[外電] What's Wrong with Tanaka?

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※ [本文轉錄自 NY-Yankees 看板 #1PB-blhW ] 作者: zyx12320 (zyx12320) 看板: NY-Yankees 標題: [外電] What's Wrong with Tanaka? 時間: Thu Jun 1 18:16:12 2017 source: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/whats-wrong-with-tanaka/ 上禮拜的文 今天在推文看到想說就來翻翻 簡短翻譯有誤請不吝指正 可以開好讀我有重傳圖 https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1496313221.A.75F.html 前兩段省略 Said Yankees manager Joe Girardi to MLB.com after Tanaka’s latest rough outing Saturday: “We know that he has to make adjustments, and that’s where our focus is,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. “This guy’s got a really good track record. He’s had a lot of success here, so it’s not like he’s just coming over from Japan and struggling. He’s in a rut now, and we think we’ve discovered a few things that will help him and will continue to help him.” 老吉在5/20田中的慘烈表現後說 "我們知道他必須做出調整,這正是我們致力去做的。田中有相當好的紀錄, 也在這獲得了不少的成果,現在並不是他剛從日本來而掙扎,他是陷入了某種困境, 而我們發現了幾個方法可以幫助他並會持續地對他有益。" This spring in Florida I was asked to be the “stats guy” for a documentary on Tanaka being filmed by a Japanese studio. I met with the film crew and interviewer at a hotel room in Bradenton, Florida, in March. They wanted me to explore via my laptop — and on camera — what allowed Tanaka to be successful at the major-league level. Tanaka has used location, a variety of pitches, and movement to succeed in the majors despite lacking elite velocity. The film crew had relayed to me that Tanaka said he was trying to rely less on his four-seam fastball and become more of a sinker-slider-splitter pitcher to survive in the cramped AL East ballparks. Tanaka has been hurt by home runs and he did move away from the four-seamer last season, throwing a splitter on a career-high 30.2% of offerings and a slider at a career-best rate 27.5%. Only about 6% of his pitches were classified by PITCHf/x as four-seam fastballs. This season, though, his splitter and slider usage is down. He’s had a history of elbow issues. 田中雖然球速不快,但靠著進壘點、多種球路以及好的位移,讓他得以在大聯盟生存。 他試著降低對四縫的依賴,主要靠伸卡(二縫)-滑球-指叉來在危險的美東球場生存。 田中一直為全壘打所苦,而去年他的確少丟四縫了,指叉跟滑球的使用率都是生涯最高的 30.2%和27.5%,四縫的使用率則只剩下6%左右。但今年指叉跟滑球的使用率卻減少,可能 跟手肘的傷病史有關。 This season, just about everything is trending in the wrong direction for Tanaka. Consider his slugging versus pitch type by month over the last two seasons: He’s getting crushed by lefties (.352 wOBA), but he’s being hit even more forcefully by righties (.411). 這一季所有事情都朝著錯誤的方向前進,先來看看從前兩年到現在各球種的被長打率。 田中被左打痛打(.352 wOBA),但面對右打的表現更為慘烈(.411) http://imgur.com/j7fC2tg
Tanaka’s trouble appears to be twofold: he’s relying less on his two best pitchers — his slider and splitter — decreasing their combined usage from 58% last year to 47%. He’s throwing his four-seam fastball more. And he’s not locating as well with his fastball and splitter. 田中的問題有兩個面向:他降低了他最好的兩個球種(指叉和滑球)的使用率,使用率 總和從去年的58%降低到今年的47%,增加了四縫的使用率。此外,他也不再能很好地 控制速球和指叉的進壘點。 下圖是2017年 四縫VS左打者 http://imgur.com/tLx2tum
下圖是2017年 四縫VS右打者 http://imgur.com/MWhZRbD
Tanaka has 24.3% home-run rate per fly ball (HR/FB), and he’s already allowed three home runs off his four-seam fastball, a pitch he didn’t throw often last season. The pitch has merely average velocity and spin, and he cannot afford to miss with it. 田中今年的HR/FB是24.3%(譯按:14~16平均14.1%),四縫是他去年不常投的球種 而今年他已經有三顆四縫被扛出牆。田中的四縫球速跟轉速都在平均值左右, 因此他更不能犯錯。 Tanaka’s preferred fastball has become the two-seam/sinker. Consider its location versus righties in 2016, when he was able to move it around the strike zone: 田中比較仰賴的速球是二縫(伸卡),下圖是2016年二縫VS右打者的熱圖,當時他可以 把球投在好球帶的邊緣。 http://imgur.com/DQYT4CI
下圖是2017年 二縫VS右打者 http://imgur.com/PH4dW9o
A year ago, Tanaka was able to pitch to the glove- and arm-side parts of the plate, seemingly at will, with the pitch. This season, he has too often left the pitch over the heart of the plate. And even when Tanaka just slightly misses with location, he can be hurt by his home ballpark. 一年前田中似乎可以隨心所欲地將二縫投在好球帶的兩邊,但今年他太常投進紅中, 即使他丟的離邊角只差一點,洋基球場也可能讓他付出代價。 When examining Tanaka’s two-seamer/sinker versus lefties in 2016 he was able most often locate it on the outside edge and at the lower extreme part of the zone: Tanaka doesn’t appear to be missing badly with the pitch, but he’s more often pitching in the zone — and particularly down in the zone — in 2017: 再來看2016年二縫VS左打者的熱圖,當時他可以將球投在外角以及好球帶最下緣 http://imgur.com/owwDh4X
今年雖然沒有偏差的太多,但他更常投進好球帶裡,特別是偏低的地方 http://imgur.com/CgKjBGw
And finally, consider Tanaka’s signature, pitch, his splitter, to lefties in 2016: Compare that visual to his work to date in 2017. You can see the pitch is leaking more out over the plate: Too often the splitter isn’t splitting. The pitch is flattening out and catching more plate than Tanaka can afford. 最後來看田中的招牌指叉VS左打者 2016 http://imgur.com/Gac1fzj
2017 http://imgur.com/qFPU0mA
可以看到去年的指叉比較常掉出好球帶外。今年的指叉則常常不掉,球變平而進入 好球帶。 Said Yankees pitching coach Larry Rothschild to MLB.com: “It doesn’t look like there’s anything with the arm. Sometimes location can be part of the problem, but that’s not what he’s saying. There’s no indication of [an injury].” And if there were an injury, it’s not showing up in velocity. He’s hit 97 mph this year, his highest reading since 2014, and his two-seam/sinker velocity (91.0 mph) is slightly up from last season. 洋基投手教練Rothschild說:"手臂看起來沒有問題, 有時候丟不準是受傷的併發症, 但他沒有說自己不舒服,並沒有受傷的跡象。" (but that’s not what he’s saying 這句不確定怎麼翻Orz 謝謝t大) 即使田中真的有傷,並沒有反映在球速上,今年最快97mph,是從2014以來最快的, 而二縫的球速也比去年稍微提升。 END 最後兩段省略XD 補充原文留言的出手點整理 http://imgur.com/HpZhYl0
出手點來到歷年低點 可能導致球變平 討論看看吧 (〞︶〝*) ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: zyx12320 (140.112.230.134), 06/01/2017 18:33:40 ※ 編輯: zyx12320 (140.112.230.134), 06/01/2017 18:34:00

06/01 18:36, , 1F
先推
06/01 18:36, 1F

06/01 18:40, , 2F
我本來想翻這篇說w 感謝你
06/01 18:40, 2F

06/01 18:42, , 3F
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06/01 18:57, , 4F
日本投手強的不少,但能長久保持的卻不多,野茂算是異類
06/01 18:57, 4F
※ 編輯: zyx12320 (140.112.230.134), 06/01/2017 18:59:35

06/01 19:08, , 5F
長久保持的明明是黑田
06/01 19:08, 5F

06/01 19:10, , 6F
黑田大叔真的讚
06/01 19:10, 6F

06/01 19:15, , 7F
四縫或許不太適合他>
06/01 19:15, 7F

06/01 19:25, , 8F
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06/01 19:29, , 9F
日製水貨嗎……?
06/01 19:29, 9F

06/01 19:34, , 10F
不是水貨 是生涯高峰可能就是無敗投那年了
06/01 19:34, 10F

06/01 19:42, , 11F
講真 田中將大比松坂大輔還不如
06/01 19:42, 11F

06/01 19:43, , 12F
看轉播其實他球的角度還是蠻犀利的 只是打者都能掌握
06/01 19:43, 12F

06/01 19:44, , 13F
以前靠的是極品指叉殺爆 現在指叉品質不行了
06/01 19:44, 13F

06/01 19:44, , 14F
手臂是消耗品啊...
06/01 19:44, 14F

06/01 20:08, , 15F
"有時候丟不準是受傷的併發症, 但他沒有說自己不舒服"
06/01 20:08, 15F
感謝 看起來這樣才對 我完全錯了QQ

06/01 20:12, , 16F
先確定無傷無痛再來看吧...
06/01 20:12, 16F
※ 編輯: zyx12320 (140.112.230.134), 06/01/2017 20:18:32

06/01 20:25, , 17F
(燈等~) Tanaka, Thai kick!!
06/01 20:25, 17F

06/01 20:27, , 18F
繼續炸下去 搞不好就圈外了
06/01 20:27, 18F

06/01 20:28, , 19F
不能笑
06/01 20:28, 19F

06/01 20:33, , 20F
雷神:我的身體我最清楚 啪
06/01 20:33, 20F

06/01 20:54, , 21F
應該不會跳脫合約了
06/01 20:54, 21F

06/01 20:56, , 22F
達比修樂勝
06/01 20:56, 22F

06/01 21:18, , 23F
Yankee簽了太多日本水貨了
06/01 21:18, 23F

06/01 21:20, , 24F
上一場投得好敗投 這場直接炸.... 今年他真的蠻謎的
06/01 21:20, 24F

06/01 21:21, , 25F
"他沒有說自己不舒服" 覺得不能完全排除 有時候日本仔就
06/01 21:21, 25F

06/01 21:21, , 26F
是很愛硬撐
06/01 21:21, 26F

06/01 22:05, , 27F
出手點越來越低可能有傷,身體不自覺的反應。
06/01 22:05, 27F

06/01 22:24, , 28F
brooks修正後四縫去年使用9.4% 今年7.89%
06/01 22:24, 28F
FG 去年6.5% 今年20.8% brooks用演算法修正差異竟這麼大 覺得蠻奇怪的

06/01 22:59, , 29F
所以當事人認為沒有傷,那不就是承認,是自己實力的問題
06/01 22:59, 29F

06/01 23:03, , 30F
沒傷每場的投球狀況都不一樣啊,我大田中實力無庸置疑
06/01 23:03, 30F

06/01 23:05, , 31F
不是說出手點變低就是警訊嗎?
06/01 23:05, 31F

06/01 23:55, , 32F
紅明顯 覺得只是暫時低潮 他春訓投的快跟CY一樣....
06/01 23:55, 32F

06/02 00:00, , 33F
樓上也是挺可愛的 春訓成績也能拿來說嘴
06/02 00:00, 33F

06/02 00:00, , 34F
春訓多久以前的事了= =再說春訓成績從來都不重要
06/02 00:00, 34F

06/02 00:03, , 35F
前田今年也慘慘
06/02 00:03, 35F

06/02 00:24, , 36F
都說神之子過譽了,達爾才是真貨
06/02 00:24, 36F

06/02 01:21, , 37F
田中加油啦!
06/02 01:21, 37F
※ 編輯: zyx12320 (140.112.230.134), 06/02/2017 01:47:59

06/02 04:07, , 38F
...去年居然被修高蠻意外的 今年是很多卡特被當四縫
06/02 04:07, 38F

06/02 04:08, , 39F
brooks也時常有錯誤的就是 唉
06/02 04:08, 39F

06/02 07:43, , 40F
黑田退休後,日投只有達爾才是說得上ACE
06/02 07:43, 40F

06/02 08:24, , 41F
他那卡
06/02 08:24, 41F

06/02 08:58, , 42F
黑田從來都不是ACE啊
06/02 08:58, 42F

06/02 09:38, , 43F
在日本投太多了 連陳都一樣
06/02 09:38, 43F

06/12 05:14, , 44F
黑田是工作馬
06/12 05:14, 44F
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