[討論] Carlos Peguero

看板Mariners作者時間13年前 (2011/06/18 20:25), 編輯推噓28(28021)
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http://0rz.tw/QjdhW Suffice to say that, when the Mariners brought up Carlos Peguero and stuck him in an outfield platoon, most of us were fairly skeptical. We were excited to watch Peguero, because Peguero was a new young player and new young players are always exciting, but our hopes weren't very high, because as strong as Peguero is, he didn't exactly come with much of a minor league track record. In high-A, he struck out more than four times as often as he walked. In AA, he struck out more than three times as often as he walked. In AAA, he struck out nearly four times as often as he walked. Peguero was strong, but he was undisciplined and unpolished, and he looked like the kind of guy who'd come up, post an OBP around .220, and head back down, a discouraged shell of a man. 我只想說,當水手隊拉上屁股肉進入外野位置,大部分的球迷都對他有些懷疑,青春 肉體總是令人興奮,但我們對他的期待可沒有太高,雖然他很強壯,但他小聯盟的紀 錄倒是不讓人驚艷。在高階 A,他的被三振數超過保送數的四倍,在AA,他的被三振 數超過保送數的三倍,在 AAA,他的被三振數則是接近保送數的四倍。他很強壯,但 是沒有選球也尚待琢磨,感覺他會上來一下,交出.220左右的上壘率,然後就會回去 Tacoma。 And for some time, Peguero fulfilled our expectations. He hit a couple home runs, including a big one out of nowhere against Fausto Carmona that broke up a no-hitter, but at the end of May, his OBP was .210, and he had 22 strikeouts in 62 Major League trips to the plate. Peguero looked lost, and he looked like he was on the verge of returning to Tacoma, perhaps in exchange for Mike Carp. 有的時候,屁股肉達到了我們對他的期待,幹了幾炮、壞了 Carmona無安打的好事, 但到了五月底,他的上壘率是.210,62個打席裡被K掉22次,他看起來有點迷惘,一 副要回 Tacoma 跟 Mike Carp 交換工作的樣子。 Then things turned around a little bit. Peguero went deep twice against the Rays on June 2nd. Soon thereafter he posted a three-game hit streak, which is notable for a guy like him. And he started looking better to the eye. Over the past few weeks, Peguero has not only been a more successful hitter - he's looked like a more selective hitter. 但接著峰迴路轉,6/2 屁股肉對上光芒隊雙響,接著連三場安打,這對他來說可是值 得大書特書的事情,然後他的眼睛好像變利了,過去幾周,屁股肉不僅是個更為進步 的打者,也是個更為有耐心的打者。 And it shows up in the numbers. Let's ignore Peguero's brief time with the team in April, and focus on his time as a semi-regular in May and June. Data comes courtesy of Fangraphs, with OSwing% referring to Peguero's rate of swings at pitches out of the zone, ZSwing% referring to Peguero's rate of swings at pitches in the zone, and Contact% referring to Peguero's rate of hitting the ball when he swings. 這東西在數據上顯示了出來, 先略過短暫的四月不談,把焦點放在他較為固定出賽的五六月。 Month O-Swing% Z-Swing% Contact% May 55% 79% 68% June 41% 75% 73% The first thing to know is that we're limited by the quality of the data, and the data isn't perfect. These numbers aren't necessarily 100% accurate. But they're close, and the sample sizes aren't tiny. 這數據有其限制亦非完美,但它們已經接近準確,樣本數也不是太小。 And what we see is that Peguero has improved. The recent version of Peguero is still aggressive. He still has some of the higher swing rates in baseball. But in May, his O-Swing% was the highest. His overall Swing% was the highest. His Contact% was third-lowest. His June numbers don't stand out so much. His O-Swing% is high, but reasonable. His Contact% is low, but reasonable. 屁股肉進步了,最近的他出棒依舊積極,五月他的壞球出棒率(O-Swing%)跟出棒率 (Swing%)都是聯盟最高、擊中率(Contact%)則是倒數第三,六月他的數字就沒那 麼扯了,O-Swing%很高但不嚇人,Contact%還是很低但不會被人笑。 Carlos Peguero looks like he's learning, which goes along with the coaching staff's statements that he's proven to be coachable. Over the past few weeks, he has not been the mess that he was. 屁股肉看來正在學習,從教練團言論中屁股肉似乎頗為受教,過去幾週,他不像先前 那樣一團糟。 How much does it all mean? We'll have to see if this sticks, first of all. Improvements must not only be made, but sustained. Additionally, Peguero's still in a platoon, so it's not like he's suddenly emerging as a top young player. But we're looking at an aggressive, powerful 24-year-old who struck out 33% of the time in May, and 23% of the time so far in June. That's exciting, because Peguero's gotten better, and the improvement suggests he could get better still. 這代表什麼呢?我們得看看這現象能否維持。 屁股肉不是只有進步就好,還要持續進步,另外他仍受到 platoon 的保護,還不是個 突然冒出頭的頂級年輕好手。但我們可以看見這個24歲的重砲手五月被三振率是33%, 六月則是降到了23%,這很令人興奮,屁股肉的進步顯示他可以越來越屌。 I'm not wild about Carlos Peguero, and I'm not convinced he has a great future in the Major Leagues, but I like him now more than I used to. There's a good player in there, and there are signs that the Mariners may be tracking him down. 我不是屁股肉的粉絲,也不覺得他為未來會嚇嚇叫,但我現在喜歡他更甚以往。水兵可 以好好盯著這個好手的發展了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 123.204.102.178

06/18 21:03, , 1F
出棒率聯盟最高但擊中率倒數第三..我笑慘了~"~
06/18 21:03, 1F

06/18 21:03, , 2F
太可愛了~屁股肉!!! 感謝翻譯推~ 屁股肉魂!!!!
06/18 21:03, 2F

06/18 21:10, , 3F
推 好文~~
06/18 21:10, 3F

06/18 21:11, , 4F
大概長成 A.Soriano 就算有賺了
06/18 21:11, 4F

06/18 21:33, , 5F
大家怕被屁股肉貓到 但是都覺得苦主應該不是我
06/18 21:33, 5F

06/18 21:39, , 6F
不得不推樓上那句XDDDD 今天推土機就差點被貓出去
06/18 21:39, 6F

06/18 22:15, , 7F
Peguero以他的態度是值得肯定的,從他有一次平飛球跑壘就可
06/18 22:15, 7F

06/18 22:17, , 8F
以看得出來,Saunders天分比他更棒,但這陣子打不出來除了
06/18 22:17, 8F

06/18 22:18, , 9F
姿勢被改,和攻擊策略出了問題,態度也跟Peguero有點落差
06/18 22:18, 9F

06/18 22:18, , 10F
Jack Z在休季點名的那幾個,真的不像空穴來風
06/18 22:18, 10F

06/18 22:21, , 11F
但Peguero扛中心棒次似乎還有點太早了
06/18 22:21, 11F

06/18 22:50, , 12F
長成 A.Soriano賺死了吧
06/18 22:50, 12F

06/18 23:01, , 13F
壞球出棒率~~~~XD
06/18 23:01, 13F

06/18 23:09, , 14F
JZ 說了啥= =? D大話不要講一半XDDDD
06/18 23:09, 14F

06/18 23:11, , 15F
5268篇
06/18 23:11, 15F

06/18 23:11, , 16F
樓上不知道嗎?這事季前鬧很大,爬個文說不定可以爬到。
06/18 23:11, 16F

06/18 23:14, , 17F
屁股肉風力雖然有點強,至少有時能把球吹出牆!
06/18 23:14, 17F

06/18 23:21, , 18F
推翻譯XDD
06/18 23:21, 18F

06/18 23:45, , 19F
回去看5268感覺真是先知
06/18 23:45, 19F

06/19 00:49, , 20F
我個人還是覺得小三很有希望,他應該是可以接先發OF的
06/19 00:49, 20F

06/19 00:49, , 21F
雖然今年打成這鬼樣子......
06/19 00:49, 21F

06/19 01:26, , 22F
喔喔= = 這篇有看過 但是已經忘記了Orz
06/19 01:26, 22F

06/19 03:48, , 23F
小三現在要再上MLB,不太容易,這兩年給的打數很多了
06/19 03:48, 23F

06/19 04:00, , 24F
JZ應該沒想到當初簽Olivo,現在變捕手砲!!!
06/19 04:00, 24F

06/19 09:01, , 25F
推翻譯!!看到水兵小將有所成長真令人開心!
06/19 09:01, 25F

06/19 09:03, , 26F
小三再上來目前來看只是時間問題,如果Guti繼續低潮
06/19 09:03, 26F

06/19 09:04, , 27F
Guti低潮,手套也比小三好...
06/19 09:04, 27F

06/19 09:09, , 28F
那好是多少?頂多就一場一兩個SUPER play而已
06/19 09:09, 28F

06/19 09:10, , 29F
現在Guti沒被檢討是因為大家體諒他生病
06/19 09:10, 29F

06/19 09:11, , 30F
如果他持續低潮到七月甚至八月,光酸Figgy不酸他就很不
06/19 09:11, 30F

06/19 09:12, , 31F
公平,要知道在Guti回來前,球隊手套最好的三個位置
06/19 09:12, 31F

06/19 09:13, , 32F
剛好就是CF,3B和SS,小三是比不上Guti,但那個差距
06/19 09:13, 32F

06/19 09:13, , 33F
很有限,小到只要小三打擊打出Guti生涯的水準就可以逆轉
06/19 09:13, 33F

06/19 09:19, , 34F
小三今年吃了152 PA,要是打擊有一定水準,也不會被下放
06/19 09:19, 34F

06/19 09:20, , 35F
多一兩個Super play,看比賽至少也比較爽
06/19 09:20, 35F

06/19 09:21, , 36F
降3A就是要調整的,而目前在Tacoma的成績還不錯......
06/19 09:21, 36F

06/19 09:21, , 37F
這個嗎Guti現在已經打了大概小三60%的PA了,兩個人的OPS
06/19 09:21, 37F

06/19 09:22, , 38F
幾乎是一樣的,都比被酸爆的Figgy差,而且小三的美技
06/19 09:22, 38F

06/19 09:22, , 39F
在Guti受傷期間也沒少到哪裡去
06/19 09:22, 39F

06/19 09:27, , 40F
要是只能打出Guti生涯水準,請給更好的理由把Guti換掉
06/19 09:27, 40F

06/19 09:29, , 41F
不然手套沒比較好,打擊最多一樣,有這麼容易就放板凳?
06/19 09:29, 41F

06/19 09:30, , 42F
guti的約至少到2014
06/19 09:30, 42F

06/19 09:30, , 43F
能打出Guti生涯水準就大勝現在的Guti了
06/19 09:30, 43F

06/19 09:31, , 44F
而且小三打好誰說一定要放CF,LF還空著呢
06/19 09:31, 44F

06/19 09:31, , 45F
"現在",之前的小三自己沒把握好.....
06/19 09:31, 45F

06/19 09:32, , 46F
現在競爭LF那幾個都不見得能站穩,說小三沒機會太武斷了
06/19 09:32, 46F

06/19 09:32, , 47F
你前面說的很像是小三頂Guti的位置呀 XD
06/19 09:32, 47F

06/19 11:10, , 48F
說的是小三頂Guti位置+1= = 怎麼最後一句變LF.....
06/19 11:10, 48F

06/19 11:15, , 49F
感覺像左打的Sexson
06/19 11:15, 49F
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