19 17:35, 14F

05/19 17:44, , 15F
CP25才打一季,還傷傷停停。怎麼一堆人要丟掉他
05/19 17:44, 15F

05/19 17:44, , 16F
球隊就很明白接下來要圍著他重建阿
05/19 17:44, 16F

05/19 17:44, , 17F
((雖然我也不覺得他可以成長到哪裡去
05/19 17:44, 17F

05/19 17:45, , 18F
但有人在一開始瘦竹竿的德老就知道他可以長成現在?
05/19 17:45, 18F

05/19 18:17, , 19F
以現在薪資調漲幅度..幾年後Parsons的約也不貴了
05/19 18:17, 19F

05/19 18:18, , 20F
當年Dampier的約被罵得半死,現在來看平均9M的中鋒
05/19 18:18, 20F

05/19 18:18, , 21F
也還好...未來先發級就是15M左右,巨星20以上
05/19 18:18, 21F

05/19 18:19, , 22F
像Ellis當初簽8M...超佛心
05/19 18:19, 22F

05/19 18:19, , 23F
小牛應該也不會純圍繞CP重建,會慢慢讓陣容年輕化
05/19 18:19, 23F

05/19 18:20, , 24F
撇開受傷不談,Parsos後來練出背框單打+執行最後擊
05/19 18:20, 24F

05/19 18:20, , 25F
能力 他的籃球天分真的很高阿
05/19 18:20, 25F

05/19 18:21, , 26F
不是背框單打,是Dirk那招背框翻身跳投
05/19 18:21, 26F

05/19 19:06, , 27F
有人跟我一樣希望留拳王就好嗎
05/19 19:06, 27F

05/19 19:20, , 28F
搶DJ蠻符合球團要年輕化的方向 只是情感上喜歡拳王
05/19 19:20, 28F

05/19 19:20, , 29F
現階段拳王真的比DJ好 可是他也32了
05/19 19:20, 29F

05/19 19:33, , 30F
Marc Gasol其實也30歲了
05/19 19:33, 30F

05/19 19:45, , 31F
拳王價格如果OK 當然拳王好
05/19 19:45, 31F

05/19 20:36, , 32F
拳王要多少錢嗎? 15M以上?
05/19 20:36, 32F

05/19 20:46, , 33F
快艇可以開到5年108M 其他隊只能開到4年80M
05/19 20:46, 33F

05/19 20:47, , 34F
不過Jordan可以簽兩年約,之後薪資調漲再簽大約
05/19 20:47, 34F

05/19 20:47, , 35F
他大學在德州打的。我覺得錢會是最後的關鍵..
05/19 20:47, 35F

05/19 20:47, , 36F
說實話苦力也不值那個薪水
05/19 20:47, 36F

05/19 21:11, , 37F
薪資漲之後20M差不多=現在的15M 拳王之前也是拿這
05/19 21:11, 37F

05/19 21:12, , 38F
感覺就會有球隊肯出...
05/19 21:12, 38F
還有 118 則推文
05/20 14:43, , 157F
Mo跟lin感覺差不多 Mo三分準一點 lin年輕一點
05/20 14:43, 157F

05/20 14:43, , 158F
Knight看起來最好但機率很低 看起來小貝和cj比較好
05/20 14:43, 158F

05/20 14:44, , 159F
搶 但他們兩個乍看起來不一定會合卡帥胃口@@
05/20 14:44, 159F

05/20 14:46, , 160F
Hinrich感覺會執行球員選項
05/20 14:46, 160F

05/20 14:46, , 161F
Mo在Carlisle底下應該OK,不過找他也是老問題
05/20 14:46, 161F

05/20 14:47, , 162F
防守沒解決 目前完全沒補PG的消息
05/20 14:47, 162F

05/20 14:47, , 163F
可能繼續比照這季打完...?
05/20 14:47, 163F

05/20 14:48, , 164F
如果沒補到pg 留拳王Ellis, 找個年輕的替補禁區和
05/20 14:48, 164F

05/20 14:49, , 165F
會防守的搖擺人 這個暑假也算不錯了啦...
05/20 14:49, 165F

05/20 14:51, , 166F
抽完籤以後 目前DraftExpress我們選Jerian Grant
05/20 14:51, 166F

05/20 14:51, , 167F
大概是這屆少數幾個可看的pg之一(菸)
05/20 14:51, 167F

05/20 15:01, , 168F
看起來身材體能都不差~
05/20 15:01, 168F

05/20 15:07, , 169F
應該抓隻禁區來幫Dirk吧~選PG大概沒位子只能被冰
05/20 15:07, 169F

05/20 15:08, , 170F
Carlisle其實也不愛用禁區新人
05/20 15:08, 170F

05/20 15:09, , 171F
只要教練是Carlisle,選後衛就算合理,只是小牛要決
05/20 15:09, 171F

05/20 15:09, , 172F
定誰留誰走..Felton可能當道期約丟出去
05/20 15:09, 172F

05/20 15:10, , 173F
小牛超愛選後衛阿 而且感覺卡帥比較會帶後衛
05/20 15:10, 173F

05/20 15:11, , 174F
找隻防守潛力好一點的自己養也不錯 不過沒研究選秀
05/20 15:11, 174F

05/20 15:12, , 175F
不知道選到的天花板在哪 感覺我們籤不高應該不好選
05/20 15:12, 175F

05/20 15:54, , 176F
別選PG吧 今年水平不認為有高潛力 選長人或SG
05/20 15:54, 176F

05/20 19:38, , 177F
Robert Upshaw如何?反正不愛養,選個高風險高報酬的
05/20 19:38, 177F

05/20 21:07, , 178F
身材很棒。7-0身高 7-5展臂 但毒蟲加個性問題兩間大
05/20 21:07, 178F

05/20 21:08, , 179F
學都沒念完 要有人可以帶他
05/20 21:08, 179F

05/20 22:17, , 180F
個性有問題Carlisle就不會用了吧
05/20 22:17, 180F

05/22 06:35, , 181F
灰狼的狀元籤似乎可以拿出來交易?我們有菜能換嗎?
05/22 06:35, 181F

05/22 07:12, , 182F
年輕十歲的Dirk
05/22 07:12, 182F

05/22 09:36, , 183F
沒有...狀元籤=明星球員+中後段選秀
05/22 09:36, 183F

05/22 09:36, , 184F
大年狀元籤可以直接換巨星
05/22 09:36, 184F

05/23 20:34, , 185F
CP25+21順位換狀元籤XD
05/23 20:34, 185F

05/23 23:59, , 186F
cp25合約好像交易會額外多付吧 為啥不喜歡他
05/23 23:59, 186F

05/23 23:59, , 187F
他很好用啊 在傷前…
05/23 23:59, 187F

05/24 00:28, , 188F
灰狼最不缺的就是SF PG 我懶得吐槽了...
05/24 00:28, 188F

05/24 12:22, , 189F
灰狼有Wiggins Muhammad 布丁狗 Hummel
05/24 12:22, 189F

05/24 12:22, , 190F
一直想要換掉CP25是怎樣
05/24 12:22, 190F

05/25 11:31, , 191F
先發陣容2.3.5號艾莉絲.CP25.拳王已經融入小牛體系
05/25 11:31, 191F

05/25 11:33, , 192F
暫不提司機的話,最值得投資的就是4號位,1號位能搶
05/25 11:33, 192F

05/25 11:34, , 193F
的好PG太少,不如找個能確實執行戰術的後衛已足,沒
05/25 11:34, 193F

05/25 11:35, , 194F
要把CP25或拳王丟掉,只會增加磨合時間跟風險,CP25
05/25 11:35, 194F

05/25 11:37, , 195F
CP25好好養傷位置還有阿米努可以頂沒甚麼大問題
05/25 11:37, 195F

05/25 15:29, , 196F
同時留下Ellis+拳王也沒錢可以砸了
05/25 15:29, 196F
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