[閒聊] MLB考慮禁止二壘衝撞

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One of the scariest moments during the 2015 postseason was when New York Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada was carted off the field during the National League Division Series after Chase Utley of the Los Angeles Dodgers slid into him. Since then, Major League Basebal has considered a rule change where they’ll prevent slides that aren’t directed towards the second base bag; that includes take-out slides when trying to stay out of the double play. “We don’t want to have guys carried off the field,” Joe Torre said earlier this week. “Obviously, you can’t lose sight of what the game is about. You don’t want somebody just not trying to get to second base and not trying to keep the inning going. It’s a thin line that you have to walk, and that’s why it’s really tough to put pen to paper.” Major League Baseball changed baseball two years ago when they eliminated collisions at home plate after San Francisco Giants catcher Buster Posey broke his leg following a collision with then Florida Marlins outfielder Scott Cousins. MLB will review the possible second base rule change this offseason. The current rule for slides at second base have been described as “ deliberate, unwarranted, unsportsmanlike action by the runner in leaving the baseline for the obvious purpose of crashing the pivot man on a double play, rather than trying to reach the base.” The new rule would be more restrictive and Major League Baseball hopes it could carry the same success as the rule preventing home plate collisions. “It makes sense to extend it to second base and give the fielder the protection that they deserve when they’re trying to make a play,” Dan Duquette, the Baltimore Orioles’ executive vice president of baseball operations, said on the matter. If Major League Baseball agrees on a rule change, it could come into effect as early as next year. 在今年姜正浩跟Tejada相繼被剷到報銷下 Joe Torre說MLB正在考慮研擬修改規則 禁止往二壘防守員的干擾性滑壘 現在往二壘衝的跑者有時大部分都是有目的性為了要干擾雙殺而跑離壘線 新規則將會更有限制性 大聯盟希望能跟之前的本壘衝撞而出現了的波西條款有保護作用 (不過這條款界線現在也是很模糊) 如果MLB同意的情況下 新的二壘條款最快明年啟用 http://goo.gl/i8hJuu ======================= 記得之前戰蠻大的 有人說往防守員腳鏟沒品 有人說這本來就是防守員該躲開的 大家討論看看吧~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.228.160.215 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1447691950.A.2ED.html ※ 編輯: Zuleta (61.228.160.215), 11/17/2015 00:48:25

11/17 00:56, , 1F
我覺的先引進好壞球 電眼判決吧,把裁判都拿掉
11/17 00:56, 1F

11/17 00:56, , 2F
棒球才能國際世界化 不然永遠都是那幾國在玩而已
11/17 00:56, 2F

11/17 01:05, , 3F
樓上 裁判也是比賽的一部份 這句話還會存在很久的
11/17 01:05, 3F

11/17 01:06, , 4F
若能減少優秀球員陣亡率,也算好事吧?
11/17 01:06, 4F

11/17 01:08, , 5F
好球球電眼 光裁判公會這關就過不去了
11/17 01:08, 5F

11/17 01:08, , 6F
11/17 01:08, 6F

11/17 01:09, , 7F
要不要改觸身球規章打到人算全壘打
11/17 01:09, 7F

11/17 01:11, , 8F
改成以後上場要帶全副武裝在打好了
11/17 01:11, 8F

11/17 01:13, , 9F
過度解釋到觸身球跟全副武裝的,邏輯還好嗎?
11/17 01:13, 9F

11/17 01:14, , 10F
鏟人也是比賽的一部份,怎麼閃怎麼傳很有學問的
11/17 01:14, 10F

11/17 01:15, , 11F
這樣以後二遊薪水要打六折
11/17 01:15, 11F

11/17 01:16, , 12F
MLB因為很商業化才不想廢裁判 因為這樣有話題還可製造
11/17 01:16, 12F

11/17 01:16, , 13F
很多打到後半段的比賽一直逆轉來逆轉去的
11/17 01:16, 13F

11/17 01:16, , 14F
不然棒球早該電眼判決了,很多國家都不相信每個來回的
11/17 01:16, 14F

11/17 01:17, , 15F
結果都決定在裁判的主觀意識裡才不想發展棒球這運動
11/17 01:17, 15F

11/17 01:18, , 16F
所以到最後就還是美帝還其快樂的夥伴們在打而已
11/17 01:18, 16F

11/17 01:19, , 17F
禁來禁去的 要不甘脆禁止不能投內角球好了,打到頭更傷
11/17 01:19, 17F

11/17 01:25, , 18F
裁判公會??MLB如果多幾次委內瑞拉今年被婊的這種
11/17 01:25, 18F

11/17 01:25, , 19F
應該終究要廢的 人家打那麼努力是打心酸的嗎
11/17 01:25, 19F

11/17 01:26, , 20F
好不容易拼成這樣 結果因為一個爛誤判整個打包回家
11/17 01:26, 20F

11/17 01:27, , 21F
還有廢不廢鏟人 怎麼判決??裁判怎麼看到底怎麼算鏟人
11/17 01:27, 21F

11/17 01:27, , 22F
二壘都一樣要滑壘阿 如果二遊在壘包上來不及退出還是
11/17 01:27, 22F

11/17 01:28, , 23F
會接觸到 這怎麼判
11/17 01:28, 23F

11/17 01:48, , 24F
...討論KZONE科技判決還可以 把國際化推給裁判就太誇張了
11/17 01:48, 24F

11/17 01:51, , 25F
至於推翻判決已經上路 國際賽要不要跟上只是時間早晚
11/17 01:51, 25F

11/17 01:53, , 26F
而滑壘判定我覺得也不要這麼急就覺得裁判沒法判斷
11/17 01:53, 26F

11/17 02:32, , 27F
大聯盟那套挑戰制度有只有大聯盟自己玩得起。像中職這種則
11/17 02:32, 27F

11/17 02:32, , 28F
是要看轉播單位給不給力
11/17 02:32, 28F

11/17 02:56, , 29F
呃 連中職都能辦到怎會只有大聯盟玩得起呢 想不想而已吧
11/17 02:56, 29F

11/17 02:57, , 30F
後來想想若是確定禁止干擾性滑壘 那可能實際上意外的好抓?
11/17 02:57, 30F

11/17 02:58, , 31F
畢竟不會再有"以接觸壘包為主 干擾為輔"的動作出現
11/17 02:58, 31F

11/17 03:01, , 32F
跑者滑壘除了接觸壘包 其他多餘的動作我想自然就好判許多
11/17 03:01, 32F

11/17 03:05, , 33F
偏離路線甚至衝過頭就為了撞壘包後二游的動作自然就out吧
11/17 03:05, 33F

11/17 03:20, , 34F
以後乾脆不要防守者,球飛過壘包就算刺殺好了
11/17 03:20, 34F

11/17 03:27, , 35F
嚴格執行「偏離跑壘線算出局」就可以了,不需新增規則。
11/17 03:27, 35F

11/17 03:46, , 36F
那些無限上綱的有事嗎…
11/17 03:46, 36F

11/17 05:16, , 37F
什麼時候要成立乖寶寶聯盟?
11/17 05:16, 37F

11/17 05:20, , 38F
娘娘腔野球來了
11/17 05:20, 38F

11/17 05:26, , 39F
1F和他的夥伴們出桶了喔@@?
11/17 05:26, 39F

11/17 07:40, , 40F
裁判 商業化 問號
11/17 07:40, 40F

11/17 07:50, , 41F
支持這項 能做到安全是最好的
11/17 07:50, 41F

11/17 08:01, , 42F
下手拋是不是也要禁?
11/17 08:01, 42F

11/17 08:02, , 43F
鏟人又不會偏離跑壘線 有啥用
11/17 08:02, 43F

11/17 08:03, , 44F
而且阿特利的case 他早就死得不能再死了
11/17 08:03, 44F

11/17 08:44, , 45F
(p x n+1)apcers n>=0
11/17 08:44, 45F

11/17 09:23, , 46F
1F出桶啦?
11/17 09:23, 46F

11/17 09:51, , 47F
支持阿~ 我覺得投球打擊守備很好看,球員受傷超難看
11/17 09:51, 47F

11/17 10:23, , 48F
無限上綱的邏輯真感人
11/17 10:23, 48F

11/17 10:32, , 49F
支持1F的工作以後讓電腦取代,回家吃土
11/17 10:32, 49F

11/17 10:41, , 50F
要有效減少球員受傷,第一步反而是縮減賽程。162場排得滿
11/17 10:41, 50F

11/17 10:41, , 51F
滿滿,球員太累了
11/17 10:41, 51F

11/17 10:43, , 52F
這次CBA可能會改IFA,老闆覺得IFA太燒錢,小球員有必要共體
11/17 10:43, 52F

11/17 10:43, , 53F
時艱
11/17 10:43, 53F

11/17 10:44, , 54F
還有球場防護
11/17 10:44, 54F

11/17 10:45, , 55F
賽程縮減會討論,但老闆們不會同意
11/17 10:45, 55F

11/17 11:08, , 56F
162 場就商業化阿,要賺錢 何況他還有九月可以擴編
11/17 11:08, 56F

11/17 11:09, , 57F
意思就是叫你沒希望的球隊 九月以後可以亂打懂嗎
11/17 11:09, 57F

11/17 11:10, , 58F
亂打你們怎麼打自己去安排 但聯盟還是要賺錢
11/17 11:10, 58F

11/17 11:10, , 59F
我相信球隊也喜歡打162場 所以縮短賽程是更不可能的
11/17 11:10, 59F

11/17 11:11, , 60F
162場都玩幾十年了 從小看到大都玩162場的
11/17 11:11, 60F

11/17 11:28, , 61F
黑田根本投不好 他好只有一兩年而已 ERA也是比NPB腫超多
11/17 11:28, 61F

11/17 11:49, , 62F
有效減少球員受傷(X) 有效減少故意使球員受傷(O)
11/17 11:49, 62F

11/17 12:23, , 63F
黑田7年 79W 79L 1319 IP ERA 3.45 ERA+115 ,原來這樣是
11/17 12:23, 63F

11/17 12:24, , 64F
投不好,只有好一兩年呢,真是受教了.
11/17 12:24, 64F

11/17 12:50, , 65F
反串嗎?黑田NPB的era明明比MLB高啊
11/17 12:50, 65F

11/17 12:54, , 66F
孃砲野球
11/17 12:54, 66F

11/17 13:27, , 67F
推,球員是資產,隨便鏟傷真的沒品
11/17 13:27, 67F

11/17 14:14, , 68F
說黑田投不好的是平行世界嗎……… 黑田投的還不差吧
11/17 14:14, 68F

11/17 14:43, , 69F
某人的高見看得讓我噴飯XD
11/17 14:43, 69F

11/17 14:51, , 70F
一樓居然出桶了@@
11/17 14:51, 70F

11/17 14:54, , 71F
他分身不知道有沒有永桶
11/17 14:54, 71F

11/17 16:43, , 72F
跟大仙認真幹嗎XD
11/17 16:43, 72F

11/17 20:33, , 73F
要不要直接改成Major League Softball?
11/17 20:33, 73F

11/18 00:22, , 74F
就像波西條款一樣 觀念會隨時間改變 個人樂觀其成
11/18 00:22, 74F

11/18 00:55, , 75F
姜正浩被剷那個根本超扯 離壘快一公尺還被剷到
11/18 00:55, 75F

11/18 00:56, , 76F
至少要規定腳只能往二壘踢
11/18 00:56, 76F

11/18 01:40, , 77F
就至少路線會規定吧 鏟人不一定要離開直線沒錯
11/18 01:40, 77F

11/18 01:40, , 78F
但特地離開直線我想目的只會有一個
11/18 01:40, 78F

11/18 08:15, , 79F
當初不是一堆人說是姜守備技巧太爛才閃不過嗎
11/18 08:15, 79F

11/18 19:05, , 80F
問題是現在的鏟沒有多少是往二壘鏟的 偏多偏少而已
11/18 19:05, 80F

11/18 19:06, , 81F
姜那個跑者太晚出腳他根本閃不掉吧...
11/18 19:06, 81F

11/19 02:37, , 82F
滑壘規範需往壘包方向過去,這樣會變Soft嗎?
11/19 02:37, 82F

11/19 09:07, , 83F
真要保護球員立法大概是需要的~
11/19 09:07, 83F
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