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※ [本文轉錄自 NY-Yankees 看板 #1Idlp1hH ] 作者: jeffchen106 (超哥) 看板: NY-Yankees 標題: [外電] 紐約郵報 時間: Wed Dec 4 17:58:22 2013 Yankees agree with Ellsbury for 7 years, $153M http://tinyurl.com/oqro7kk The Yankees promised to move swiftly with or without Robinson Cano — and they are keeping that promise. The Bronx Bombers agreed to a seven-year, $153 million deal with free-agent outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury on Tuesday pending a physical, according to multiple sources. A friend of Ellsbury’s said he flew from Phoenix to New York on Tuesday to take the physical, but another person involved in the negotiations insisted the matter remained “close, but fluid” with a few items to complete to finalize a contract that would include an option for an eighth year that, if triggered, would bring the total value to $169 million. The Ellsbury agreement came on the same day that the Yankees made Brian McCann ’s five-year, $85 million deal official. So that is $238 million already spent on two big free agents. The Yankees’ shopping list remains long and Cano remains on it. But the organization has insisted publicly and privately and even in meetings with Cano’s officials it is going to keep making purchases and if the money allocated for Cano dries up, the Yankees will either lower their bid or remove it completely. At $21.85 million per season, the contract would make Ellsbury the second-highest paid outfielder in baseball behind Josh Hamilton, who is making $25 million per season from the Angels. The Yankees still believe they could come in under $189 million next year with McCann, Ellsbury, Cano (at their price, about $23 million per year) and Hiroki Kuroda. But they would then be unable to do a second high-priced starter, such as Masahiro Tanaka, unless Alex Rodriguez’s contract for next season comes off the books because his suspension is upheld. But the Yankees probably won’t know that until the new year, by which time most of the higher-price pieces should be gone. A club official said there are no plans to trade Brett Gardner, but instead put him in left, Ellsbury in center and build an offense around speed, on-base skills and a strong defense with two players capable of playing center. The Yankees had been engaged with Carlos Beltran to play right, but that job now probably will belong to Alfonso Soriano. It is still possible, if Cano does not work out, the Yankees could turn to Shin-Soo Choo to play right field and shift Soriano to DH. Ellsbury, 30, batted .298 with 52 stolen bases and a .781 OPS in 2013. Only two Yankees last season produced a higher OPS — Cano at .899 and Soriano at .850. Ellsbury brought speed to the Red Sox and that is what the Yankees will need from him and his 30-year-old legs. Ellsbury is a table-setter, a player who can easily go from first to third for the Yankees, who had become too slow and too old in winning 85 games last season. Ellsbury hit 32 homers in 2011, but just 13 over the last two seasons as injuries limited him to 208 games. The Yankees are surely hoping his left-handed swing will play well in Yankee Stadium. Said one AL scout Tuesday night, “Ellsbury gives the Yankees speed and makes them a better ballclub.’’ In a twist of financial fate, the small-market Mariners and Royals are making big pushes for Cano and Beltran, and Beltran’s chance to sign with the Yankees appears to be gone. The Mariners have money to spend and a desperate need for offense. It was the perception of one official from an AL team that Seattle had yet to get anywhere near the $200 million mark in bidding for Cano. If the Mariners do get there, however, the Yankees continue to insist they will not follow and will, instead, walk away and pursue other avenues. One Seattle insider said the need to bring a veteran bat to help the young hitters reach their potential has finally arrived. “It’s time to get the best bat out there,’’ the source said. The Mariners have the cash, but they always seem to finish a distant second trying to acquire free agent bats. The Yankees are sitting on their seven-year offer in the $165 million range for Cano, and have shown a willingness to go to about $170 million and put in an eighth-year option. 大意是:原來洋基完全沒有放棄189門檻(甚至仍然相信他們可以達到目標),他們也對 簽CANO展現霸氣,說會持續其他補強,如果補強完留著簽CANO的錢不夠了,他 們將會提出更低的報價或是直接放棄。 他們並不打算交易掉腿弟(Brett Gardner),而預計將他移到左外野,讓 Ellsbury守中外野。並希望Ellsbury能帶來攻擊及在壘包上速度的破壞, 而且如此一來,還能有兩位能力足以守中外野的防守球員。 水手目前還有錢可以花,且也急需要攻擊上的補強。目前還沒有聽說水手打算 準備200M的合約跟CANO談,如果水手真的打算拿出那麼高價位的合約,洋基霸 氣回應:我們不會跟進,並把眼光放在其他自由球員。 ---------- 提一點個人看法XD:CANO目前帳面成績雖然漂亮,但有時覺得以他的個性當他拿到長肥約 後,打擊跟守備還剩下幾成其實蠻難說的。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.42.96 ※ 編輯: jeffchen106 來自: 140.112.42.96 (12/04 18:01) ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: jeffchen106 (140.112.42.96), 時間: 12/04/2013 18:02:40

12/04 18:04, , 1F
"以他的個性拿到肥約打守剩幾成滿難說的" ,戰熊庹?
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12/04 18:07, , 2F
....
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12/04 18:09, , 3F
我不信
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12/04 18:10, , 4F
最後一句的個人看法,可以戰的人可多了XD
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12/04 18:11, , 5F
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12/04 18:11, , 6F
cano有時間壓力囉
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12/04 18:12, , 7F
QQ 個人看法啦XD 不認同的人就跟你們說聲抱歉啦~~
12/04 18:12, 7F

12/04 18:12, , 8F
海珊 不愛打仗 戈巴契夫 頭髮最長 洋基 最省錢 Ture?
12/04 18:12, 8F

12/04 18:12, , 9F
紐約質報
12/04 18:12, 9F

12/04 18:15, , 10F
總之我是信了
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12/04 18:28, , 11F
支持最後一句話 態度有很大的問題阿
12/04 18:28, 11F

12/04 18:31, , 12F
這些話 過去幾年常聽現金人說啊.......
12/04 18:31, 12F

12/04 18:39, , 13F
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12/04 18:39, , 14F
老闆真聰明 不喊價不殺價 直接補滿守位 對方就下跪求和了
12/04 18:39, 14F

12/04 18:41, , 15F
189M守不住了吧?
12/04 18:41, 15F

12/04 18:45, , 16F
用這種約來補滿守位,是同區球隊要稱讚老闆聰明吧 ...
12/04 18:45, 16F

12/04 19:10, , 17F
如果說沒上限一定會繼續被Cano坑一筆
12/04 19:10, 17F

12/04 19:10, , 18F
最後用這樣半逼著留下 態度也不見得會好到哪
12/04 19:10, 18F

12/04 19:13, , 19F
Cano離隊對洋基來說才是重傷吧
12/04 19:13, 19F

12/04 19:13, , 20F
Ellsbury再怎樣好都離Cano有一大段距離
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12/04 19:14, , 21F
我覺得洋基幹嘛不乾脆換血省薪資個一兩年 反正傷兵卡了
12/04 19:14, 21F

12/04 19:15, , 22F
都願意出150M簽Ellsbury了 對Cano只願意提160M?
12/04 19:15, 22F

12/04 19:16, , 23F
洋基評估的基準在哪實在讓人摸不著頭緒
12/04 19:16, 23F

12/04 19:16, , 24F
一堆爛約 兩年後省的薪資拿來大補強不是更好
12/04 19:16, 24F

12/04 19:17, , 25F
怎麼可能 紐約客不能忍受擺爛這種事
12/04 19:17, 25F

12/04 19:18, , 26F
內部應該有別的問題 不補SP 不加碼Cano 給約其他2B...
12/04 19:18, 26F

12/04 19:18, , 27F
紐約客不能忍受重建吧
12/04 19:18, 27F

12/04 19:21, , 28F
同樣7年 153M買短槍外野快腿 然後只開175M給打擊no.1的2B
12/04 19:21, 28F

12/04 19:24, , 29F
那就是紐約客現在胃口被養大了 洋基又不是沒爛過 更何況
12/04 19:24, 29F

12/04 19:24, , 30F
重建不等於擺爛
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12/04 19:25, , 31F
這邏輯真難懂 就算能減低紅襪戰力 Ellsbury也不值這麼多吧
12/04 19:25, 31F

12/04 19:25, , 32F
今年有今年的預算.今年省了不代表能轉到明年後年去用
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12/04 19:26, , 33F
何況2年後你也不確定FA上的好物是不是你缺的洞
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12/04 19:27, , 34F
更加不用提就算是洞.你挖不挖的來了
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12/04 19:27, , 35F
NY Post的東西就別拿出來笑了
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12/04 19:28, , 36F
洋基目前最大的洞不是二壘嗎?
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12/04 19:33, , 37F
洋基爛很多都是傷兵或不如預期
12/04 19:33, 37F

12/04 19:33, , 38F
如果省得太誇張一定被攻擊
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12/04 19:35, , 39F
洋基現在最大的洞是Hal
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12/04 19:36, , 40F
老闆最大 無解
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12/04 19:38, , 41F
最大的洞是老闆腦袋的洞無誤
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12/04 19:38, , 42F
現在手機門戶NP才是王道,老客戶算啥
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12/04 19:38, , 43F
所以Ellsbury 153m, Cano 160m很合理阿
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12/04 19:57, , 44F
今天簽完應該就是會破189M了吧
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12/04 20:02, , 45F
在洋基球場左打會有加乘效果啊
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12/04 20:09, , 46F
洋基外野都是腿哥 九一二連線阿
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12/04 20:12, , 47F
Ellsbury一棒 Jeter二棒 sori三棒 園丁九棒?
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12/04 20:14, , 48F
外野全左打達成...
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12/04 20:20, , 49F
Cano:我也是左打啊
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12/04 20:22, , 50F
3B:KJ 2B:Cano 1B:鐵爺(?) C:公道伯 剩SS不合群
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12/04 20:33, , 51F
看不出來洋基簽這支,價錢還這麼貴,到底想幹嘛?
12/04 20:33, 51F

12/04 20:36, , 52F
原本還覺得CANO開的價錢太貴,現在看起來也不算太貴了
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12/04 20:52, , 53F
Ellsbury這樣都拿得到22M/y 長度還7年 Cano 300M/10y瞬間
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12/04 20:52, , 54F
變成是公道價 洋基拿不出來就是打自己臉了!
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12/04 20:55, , 55F
Cano: 謝謝你 小艾
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12/04 21:01, , 56F
以現在懲罰性的豪華稅制度,個人非常好奇Cano是否拿的到2
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12/04 21:01, , 57F
00M以上的合約……
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12/04 21:03, , 58F
而且Cano是左打,若離開洋基主場……不知道數據會掉多少
12/04 21:03, 58F

12/04 21:05, , 59F
話說當年水手新建新球場時,都沒有縮短右外野全壘打牆了
12/04 21:05, 59F

12/04 21:05, , 60F
。當時媒體就在討論當家球星小狗會飛……是否將在和約到
12/04 21:05, 60F

12/04 21:05, , 61F
期後轉隊
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12/04 21:38, , 62F
189?不信
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12/04 21:52, , 63F
洋基看來決定不簽了!!!!!!!!!!!! 正確決定
12/04 21:52, 63F

12/04 22:02, , 64F
雖然沒證實但邁阿密風雲最早不是也有cano?
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12/04 22:02, , 65F
當然是傳聞而已 之後也都沒看到了
12/04 22:02, 65F

12/04 22:27, , 66F
洋基 哪有在重建的 第一天看球嗎
12/04 22:27, 66F

12/04 22:33, , 67F
簽Ells跟McCain正是NYY明年不管189M要拼季後賽的意思
12/04 22:33, 67F

12/04 22:34, , 68F
更不可能不簽Cano 只是做做樣子壓點價碼而已
12/04 22:34, 68F

12/04 22:44, , 69F
會不會是Cano面談時太拿翹 搞得洋基高層不爽?
12/04 22:44, 69F

12/04 22:46, , 70F
樓上這種無謂的猜測有什麼意義嗎
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12/04 22:54, , 71F
但就算Cano留下打線升級 輪值不補點人照樣沒戲
12/04 22:54, 71F

12/04 23:37, , 72F
紐約客不接受擺爛? NYN:
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12/04 23:37, , 73F
是NYM吧 NYN是啥?
12/04 23:37, 73F

12/04 23:51, , 74F
NYN明明也沒錯
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12/04 23:58, , 75F
National League
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12/05 00:10, , 76F
NYN 跟NYA 幾乎每年都會看到有人問....
12/05 00:10, 76F

12/05 00:17, , 77F
噓個性,X的便宜打好是應該要個長約就罪該萬死,明明凱還裝窮
12/05 00:17, 77F

12/05 00:21, , 78F
一棒NYY張建銘 二棒NYY張家浩 三棒NYY曾華偉 三快刀成型!
12/05 00:21, 78F

12/05 09:19, , 79F
洋基也不是沒重建過 只是很久以前
12/05 09:19, 79F

12/05 10:11, , 80F
NYN應該是說New York Nnicks(尼克隊) 全NBA最會簽爛約
12/05 10:11, 80F

12/05 12:47, , 81F
尼克大家都簡稱NYK吧
12/05 12:47, 81F

12/05 13:21, , 82F
NYN = NYM NYA = NYY
12/05 13:21, 82F

12/05 14:21, , 83F
挖Ellsbury多付的成本是為減低同區死敵紅襪戰力無誤
12/05 14:21, 83F

12/05 15:26, , 84F
樓上 Ellsbury本來就不被預期會留下 退路也都找好 這
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12/05 15:26, , 85F
算哪門子成本?
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12/05 16:47, , 86F
簽A級就要交選擇權,是要重建什麼啊?
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12/06 09:58, , 87F
紐約客不能忍受擺爛?尼克表示:
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