[情報] Cashman: 中肯很受傷

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'Honesty hurts': GM told Derek Jeter that Troy Tulowitzki was better option in '10 http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/13473850 10-11 的冬天, 當 Jeter 的合約是洋基當年也要處理的事情之一時, Jeter 曾經問 Cashman, 你希望誰來當洋基的游擊手. Cashman 回答: "你真的要我誠實以對嗎?" "Tulowitzki." Cashman: "我們不是會花大錢然後只是買名氣, 我們是要買球員實力的." (2010 的數據, Jeter: 270/10/67, Tulo: 315/27/95) 當時 Jeter 和球隊要一張 4~6 年, 每年 $22M ~ $24M 的合約 (當時 Jeter 36/37 歲) 結果最後簽了 3 年 總共 $51M 的合約. 上面的消息最近被 SI 寫成報導, 但 Cashman "不確認也不否認" 這篇報導. Cashman 也表示儘管 Jeter 是他擔任 GM 以來, 擁有過最偉大的球員, 但他還是有他的職責要做, 且會對球員誠實以對. Cashman: "講中肯話的確很受傷, 但當你被付錢要做事時, 你還是得做." "如果你不做事, 你就像是薪水小偷. 這種事情, 要嘛說, 要嘛不要講." ESPN 報導原文: Four years before hanging up the pinstripes for good, Derek Jeter reportedly was told by Brian Cashman exactly where he stood during testy contract negotiations with the New York Yankees general manager. According to Sports Illustrated, Jeter, in the midst of talks after the 2010 season, asked Cashman whom he'd rather have playing shortstop for the Yankees. Cashman's answer: Troy Tulowitzki, among others. "Do you really want me to answer that?" Cashman told Jeter, according to SI. "We're not paying extra money for popularity. We're paying for performance." Jeter was coming off a 2010 season in which he had 10 home runs, 67 RBIs and a then-career-low .270 batting average. Tulowitzki, meanwhile, was coming off another stellar season with the Colorado Rockies, belting 27 home runs with 95 RBIs and a .315 average. Jeter, who was seeking a four- to six-year deal in the area of $22 million to $24 million a year, eventually signed a three-year, $51 million extension with the Yankees, with whom he retired after 20 seasons in 2014. Tulowitzki was traded to Toronto this season and has sparked the Blue Jays' run toward the top of the AL East standings, where they trail the Yankees by two games entering Thursday. Cashman told the New York Daily News on Wednesday that he didn't provide any quotes from Jeter's negotiations to Sports Illustrated but that he "didn't confirm or deny" the report and didn't take issue with it. He confirmed that SI spent time with him but also that the magazine talked to others and "did a lot of homework." And although Cashman said Jeter was the "greatest player I will have ever had," the general manager told the Daily News that he still has a job to do and has no problem answering players' questions "directly and honestly." "Sometimes honesty hurts. But if you're being paid to do a job, do the job," Cashman told Sports Illustrated. "You have to honor the job description; if not, you're a fraud or stealing money. You can't fake your way doing this. You either do it or you don't." 另外, 最新一期的 SI 雜誌封面是 Jason Heyward, 標題: Cardinal Rules" 紅鳥迷, 保重. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 69.141.44.222 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1440095799.A.243.html

08/21 02:47, , 1F
Heyward已進傷兵名單 gg
08/21 02:47, 1F

08/21 02:49, , 2F
看錯 似乎還沒進 但目前受傷了
08/21 02:49, 2F

08/21 03:03, , 3F
Jeter開的養老約也太佛心了吧
08/21 03:03, 3F

08/21 03:04, , 4F
不過我再看一次…難道是要4~6年,每年22m ? 也開太高了XD
08/21 03:04, 4F
拍謝 補上去以免誤解

08/21 03:20, , 5F
in the area of $22 million to $24 million "a year"
08/21 03:20, 5F

08/21 03:20, , 6F
搶劫啊XDDDDD
08/21 03:20, 6F

08/21 03:34, , 7F
因為他是Jeter
08/21 03:34, 7F

08/21 03:41, , 8F
開價當然要開高,在給人殺價啊!
08/21 03:41, 8F

08/21 04:04, , 9F
Jeter其實不差那些錢 主要還是面子問題啊 一個整段
08/21 04:04, 9F

08/21 04:05, , 10F
生涯都allstar的游擊手有道理自己主動降價嗎XD
08/21 04:05, 10F
※ 編輯: mrkey (69.141.44.222), 08/21/2015 04:23:42

08/21 06:23, , 11F
Tim Duncan???
08/21 06:23, 11F

08/21 07:12, , 12F
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08/21 07:32, , 13F
雖然不愛洋基也對洋基不甚瞭解,但看這段覺得現金人真
08/21 07:32, 13F

08/21 07:32, , 14F
的不錯
08/21 07:32, 14F

08/21 07:54, , 15F
在商言商
08/21 07:54, 15F

08/21 09:51, , 16F
SI這次失靈,因為出刊前就已經受傷(咦)!
08/21 09:51, 16F

08/21 09:58, , 17F
最後這幾年靠jeter賺的錢,根本也沒讓NYY虧到啊
08/21 09:58, 17F

08/21 10:06, , 18F
沒有失靈,而是更猛!拍完照就受傷給你看
08/21 10:06, 18F

08/21 10:27, , 19F
簽Jeter怎麼樣都是賺沒錯 但是會傷害球隊戰績啊
08/21 10:27, 19F

08/21 10:30, , 20F
怎麼知道NYY有賺錢?前幾年戰績爛的時候票房多慘啊
08/21 10:30, 20F

08/21 10:40, , 21F
棒球沒有薪資上限,所以比較不會出現球星主動要求降價
08/21 10:40, 21F

08/21 10:41, , 22F
這種怪事情。NBA有馬刺的TD,NFL有Brady帶頭降薪
08/21 10:41, 22F

08/21 10:44, , 23F
說不定SI裡有人偷偷在飲料或餐點裡放奇怪的東西,讓上門拍照
08/21 10:44, 23F

08/21 10:45, , 24F
的球員食用...結果就是容易受傷...
08/21 10:45, 24F

08/21 10:45, , 25F
目的:說不定跟簽賭有關??
08/21 10:45, 25F

08/21 11:02, , 26F
看藍鳥出的菜,如果現金人肯出清農場也換的到兔肉
08/21 11:02, 26F

08/21 14:22, , 27F
現金人好強
08/21 14:22, 27F

08/21 18:31, , 28F
現金人真不給面子,應該告訴他洋基要年輕十歲的Jeter
08/21 18:31, 28F

08/21 18:40, , 29F
年輕十歲的Jeter跟兔肉,我還是會選兔肉吧......
08/21 18:40, 29F

08/21 18:43, , 30F
樓上沒把兔肉的痛算進去...Jeter生涯幾乎每季都150+場
08/21 18:43, 30F

08/21 18:44, , 31F
兔肉2010年後就沒有過150場了 這幾年更是超痛
08/21 18:44, 31F

08/21 18:45, , 32F
正常人百分之兩百都會選Jeter無誤 除非你喜歡花錢放DL
08/21 18:45, 32F

08/21 18:51, , 33F
樓上知道WAR嗎
08/21 18:51, 33F

08/21 18:54, , 34F
不能這樣計算吧 你要把替補可能造成的負WAR也計進去
08/21 18:54, 34F

08/21 18:55, , 35F
直接算WAR只是球迷在爽而已 球隊的角度又不一樣
08/21 18:55, 35F

08/21 19:03, , 36F
「理論上」替補球員的 WAR 應該要是 0, 這是 WAR 的基礎
08/21 19:03, 36F

08/21 19:06, , 37F
算單一球員的 WAR 並不只是球迷在爽, 是有意義的
08/21 19:06, 37F

08/22 01:16, , 38F
PEDROIA有降價吧
08/22 01:16, 38F

08/23 22:44, , 39F
比照去水手那個,小派超佛心的!就感心
08/23 22:44, 39F
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