[轉錄][囧 ] Mavs Amateur GM: Constructing …

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http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3436 It’s a nightmare for the Denver Nuggets. It’s a pipedream for the Dallas Mavericks. But stories of Carmelo Anthony and the Nuggets considering a divorce are now everywhere, and so exploring ways for the Mavs to get involved in a Sign-and-Trade for the Nuggets’ superstar? Forgive us our fantasies, but that’s part of what we do. While DallasBasketball.com pokes around to gauge the Mavs’ real-life involvement in this, let’s play Amateur GM: What do the Mavs have to offer to in a Sign-and-Trade for Denver’s Carmelo Anthony? Let’s begin with Denver’s difficult situation. It has on the table an offer of a three-year extension worth $65 mil. That’s a max-money deal for a 26-year-old star who is the face of that franchise … but he’s so far leaving that offer sitting there on that table. We’ll work on the logical assumption that after watching LeBron James leave Cleveland in the dust, Denver will at least consider being preemptive here and consider trading ‘Melo before eventually losing him for virtually nothing. We’ll also work on the assumption that this sort of deal doesn’t really happen until some of our “Artificial Deadlines’’ start popping up. The mid-February trade deadline seems a sensible one here. And before we begin, as always, The Disclaimer: The Mavs front office has done such an admirable job of keeping the team in contention while also accumulating assets. And the commitment made by Mark Cuban to chase a second superstar – a commitment made not only to Dirk Nowitzki but also to the Mavs ’ fan base – is rock-solid. … but comes with no guarantees. As with Chris Paul, this is a player with 30 suitors. There will be endless proposals. And all along, there will be Denver in the driver’s seat to keep him now … and when ‘Melo is free next summer, the player in the driver’s seat on his way to the Knicks or whomever. … Having put down the groundwork … First, why might Denver and Dallas hesitate to do this trade? Denver: 1) Carmelo Anthony. ‘Melo is a very special talent in this league and the face of their franchise who helps bring in the ticket sales. There is a long-standing philosophy held by Mavs GM Donnie Nelson: Once a team possesses a superstar, it must never, ever let him go … because it can take a decade to ever find another. But if ‘Melo is demanding a trade, the Nuggets may not have many options since he has the ability to walk away for nothing this coming summer if he so desires. (And there are so many reports out there that suggest that he does desire to walk away.) 2) Dallas is a conference rival. It seems that this will not be an issue if the business side of things are in favor of a trade to Dallas, but with all else equal one would think this would make a difference. Some organizations factor this into their trade thinking, some do not. 3) Is a deal with Dallas the best return in savings and assets that Denver can get? Dallas: 1) Pending further research into what might be happening behind the scenes, it seems Dallas would be silly to not pursue this with the same vigor that’s been used on Chris Paul. ‘Melo, in any scenario that keeps Dirk on the Mavs, just makes too much basketball and business sense for the Mavs to turn him down. So why would Denver and Dallas consider doing this trade? Denver: 1) If these reports include even a grain of truth, Carmelo Anthony is disgruntled. If the Nuggets don’t act before ‘Melo’s contract is up, they may lose him for nothing or get less than they might have if they were to move him in the coming months. This takes a high level of self-awareness on the part of the Nuggets – a self-awareness that, in retrospect, Cleveland did not have with LeBron. 2) Having the “upper hand” in any deal. If the Nuggets try and move ‘ Melo now they will be at a distinct advantage in regard to getting the most return for their great loss. The closer to next summer that things get, the worse the Nuggets’ negotiating position will get. Having said that: The trigger usually gets pulled in February. Early-season on-court success by the Nuggets can serve as a balm. 3) Savings. Even though the Nuggets have been willing to spend in order to try and win, money is still money and owners like having it. The Nuggets have an opportunity to cut their payroll if they are forced to deal ‘Melo. 4) Future flexibility and assets. In trading with Dallas (and other teams with expiring to give) the Nuggets are in a position to get out of almost any contract they want and to also get young, cheap talent in return (even though the Nuggets don’t have many “bad” contracts). Dallas: 1) Carmelo Anthony as a player who “fits’’ anywhere. Melo is a great player and a big name that would help the success, the notoriety and the business of the Mavs. Even though there are some stats that suggest that ‘ Melo is not an elite player in this league (his highest PER has only been 22.2), he is inarguably a star. In our opinion, ‘Melo is exactly the type of player the Mavs need on offense that can help make room for Dirk to excel – and back to “fit,’’ Anthony would be that sort of player for any club. (Worth noting: He often takes on tough defensive assignments and survives those, too.) If you can get such a star to team up with Dirk, it shouldn’t matter what you have to give up in the process—players like Melo do not become available very often at all. So what might a deal between Denver and Dallas realistically look like? Worth repeating (despite today’s NBA-wide frenzy): There seems to be no rush to do this deal before the season starts. But the closer we get to the February trade deadline, the more things will likely pick up if Melo is still unhappy in Denver. The assets of the Mavs that the Nuggets can pick through and try to mix and match to their liking: 1) $3 million cash 2) 1st round draft picks 3) Expiring contracts: a. Tyson Chandler – 1 year @ $12,600,000 (not available for package trade until Sept 13) b. Caron Butler – 1 year @ $10,811,960 c. DeShawn Stevenson – 1 year @ $4,151,786 d. Jose Juan Barea – 1 year @ $1,749,600 4) Inexpensive, young talent: a. Roddy Beaubois – 4 years @ $1,156,080 / $1,236,720 / $2,227,333 / $3,271,952 b. Dominique Jones – 5 years @ $1,110,120 / $1,193,280 / $1,276,560 / $2,299,085 / $3,377,355 (not available for trade until Aug 13) c. Alexis Ajinca – 3 years @ $1,467,840 / $2,263,409 / $3,243,465 (not available for package trade until Sept 13) d. Ian Mahinmi – 2 years @ $884,293 / $916,100 (not available for trade until Dec 15) The contracts that Denver may want to get rid of: 1) Carmelo Anthony – 2 years @ $17,149,243 / $18,518,574 (early termination option) 2) Chris Andersen – 4 years @ $3,942,000 / $4,234,000 / $4,526,000 / $4,818,000 3) Renaldo Balkman – 3 years @ $1,675,000 / $1,675,000 / $1,675,000 So what trade makes the most sense in our eyes? Dallas IN / Denver OUT: · Carmelo Anthony – 2 years @ $17,149,243 / $18,518,574 (early termination option) · Renaldo Balkman – 3 years @ $1,675,000 / $1,675,000 / $1,675,000 Dallas OUT / Denver IN: · $3 million cash · Two 1st Round draft picks · Roddy Beaubois – 4 years @ $1,156,080 / $1,236,720 / $2,227,333 / $3,271,952 · Caron Butler – 1 year @ $10,811,960 · DeShawn Stevenson – 1 year @ $4,151,786 The resulting Denver core roster: G – Billups, Lawson, Smith, Beaubois F – Martin, Butler, Harrington C – Hilario, Andersen The resulting Dallas core roster: G – Kidd, Terry, Jones F – Nowitzki, Anthony, Marion C – Haywood, Chandler This deal would save the Nuggets about $3 million in salary immediately, would get them $3 million in cash, two 1st round picks, and would not increase their long-term salary. It would create a logjam at guard a little bit (which makes one wonder if Denver would try to look elsewhere for young talent in the front court), but if Roddy B were to play SG, then it would make them legitimately two-deep at each guard position. This trade would also get them an immediate replacement for ‘Melo in the form of Caron Butler. Certainly this is a big downgrade, but it should allow them to continue to be competitive as they explore rebuilding options moving forward. This deal would get Dirk the long-needed companion star in Carmelo Anthony. The Mavs’ depth would be thinned in the process (losing two rotation players and gaining only one in return), but filling a roster with role players is infinitely easier than finding the ever-elusive second star. Conclusion Who knows what will happen as the days, weeks, and months go by, but you watch: the Mavs will at least be in the headline-making conversation if the speculation about ‘Melo wanting out of Denver are true. The Mavs have decent assets as potential trade partners with Denver, but this is a franchise-changing deal for Denver, and the Nuggets have enough right-now leverage to attempt to demand even greater assets from other bidders. There are a lot of moving parts here: Can Anthony leverage his way to New York? … Would he sign an extension upon his arrival in a new city (which we think would be a Mavs must)? … Can Denver made a trade that, like New Orleans with Chris Paul, is designed to pacify its star? At this moment, this is just us playing Amateur GM. Our gut reaction: There is one major obstacle that will keep Carmelo-to-Dallas as nothing more than a pipedream. Our next step: To investigate the thoughts of all this inside Mavs HQ. ... and to pass those on to you. ... 原本不太想po 因為覺得這篇比較偏向幻想文 不過剛剛看到一則消息是說 尼克將要向金塊提出交易Melo 如果金塊有意兜售Melo 那小牛交易到的機會就提升一點點 不過這筆交易要成立是有幾個前題的 首先是金塊確定Melo已經無心續留金塊 且確定要走 如果Melo確定要走那金塊一定會在他合約走完前 想辦法換回一些籌碼 否則後過會跟LBJ離開騎士一樣 第二個前題是小牛提出的交易大於其他隊 畢竟存在於同一個區 球隊不會想要資敵 第三個前題是球隊提供的交易籌碼符合金塊的需求 我想這點也是最基本的 畢竟球星離隊 球隊必須重新找一個人來帶隊 甚至是徹底的重建 所以說以這個前題來說 想交易的球隊必須提供明星 或是有潛力成為明星的球員 目前聽說尼克將要提出的交易名單為 Danilo Gallinari, Eddy Curry and a future first-round draft pick 以這份交易名單來說 我認為小牛是可以提出更好的籌碼 當然更好的籌碼不代表就符合金塊隊的要求 但是如同前面所說 既然有球隊開始提交易 而Melo也許希望出走 那他今年被交易的可能性就大很多 還有一件事必須去注意 就是交易後 確定Melo想待這隊 或是交易至金塊的球員會續約 沒有人希望花高成本去換結果最後球星選擇離隊 既然有球隊已經開始提 小牛不妨也試看看 只是機會不太高就是了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.42.92.173 ※ 編輯: popstarkirby 來自: 114.42.92.173 (08/18 10:15)

08/18 11:05, , 1F
機會感覺真的不高~
08/18 11:05, 1F

08/18 11:18, , 2F
這樣MELO要打哪個位置??
08/18 11:18, 2F

08/18 11:18, , 3F
三號
08/18 11:18, 3F

08/18 11:49, , 4F
如果是要交易Melo來,Marion和Butler肯定至少走一個
08/18 11:49, 4F

08/18 11:50, , 5F
這樣就不用擔心三號太擠,不過二號問題一樣存在。
08/18 11:50, 5F

08/18 12:12, , 6F
反正小牛今年比較有價格的交易籌碼就這些了...如果有
08/18 12:12, 6F

08/18 12:13, , 7F
傳言應該脫離不了這些人
08/18 12:13, 7F

08/18 12:19, , 8F
真的是幻想文...甜瓜比較想當一哥吧..
08/18 12:19, 8F

08/18 13:44, , 9F
現在比較流行當二弟
08/18 13:44, 9F

08/18 13:56, , 10F
我覺得西區強隊都沒啥機會 如果真的把melo交易到小牛
08/18 13:56, 10F

08/18 13:57, , 11F
那金塊還要重建嗎 不是被小牛巴掉就是湖人巴掉. 囧?
08/18 13:57, 11F

08/18 14:11, , 12F
這樣換來還是3號 不如就別動吧
08/18 14:11, 12F

08/18 14:41, , 13F
換到大賺,連未來重建都不用擔憂了
08/18 14:41, 13F

08/18 14:42, , 14F
如果Butler是A+ Melo是S
08/18 14:42, 14F

08/18 15:29, , 15F
我覺得尼克那個也幻想KM到期約~NENE跟槍西是TEAM OPT
08/18 15:29, 15F

08/18 15:31, , 16F
JR.SMITH也是到期約~NENE是PLAYER OPT
08/18 15:31, 16F

08/18 15:32, , 17F
砍一砍團隊薪資不到兩千萬~到期爛約一點價值都沒有
08/18 15:32, 17F

08/18 15:33, , 18F
小牛快用即戰力去換吧~今年禁區驚人 缺一個關鍵S咖
08/18 15:33, 18F

08/18 15:33, , 19F
加油杯~~~~ 想看Melo拿冠軍
08/18 15:33, 19F

08/18 15:43, , 20F
Chadler+Butler 兩張到期約 換 Melo
08/18 15:43, 20F

08/18 16:00, , 21F

08/18 16:01, , 22F
金塊明年是薪資空間第一名的球隊到期約時再沒啥誘因
08/18 16:01, 22F

08/18 17:24, , 23F
換到的話至少往後幾年都不用擔心在西區的競爭力了
08/18 17:24, 23F

08/18 19:22, , 24F
快換快換~
08/18 19:22, 24F

08/18 21:15, , 25F
雖然SG還是有問題,抖腳還需要一段時間才能站穩吧
08/18 21:15, 25F

08/18 21:16, , 26F
不過若能挖來S級的SF也很棒了!!!
08/18 21:16, 26F

08/19 00:24, , 27F
倒是覺得可以試看看勇士的艾莉絲 甜瓜來得分點也太多
08/19 00:24, 27F
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