[外電] Mariners, Orioles 談交易 Trumbo

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http://bit.ly/1SvtgbG 目前水手,金鶯正在認真談 Mark Trumbo <-> Steve Clevenger 交易 除了分攤薪水的問題外, 金鶯還想要多要一個球員 另外金鶯也在考慮 Mark Trumbo 被 Non-Tender,可以直接簽的可能 By Bob Dutton bdutton@thenewstribune.com SEATTLE — The Mariners, in a race to beat the clock, closed in Tuesday night on a deal that would sent first baseman/outfielder Mark Trumbo to Baltimore for catcher/first baseman Steve Clevenger. Sources from both sides confirmed discussions were ongoing, although one cautioned: "There’s still some details to be worked out." The Orioles are believed to be demanding another player in the deal. One hurdle complicating the talks is the salary disparity between the two players. Trumbo is eligible for arbitration and projects to make $9.1 million in 2016; Clevenger is not yet eligible and figures to make about $520,000. The Orioles are also concerned, another source said, they might needlessly be surrendering a player (Clevenger) amid speculation the Mariners could choose not to offer a contract to Trumbo prior to Wednesday’s deadline. Clubs must offer contracts to all unsigned players on their 40-man roster by 9 p.m. Wednesday. Those who don’t receive an offer become free agents with no compensation to their former clubs if they sign elsewhere. In contrast, players who receive a contract offer are considered signed players even if their salary has yet to be negotiated. As such, they are eligible for separation pay if subsequently released. That compensation amounts to roughly one-sixth of a player’s salary (30/183rds) even if he is released more than 15 days before the season starts. In effect, an offer to Trumbo, if the Mariners don’t want to keep him, could represent a $1.5 million gamble that he can be traded at a later date. The Mariners have three other arbitration-eligible players: reliever Charlie Furbush (who projects to get $1.7 million), outfielder Leonys Martin ($3.75 million) and pitcher Anthony Bass ($1.1 million). Players not yet eligible for arbitration must also be offered contracts but — as is the case with Clevenger — they have little negotiating leverage and typically sign for the major-league minimum ($507,500) or slightly more. The Mariners’ desire to trade Trumbo, a proven power hitter who averaged 26 homers over the last five years, stems from a belief that he is a poor fit in their quest to build a more athletic, better defensive club. Dipoto reached the same conclusion roughly two years ago when, as general manager of the Los Angeles Angels, he traded Trumbo to Arizona in a three-team deal that involved six players. The Mariners held multiple discussions with the Orioles and Colorado Rockies over the last two weeks in an effort to trade Trumbo. When talks with the Rockies stalled, the Mariners pushed harder with the Orioles. Clevenger, 29, is a left-handed hitter who is out of options. He batted .287 last season in 30 games for the Orioles but spent much of the year at Triple-A Norfolk, where he batted .305 in 75 games. A seventh-round pick by the Chicago in 2006, he reached the majors in 2011. A July 2013 trade brought Clevenger to the Orioles in a four-player swap that sent Cy Young winner Jake Arrieta to the Cubs. Clevenger has a .228 career average in 148 games over parts of five big-league seasons, but he has a .310 average in 733 minor-league games over 10 years. Trumbo batted .263 last season with 13 homers and 41 RBIs in 96 games after joining the the Mariners with pitcher Vidal Nuno from Arizona in a June 3 trade. The Diamondbacks received catcher Welington Castillo, reliever Dominic Leone and two minor-league players: outfielder Gabby Guerrero and infielder Jack Reinheimer. That trade represented an effort by the Mariners’ previous regime to jump-start what, at that point, was a struggling attack. But Trumbo got off to a dreadful start at 11-for-79 in his first 22 games. Trumbo then rallied by batting .302 over his final 74 games with 12 homers and 36 RBIs. Overall, he finished last season at .262 in 142 games with 22 homers and RBIs. --

06/13 16:43,
台淫能拿到面額最大的鈔票嗎?
06/13 16:43

06/13 16:43,
 銀
06/13 16:43

06/13 16:46,
平常打什麼字 就會肛好打出來
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06/13 16:51,
剛 樓上也是
06/13 16:51
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12/02 09:17, , 1F
放棄CD?
12/02 09:17, 1F
※ 編輯: ccpz (140.113.243.129), 12/02/2015 09:18:37

12/02 09:29, , 2F
Trumbo也要變成浪人了?
12/02 09:29, 2F

12/02 09:31, , 3F
應該是簽來擺外野角落 順便當一壘備胎...
12/02 09:31, 3F

12/02 09:32, , 4F
對啊 一換一金鶯賠 換來當DH嗎 還是對pearse沒信心
12/02 09:32, 4F

12/02 09:34, , 5F
pearce才對 不過至少還有交易的價值...
12/02 09:34, 5F

12/02 09:38, , 6F
Pearce已經是自由球員了吧
12/02 09:38, 6F

12/02 10:02, , 7F
不知道Chen的合約進展如何………
12/02 10:02, 7F

12/02 10:14, , 8F
怎麼沒上落磯山
12/02 10:14, 8F

12/02 10:14, , 9F
對吼 估狗玩才知道 謝謝指正
12/02 10:14, 9F

12/02 10:23, , 10F
川寶又被Dipoto賣掉了一次
12/02 10:23, 10F

12/02 10:23, , 11F
交易好像成功了 MLBTR有新聞
12/02 10:23, 11F

12/02 10:30, , 12F
省9M要來簽CHEN嗎?
12/02 10:30, 12F

12/02 10:42, , 13F
也不算為了省 9M 交易, 直接 Non-Tender 也可以省
12/02 10:42, 13F

12/02 10:42, , 14F
只是交易後可以拿回一些報酬, Non-Tender 就打水飄了
12/02 10:42, 14F

12/02 10:48, , 15F
如果Clevenger真的能換到Trumbo就神了
12/02 10:48, 15F

12/02 11:04, , 16F
Trumbo放外野根本就一個大洞...看水手比賽看他一直搞笑
12/02 11:04, 16F

12/02 11:50, , 17F
川後之前在別隊後來守 1B居多~樓上應該問為啥水兵那白
12/02 11:50, 17F

12/02 11:51, , 18F
吃教練有膽讓他守外野XD
12/02 11:51, 18F

12/02 11:55, , 19F
川寶…
12/02 11:55, 19F

12/02 11:55, , 20F
麥總:火力最大化
12/02 11:55, 20F

12/02 12:39, , 21F
猴子就敢讓川寶外野 不是嗎?
12/02 12:39, 21F

12/02 12:46, , 22F
CD呢?
12/02 12:46, 22F

12/02 12:47, , 23F
Trumbo在猴子的確守過外野 但真的最好不要....
12/02 12:47, 23F

12/02 12:50, , 24F
真的來了 恭喜金鳥
12/02 12:50, 24F

12/02 12:58, , 25F
就CD的窮人版~大家都知道金鶯老闆超摳
12/02 12:58, 25F

12/02 13:38, , 26F
不錯1B/LF都可以 不過守LF很可怕
12/02 13:38, 26F

12/02 13:58, , 27F
為什麼要放棄Clevenger?
12/02 13:58, 27F

12/02 13:59, , 28F
若要交易,是跟水手要外野手才對
12/02 13:59, 28F

12/02 14:03, , 29F
Clevenger是什麼好貨嗎? 還挑勒XDD
12/02 14:03, 29F

12/02 14:15, , 30F
若是金鶯留不住MW,Clevenger就可以來接班
12/02 14:15, 30F

12/02 14:15, , 31F
且水手不是年輕外野手一堆嗎? 金鶯沒要OF還真奇怪
12/02 14:15, 31F

12/02 14:21, , 32F
30歲還站不穩大聯盟的捕手是什麼好貨嗎
12/02 14:21, 32F

12/02 14:23, , 33F
Trumbo的價值也被高估了啦 沒腿沒手套的盲砲
12/02 14:23, 33F

12/02 14:25, , 34F
要Clevenger接班喔?祝你好運XD
12/02 14:25, 34F

12/02 14:28, , 35F
水兵哪來的年輕外野手一堆啊- - 平行時空嗎?
12/02 14:28, 35F

12/02 14:28, , 36F
我們去年還派川寶和褲子一起去守外野耶
12/02 14:28, 36F

12/02 14:38, , 37F
我相信金鳥會把他交易來應該還是希望他能站外野啦...
12/02 14:38, 37F

12/02 14:40, , 38F
畢竟GM之前講過要弄過來的是一個外野手 至於能不能守
12/02 14:40, 38F

12/02 14:40, , 39F
到時候再說吧...
12/02 14:40, 39F

12/02 14:41, , 40F
雖然我喜歡Clevenger 但他如果不能打出跟AAA相對應的
12/02 14:41, 40F

12/02 14:43, , 41F
成績是沒有本錢跟Joseph競爭的
12/02 14:43, 41F

12/02 15:05, , 42F
Clevenger打擊不錯但守備悲劇
12/02 15:05, 42F

12/02 15:07, , 43F
Trumbo應該是1B備案,LF大概守不了,若簽回CD
12/02 15:07, 43F

12/02 15:08, , 44F
可能先把川寶放一壘CD去LF,或川寶去DH
12/02 15:08, 44F

12/02 15:11, , 45F
沒簽回CD可能會追Morneau。我個人是比較喜歡Clevenger
12/02 15:11, 45F

12/02 15:12, , 46F
但Clevenger太衰了,誰知道Wieters會接受QO…
12/02 15:12, 46F

12/02 15:13, , 47F
本來明年是要用Caleb Joseph/Steve Clevenger站捕手的
12/02 15:13, 47F

12/02 15:59, , 48F
Trumbo守外野守的實在太陡了,CD守外野至少中規中矩
12/02 15:59, 48F

12/02 16:01, , 49F
CD可以守LF喔??
12/02 16:01, 49F

12/02 16:40, , 50F
CD LF RF 都可以站 守得不算差 偶爾客串很OK的程度
12/02 16:40, 50F

12/02 16:45, , 51F
查了一下守LF的樣本太小了 比印象中少 沒什麼參考價值
12/02 16:45, 51F

12/02 17:16, , 52F
以前就有在守外野啊~~~~
12/02 17:16, 52F

12/02 17:28, , 53F
本人都說了
12/02 17:28, 53F

12/02 21:02, , 54F

12/03 08:41, , 55F
Jerry Dipoto第二次交易他 第一次是當天使GM
12/03 08:41, 55F

12/03 11:14, , 56F
Trumbo去金鶯啦~
12/03 11:14, 56F

12/03 21:12, , 57F
川寶怎麼變成這樣.....
12/03 21:12, 57F
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