Re: [問題] Jwari Shapeshifter的進場效應

看板Magic作者 (高原之狼)時間15年前 (2010/03/18 04:05), 編輯推噓3(3013)
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→ jackshai:我放變形獸直接喊我要copy XXX 事後說我是bluff 03/18 02:19 → jackshai:這樣不行 囧? 03/18 02:19 → plateauwolf:這不叫 bluff。 03/18 03:54 → plateauwolf:最新的規則裡有 shortcut (捷徑) 的定義,你施放是就 03/18 03:55 → plateauwolf:說要複製什麼,裁判完全有理由認為這是使用捷徑。 03/18 03:55 既然是認真的討論,就來引一下憑據: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Events.aspx?x=dci/doccenter/home M:TG Tournament Rules 4.2 Tournament Shortcuts * If a player casts a spell or activates an ability and announces choices for it that are not normally made until resolution, the player must adhere to those choices unless an opponent responds to that spell or ability. If an opponent inquires about choices made during resolution, that player is assumed to be passing priority and allowing that spell or ability to resolve. 所以如果你施放時就說了你要複製什麼,對手又沒插手做任何事,那你就要實行你 當初說的選擇,不能反悔。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 128.42.155.12

03/18 09:50, , 1F
先問一下....我抓的是 2010/1/1的tournament
03/18 09:50, 1F

03/18 09:50, , 2F
怎麼沒有這段....?
03/18 09:50, 2F

03/18 09:50, , 3F
因為昨天晚上我就研究過了= =
03/18 09:50, 3F

03/18 09:53, , 4F
看到了 在細項...我研究研究~
03/18 09:53, 4F

03/18 10:11, , 5F
那如果沒說要複製,單純施放的時候喊了XXX...
03/18 10:11, 5F

03/18 10:11, , 6F
事後說我只是喊了個生物的名稱,沒要複製他勒?
03/18 10:11, 6F

03/18 10:18, , 7F
除非你平時就有沒事喊生物名字的習慣,否則恐怕沒有哪
03/18 10:18, 7F

03/18 10:18, , 8F
個裁判會接受這種解釋。
03/18 10:18, 8F

03/18 10:19, , 9F
我現在的問題是...這樣就算fraud嗎= =?
03/18 10:19, 9F

03/18 10:20, , 10F
第4章裡面沒有講到罰則 還是裁判高興都可以判fraud = =?
03/18 10:20, 10F

03/18 10:20, , 11F
這樣你會被你朋友先蓋腦
03/18 10:20, 11F

03/18 10:27, , 12F
罰則要看 Infraction Procedure Guide。
03/18 10:27, 12F

03/18 10:40, , 13F
也是沒有講阿= = 單純的shortcut違反會變成fraud嗎= =?
03/18 10:40, 13F

03/18 10:41, , 14F
頂多算gameplay error吧= =?
03/18 10:41, 14F

03/18 11:30, , 15F
回頭完完整整看一遍...其實shortcut算是optional
03/18 11:30, 15F

03/18 11:33, , 16F
主要來自於玩家的"約定成俗",給你方便用的....
03/18 11:33, 16F
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