[情報] Mariners 2011 Top 20 Prospects in Review

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by John Sickels on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT This is a review of the 2011 Pre-Season Top 20 list. IT IS NOT A NEW LIST. The 2012 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book. 1) Michael Pineda, RHP, Grade A: 3.53 ERA, 133/43 K/BB in 130 innings for the Mariners, 97 hits. An outstanding rookie campaign. 2) Dustin Ackley, 2B, Grade A-: Hit .303/.431/.487 in 271 Triple-A at-bats. So far, .293/.360/.516 with 17 walks, 23 strikeouts in 157 major league at-bats. As with Pineda, he's been everything the Mariners could have hoped for. 3) Nick Franklin, SS, Grade B: .275/.356/.411 with 31 walks, 56 strikeouts, 13 steals in 14 attempts for High-A High Desert. 9-for-15 in Double-A until sidelined by jaw injury and food poisoning. Although I thought he would hit better at High Desert, at age 20 he still has plenty of time to develop on both offense and defense. 4) Taijuan Walker, RHP, Grade B-: 3.04 ERA with 110/38 K/BB in 92 innings for Low-A Clinton, 65 hits, 1.48 GO/AO. Excellent stuff, more polish than expected, among the elite pitching prospects in the game now. Superb K/IP, H/IP and grounder combination. 5) Mauricio Robles, LHP, Grade B-: 8.91 ERA with 23/33 K/BB in 32 innings between High-A, Double-A, and Triple-A. Season crippled by elbow problems and command collapse. 6) Alex Liddi, 3B, Grade B-: Hitting .263/.335/.506 with 25 homers, 50 walks, 141 strikeouts for Tacoma. Defense has improved, power looks good, but strikeout rate is too high for comfort. 7) Guillermo Pimentel, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .275/.321/.450 with eight homers, 11 walks, 52 strikeouts in 171 at-bats for Pulaski in the rookie-level Appalachian League. Walk rate has doubled compared to last year, still strikes out a lot, lots of power, young at age 18. 8) Johermyn Chavez, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .216/.304/.363 with 12 homers, 37 walks, 106 strikeouts in 375 at-bats for Double-A Jackson. It looks like 2010 was a High Desert illusion but he is still young enough at 22 to figure things out. 9) Kyle Seager, 3B-2B, Grade C+: .312/.381/.459 with 26 walks, 38 strikeouts in 266 at-bats for Jackson, .387/.444/.585 with 11 walks, 12 strikeouts in 106 at-bats for Tacoma, went 5-for-34 (.147) in 11 major league games. Pure hitting skills will get him more chances. 10) James Jones, OF, Grade C+: Played better after a slow start, up to .247/.347/.378 with 42 walks, 92 strikeouts, 16 steals in 296 at-bats for High Desert. Went on disabled list July 23rd, unfortunate given he was on a hot streak (.359/.446/.538 in July). 11) Dan Cortes, RHP, Grade C+: 5.35 ERA with 45/27 K/BB in 37 innings for Tacoma, 43 hits. Has walked three in three major league innings, with four hits and two runs. Has always had the stuff, command is the issue. 12) Marcus Littlewood, SS, Grade C+: Hit just .158/.236/.211 in 27 games for Low-A Clinton. .227/.333/.374 in 163 at-bats for short-season Everett, 25 walks, 54 strikeouts. Error-prone on defense. So far, not living up to expectations, but it is early at age 19. 13) Ramon Morla, 3B, Grade C+: .312/.375/.473 in 93 at-bats for Everett, .170/.196/.255 in 106 at-bats for Clinton with four walks and 28 strikeouts. Good range at third base but error-prone. At age 21, he has less slack than Littlewood. 14) Nate Tenbrink, 3B-OF, Grade C+: .218/.337/.403 with 34 walks, 60 strikeouts, 11 steals in 211 at-bats for Jackson. On DL since late June. 15) Ji-Man Choi, C-1B, Grade C+: Has been out all season with back and shoulder problems. 16) Blake Beavan, RHP, Grade C+: 4.45 ERA with 64/20 K/BB in 93 innings for Tacoma, 2.83 ERA with 17/6 K/BB in 41 innings for the Mariners, 39 hits. He's efficient but hittable, must have a good defense and a friendly park behind him. 17) Vince Catricala, 3B-1B, Grade C+: .351/.421/.574 with 33 walks, 45 strikeouts in 282 at-bats for High Desert, .354/.412/.592 in 147 at-bats for Jackson, 13 walks, 28 strikeouts. Has also stolen 13 bases. Not great at third base, but the bat looks real, 18) Esteilon Peguero, SS, Grade C+: Hitting .282/.309/.394 in the Arizona Rookie League, four walks, 19 strikeouts, 17 steals in 142 at-bats. Error prone on defense, but that's hardly critical at age 17. Needs to improve plate discipline. 19) Stephen Pryor, RHP, Grade C+: 7.67 ERA with 34/26 K/BB in 27 innings for High Desert. He was promoted to Jackson anyway and has been excellent there, 1.29 ERA with 20/5 K/BB in 14 innings, four hits. Very interesting that he struggled so badly in the Cal League but has been terrific in Double-A. 20) Josh Lueke, RHP, Grade C+: Effective in Triple-A, 2.76 ERA with 35/12 K/BB in 42 innings, 11 saves. Horrible in the majors, 18 hits and 15 runs allowed in 13 innings, with 15/8 K/BB. Arm strength remains intriguing. Pineda and Ackley are the headliners of course, and Walker has developed rapidly into one of the top pitching prospects in the game. The rest of the list is mixed, but when you successfully graduate two impact players to the majors in one year, and both adjust well, it's a good year. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 203.73.50.142

08/13 22:43, , 1F
Liddi加油阿ˊˋ 突破我門家三壘的詛咒
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08/13 22:45, , 2F
3) Nick Franklin, SS, Grade B 私心希望他可以和Ackley
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08/13 22:45, , 3F
一樣跳到A- =_=有夢最美啊!!!!
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08/13 22:47, , 4F
Franklin是吃什麼東西可以下巴受傷+食物中毒 = =..
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08/13 23:05, , 5F
希望前六個都能好好長大,這樣就不太需要擔憂未來
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08/13 23:10, , 6F
我必須插播一下某個在AA抓狂的傢伙,就在大家覺得今年選
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08/13 23:11, , 7F
進的Danny Hultzen會成為水兵輪值左投第一號,升上AA的
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08/13 23:12, , 8F
James Paxton在最近這兩場六局跟七局的先發各丟出10K
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08/13 23:12, , 9F
升上AA後的六場先發,在39 IP裡丟出了51K,原本BB過多的
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08/13 23:13, , 10F
情況也改善不少,39IP丟出13個BB,對手AVG是0.201
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08/13 23:14, , 11F
他如果能這樣丟到小聯盟球季結束,他可能會殺上水手體系
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08/13 23:15, , 12F
農場前五名(扣除掉今年升上來的Pineda跟Ackley)
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08/13 23:26, , 13F
如果他這樣丟到季末 Walker再來就他了
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08/13 23:26, , 14F
請問一下今年選秀簽的怎樣啦?
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08/13 23:27, , 15F
我知道咱們榜眼還沒簽下就是
08/13 23:27, 15F

08/14 00:10, , 16F
第三輪的Kevin Cron大概簽不下來了,據說他已經跟TCU提出
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08/14 00:11, , 17F
就讀意向書,應該會去念大學= =
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08/14 00:11, , 18F
Paxton再觀察一下比較好,他到目前為止沒有遇上
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08/14 00:13, , 19F
Southern League打擊比較強的幾支球隊,對成績要稍微
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08/14 00:13, , 20F
保留一點,不過以現階段而言已經很好了
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08/14 00:14, , 21F
Hultzen簽下來應該沒問題,留到明年他也不會有更好的
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08/14 00:15, , 22F
身價了,沒意外的話應該會比照Ackley給他一張大聯盟約
08/14 00:15, 22F

08/14 00:15, , 23F
Paxton是吃到仙丹嘛= =
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08/14 00:16, , 24F
他本來就有第一輪的實力,只是價碼談不攏才會多拖一年
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08/14 00:16, , 25F
也掉到第四輪
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08/14 00:19, , 26F
Kevin Cron沒拿下來很虧,他的天份可能比他老哥高Orz
08/14 00:19, 26F

08/14 00:20, , 27F
然後又是TCU,前年Purke也是跑去TCU....-_-
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08/14 00:21, , 28F
看球探長最後這三天能不能想辦法扭轉吧,本來Cron一度接
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08/14 00:21, , 29F
近談成要簽了,結果TCU那幾間學校又殺進來亂-_-
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08/14 00:22, , 30F
然後都沒有人在意第二輪那一個到底簽不簽得下來XD
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08/14 00:25, , 31F
MI老實講農場量很多,只是除了Franklin以外沒有能讓人
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08/14 00:26, , 32F
然後我另外好奇的一點是投手養成這個樣子,Rendon的情況
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08/14 00:26, , 33F
安心的,不過這麼多洗出一兩個不是問題
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08/14 00:26, , 34F
到底是多慘才會讓JZ在今年捨棄他選了Hultzen?
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08/14 00:27, , 35F
我的猜測應該不是打擊因素,防守上的問題成分比較大
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08/14 00:28, , 36F
Hultzen再快頂多就是13年上來頂輪值,Paxton按照這速度
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08/14 00:29, , 37F
Z可能認為他的傷會讓他最終要轉往一壘或二壘
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08/14 00:29, , 38F
說不定明年九月就上了,投手輪值其實還滿夠用
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08/14 00:29, , 39F
Cron如果簽不下來真得是蠻虧的,不然C這個位置說不定就不
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08/14 00:29, , 40F
用煩惱,TCU不要跟我們搶人啦
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08/14 00:30, , 41F
他的守備橫移速度好像不快吧?加上腳踝傷,守2B難度不低
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08/14 00:31, , 42F
Cron他老哥今年進來馬上屠殺SS,結果受傷Otz
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08/14 00:31, , 43F
如果真的有傷,我看Rendon最後應該只有1B可以站
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08/14 00:32, , 44F
C.J. Cron簽約前天使就知道他有傷了,本來預定打完這季
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08/14 00:32, , 45F
動用親情攻勢,好兄弟不同隊嗎?
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08/14 00:32, , 46F
才去開刀,沒想到天算不如人算
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08/14 00:32, , 47F
說到食物中毒,我們家今年是怎樣啊?從Guti開始大家腸胃
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08/14 00:33, , 48F
都不好是怎樣啊?Orz
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08/14 00:33, , 49F
我覺得挖他老爸比較快,他老爸是白襪補教
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08/14 00:34, , 50F
挖老爹過來順便升個官,看能不能把兒子價碼算便宜點
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08/14 00:34, , 51F
其實看今年的交易可以看出Z可能會在季末大幹一票,也許
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08/14 00:35, , 52F
其實這條打線就缺兩個:一個開路先鋒,一個穩定大棒子
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08/14 00:35, , 53F
同時補上DH和LF位置,反正現在2,3A野手爆滿,拿一些出去
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08/14 00:36, , 54F
DH應該就是瞄準小王子了,普神我是覺得免肖想=__=
08/14 00:36, 54F

08/14 00:36, , 55F
弄支大棒子很值得,如果FA也肯花錢的話,一次補完有可能
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08/14 00:36, , 56F
LF如果Carp能維持這樣的打擊手感,給他沒差,反正他左邊
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08/14 00:37, , 57F
那個是超人可以cover他一點
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08/14 00:38, , 58F
一朗明年最好把他出賽壓在140場內,要不然第一棒也欠人
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08/14 00:39, , 59F
我猜可能會被擺上交易桌的:小三,Halman,Triunfel
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08/14 00:39, , 60F
壓上Triunfel的話,代表JZ把所有MI希望壓在Franklin身上
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08/14 00:40, , 61F
Liddi,Vasquez,Laffey,Poythress
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08/14 00:41, , 62F
丟Liddi?這也賭太大了,這是目前離3B最近的一個解答Orz
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08/14 00:41, , 63F
Triunfel的問題在他今年要擺進40人了,但他的成績沒明顯
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08/14 00:42, , 64F
提升,防守上問題也不小
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08/14 00:43, , 65F
Liddi只是可以談,除非能拿到即戰力補上3B,LF,DH之一
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08/14 00:43, , 66F
不然Z應該不會輕易放手
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08/14 07:33, , 67F
我還是覺得跟老虎那筆交易很爛,我們不缺LF,Fister應該可以
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08/14 07:36, , 68F
c,或cf的新秀,雖然wells也可以守cf,至於martinez我覺得
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08/14 07:37, , 69F
跟我們家那個martinez比,我並不覺得會差到那裏去
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08/14 08:32, , 70F
現在下面唯一能頂LF的應該只有Saunders吧,後門、屁股肉
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08/14 08:33, , 71F
和Wilson根本不成氣候,鯉的守備也會不是LF長期方案
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08/14 08:34, , 72F
我是覺得我們OF深度沒有想像中的深,反而已經敲響警鐘了
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08/14 08:35, , 73F
LF長年來是個洞,Guti狀況又是未知數,Ichiro最多也就打
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08/14 08:36, , 74F
到明年,如果明年Guti還是擺爛的話後年OF三格都開天窗
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08/14 08:46, , 75F
還有cartricala可以頂一下,一朗退化和古提肚子痛已成事實
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08/14 08:48, , 76F
他的打擊沒啥問題,守備要比carp差大概很難,我是比較希望把
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08/14 08:50, , 77F
wells和martinez換一隻比較優秀的cf,rf,或c而不是可能變
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08/14 08:50, , 78F
成泡沫的希望,這個東西水手農場已經夠多了
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08/14 08:53, , 79F
今年JACK Z給我的感覺是急了點,雖然農場投手還夠,但可以
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08/14 08:54, , 80F
不用那麼趕,以731這個我們佔優勢的時間點,大概那個平手
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08/14 08:55, , 81F
的局面,應該是很多人會有點失望
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08/14 09:00, , 82F
Cartricala的防守可能和WMP有得拼,Carp搞不好會完勝他
08/14 09:00, 82F

08/14 09:01, , 83F
他的打擊看來是真貨,但是要轉外野很難,大概還是1B/DH
08/14 09:01, 83F

08/14 09:02, , 84F
的料,至於捕手,我想Z應該很想要Smyly,但是老虎不肯給
08/14 09:02, 84F

08/14 09:04, , 85F
Fister也沒有好到可以讓老虎把農場開給你挑
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08/14 09:04, , 86F
我不覺得Z在這交易裡有甚麼失敗的,反而是Bedard那筆交易
08/14 09:04, 86F

08/14 09:05, , 87F
拿的有點少
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08/14 09:06, , 88F
Cartricala的防守這麼慘喔= =,感覺他腿比較快應該比幾乎
08/14 09:06, 88F

08/14 09:07, , 89F
沒再守外野的carp會好一點,救援投手等再回神的pryor,和
08/14 09:07, 89F

08/14 09:08, , 90F
moran應該是夠用的,fister留到季後也很好賣,大多數人會
08/14 09:08, 90F

08/14 09:09, , 91F
希望拿一個比較好的就好,也不用一捆送過來
08/14 09:09, 91F

08/14 09:10, , 92F
Carp在3A好歹守了一季以上的LF,至少有足夠經驗
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08/14 09:10, , 93F
我倒是希望這兩個交易連發生都不用,等季後再說就好
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08/14 09:11, , 94F
Cat現在的問題就是沒個守比較好的位置,目前是暫時擺LF
08/14 09:11, 94F

08/14 09:25, , 95F
cat應該是LF定了,一般原守位沒守好,就有可能根據球隊的策
08/14 09:25, 95F

08/14 09:26, , 96F
略運作
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08/14 12:50, , 97F
Cron的原來的傷跟現在讓他進DL的傷是不一樣的..
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08/14 12:57, , 98F
我知道,我的意思是你們的運氣不太好,事情沒有辦法
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照計畫走
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