[情報] 西方人滾出去

看板MLB作者 (扎姆德)時間10年前 (2013/11/01 13:28), 編輯推噓23(23018)
留言41則, 27人參與, 最新討論串1/1
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/63501436/ 在多明尼加的海地人 長久以來被當地人視為二等公民 現在有個大麻煩降臨在他們身上 多明尼加政府決定清算透過非法移民而來的海地人 即便是出生於多明尼加的海地裔也無法倖免 海地越境過來的民眾將不被推定具多明尼加公民資格 對棒球人的影響在於美國對海地籍的簽證審查 相較於多明尼加籍的 會做較嚴苛的審查 所以,現在海地來的棒球人頭大了? Several years ago, while on a reporting trip in the Dominican Republic, I met a young coach named Chi Chi Franklin, who had spent a few years playing professionally, but like so many others, had been cast away because he simply had not been good enough. It was no indictment on Franklin. Each year, roughly 500 players are signed to professional contracts in the Dominican, and certainly not all of them will make it to play in the minors in the United States, much less make it to the majors. Franklin was one of those. In order to make a living he had latched on as a coach for a private baseball academy that trained prospects for the purpose of signing professional contracts. Franklin had a typical backstory. He had come from poverty. His parents had made a living by selling food and trinkets at a beach. The money he received from his professional contract had helped transform the financial fortunes of his family, but it certainly was not enough to keep him from having to ever work again after his baseball career had flamed out. As we talked about his background, we were interrupted by one of the young players Franklin was coaching, who said, 'Why don't you tell him you're Haitian?" The player laughed, and Franklin sheepishly looked toward the ground in embarrassment. Although Franklin was a good coach, who worked well with players, and was well liked, he could never escape the fact that his Haitian heritage made him somewhat of an outcast. Even though the younger players respected him, it didn't change the fact that he came from a segment of people commonly ostracized in the country. Franklin didn't deny his Haitian background, and in fact he was quite proud of who he was and where he came from, but telling someone that you're Haitian isn't something you commonly do because you never know how people will react. As one Dominican trainer once told me when we talked politics, "You know, we have it pretty bad here in the Dominican, but at least we're not Haiti." The relationship between the Dominican and Haiti has always, to put it mildly, been complicated, and perhaps never more than now. For the most part, Dominicans regard Haitians, many of whom emigrated to work in the country's sugar cane mills, as second class citizens. Now there is legal backing to that opinion. On Sept. 23 the Dominican's top court ruled that children of undocumented Haitian immigrants, regardless of whether they had been born in the Dominican, were no longer going to be considered Dominican citizens. Based on the recent census, more than 200,000 could be affected. Baseball in the Dominican is likely to be affected in some way. The most obvious impact would be on those playing major and minor league baseball who could lose their Dominican citizenship as a result of this new ruling, and could have difficulties renewing or acquiring a visa to play in the United States. "In general, anyone applying for a U.S. visa must present at the time of his/her interview a valid government-passport that certifies the identity and nationality of its holder for the purpose of international travel," Jeremiah Knight, spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Santo Domingo, wrote in an email. "Requirements for obtaining passports are governed by domestic laws and regulations of individual sovereign nations." Already, reports have surfaced that several children of Haitian immigrants have had problems renewing their passports because their birth certificates have been rejected by the Dominican government. A valid passport, as Knight noted, is imperative for obtaining a visa. Knight declined to comment on how the new statute could affect visas for coming into the United States. For the most part, nobody is quite sure how this process will play out. Several requests for comment to Major League Baseball, and to several MLB employees based in the Dominican Republic, were not returned. It's likely they aren't sure either how the U.S. Embassy will rule on some of these players. Right now, it's not an issue. But that could change towards the end of the year when teams try to sort out a player's paperwork for next season. While it's unlikely that established major league players could lose their status, thereby subjecting the Dominican government to a public relations nightmare, many lesser known minor league players might not be so lucky. These anonymous players could be sacrificed in order for the government to show that they are taking this ruling seriously. An alternative would be for some players to apply for Haitian citizenship, but that also carries some complications. Haiti's current immigration system is cluttered and could result in long delays, although perhaps some of these cases could be expedited with a nudge from MLB or a sponsoring team. Also, this decision would result in these Dominican-born players having to renounce the country of their birth. Perhaps under the threat of losing their baseball careers this decision seems easy. But it's a life-changing option that could have repercussions later in life when a player's career ends and they try to establish themselves back in the Dominican. The most affected would likely be unsigned amateur prospects. These players still need to establish their identity with MLB's office in the Dominican and with the U.S. Embassy. Their current paperwork -- birth certificate, identification cards -- could be rendered moot, and these players would have no prior record to fall back on when they lose their Dominican citizenship. Historically, Haitian players have always had difficulties passing Major League Baseball's identity investigation, and that could come into play should an unsigned player choose Haitian citizenship. Major League Baseball often does not trust Haitian paperwork, which can be difficult to obtain. One of baseball's top prospects, the Minnesota Twins' Miguel Angel Sano, who is Dominican born but of Haitian descent, had a difficult time proving his age and identity when he signed in 2009. Ultimately, baseball allowed him to pass its age investigation because of the lack of evidence against him, although the case still bothers several of the investigators who worked on the case, who are still not convinced of Sano's age and identity. "We have always had problems with Haitians in the DR as they are usually document deficient for age and ID purposes," said one American League team baseball executive who has scouted and signed players in the Dominican for more than 20 years. "I am not sure how this will impact that situation. I would assume that they would be deported if found out. I would guess they might be found out in the investigation and visa process. This may lead to more subterfuge or at least a variation of the older types. It also seems to me that they have to be citizens of some country to get a visa. Many have never lived in Haiti and may not be considered citizens of Haiti." Some in baseball are skeptical this law will have much of an affect at all. As of last week, Dominican courts were still trying to figure out enforcement of the ruling, which could not be appealed. It may turn out that baseball players, regarded as proud ambassadors for the country, may be immune, regardless of their heritage. "End of day it won't be enforced," said one amateur player representative. "The country isn't exactly organized. I don't see them rounding up players." --

07/11 12:28,
急拉迪緊急打了一通電話 阿扁出現在牛棚 開始熱身了
07/11 12:28

07/11 12:36,
囧 熱身中
07/11 12:36

07/11 12:36,
ら□︿ ﹍﹍﹍ ﹍﹍ ﹍﹍ ˙
07/11 12:36

07/11 12:36,
▁▂|▃▂▁
07/11 12:36

07/11 12:37,
王牌救援
07/11 12:37

07/11 12:37,
阿扁在熱身了XDDD
07/11 12:37
-- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.115.129.117

11/01 13:42, , 1F
應該是經濟造成的後果,海地太窮了,一堆人偷渡到多明尼加
11/01 13:42, 1F

11/01 13:43, , 2F
害海地棒球人跟著遭殃,嚴格來說都是同島居民
11/01 13:43, 2F
※ 編輯: Zamned 來自: 59.115.129.117 (11/01 13:47)

11/01 13:56, , 3F
兩國分占西班牙導東西兩端 不過海地是西半球第一窮
11/01 13:56, 3F

11/01 13:57, , 4F
國 加上長期政治動盪 所以很多人就會跑到東邊避難
11/01 13:57, 4F

11/01 14:41, , 5F
海地棒球員有誰?只知道NBA的Dalember
11/01 14:41, 5F

11/01 14:47, , 6F
原文有提到Miguel Sano
11/01 14:47, 6F

11/01 15:48, , 7F
海地是一堆破碎小島組成的嗎?
11/01 15:48, 7F

11/01 16:07, , 8F
海地就跟多明尼加同一個島啊,只是兩國處境差很多…
11/01 16:07, 8F

11/01 16:11, , 9F
那個島的西邊是海地東邊是多明尼加
11/01 16:11, 9F

11/01 16:11, , 10F
海地政局混亂人民生活困苦 多明尼加雖然也不是很有錢
11/01 16:11, 10F

11/01 16:12, , 11F
但是政治經濟狀況穩定
11/01 16:12, 11F

11/01 16:21, , 12F
這個島叫做西班牙島,是台灣的2.1倍大;也是世界第22大島
11/01 16:21, 12F

11/01 16:22, , 13F
該島由海地/多明尼加兩國分治;一邊講法語,一邊講西語
11/01 16:22, 13F

11/01 16:40, , 14F
我們邦交國餒
11/01 16:40, 14F

11/01 17:02, , 15F
兩國都是我們幫交的樣子~
11/01 17:02, 15F

11/01 18:27, , 16F
海地大地震時,多明尼加與海地的傷亡情況完全不能比
11/01 18:27, 16F

11/01 18:27, , 17F
據說主要原因是建築物的結構差異造成.....
11/01 18:27, 17F

11/01 18:28, , 18F
由此可以想像海地真的很窮
11/01 18:28, 18F

11/01 18:32, , 19F
都用土當餅吃了還能不窮嗎ˊˋ
11/01 18:32, 19F

11/01 18:40, , 20F
地震震央離多明尼加很遠 當然有差
11/01 18:40, 20F

11/01 18:59, , 21F
海地很早就獨立了 但是發展程度....
11/01 18:59, 21F

11/01 19:20, , 22F
想想也是 查了一下等震度圖 多明尼加的確震度不大
11/01 19:20, 22F

11/01 19:21, , 23F
但是太子港會造成十萬以上死者 跟建築還是有莫大關係
11/01 19:21, 23F

11/01 19:25, , 24F
印象中連總統府都倒掉?
11/01 19:25, 24F

11/01 20:11, , 25F
海地大地震前好像有個人去過
11/01 20:11, 25F

11/01 20:49, , 26F
海地幫也是滿兇的 聚集在邁阿密
11/01 20:49, 26F

11/01 21:21, , 27F
我同學在海地時 說他們開車前往市區採買時絕不把車窗
11/01 21:21, 27F

11/01 21:23, , 28F
搖下
11/01 21:23, 28F

11/01 21:27, , 29F
一邊把樹砍光了
11/01 21:27, 29F

11/01 21:42, , 30F
原來海地講法語@@ 我以為大部分是講當地方言。
11/01 21:42, 30F

11/01 21:43, , 31F
海地好像是中南美洲唯一一個講法語的獨立國家...
11/01 21:43, 31F

11/01 22:04, , 32F
海地是拉美第一個獨立的國家
11/01 22:04, 32F

11/01 22:04, , 33F
講法語的前殖民地區好像特別動盪?像剛果...
11/01 22:04, 33F

11/01 22:15, , 34F
那座島可是歐洲人在新世界第一個據點 只是沒想到後來會
11/01 22:15, 34F

11/01 22:15, , 35F
這麼落後
11/01 22:15, 35F

11/01 23:42, , 36F
1804年趁著拿皇帝四處打仗獨立的 繼美國後第二個獨
11/01 23:42, 36F

11/01 23:43, , 37F
立國家 不過如今卻是整個美洲最不發達的國家
11/01 23:43, 37F

11/02 02:58, , 38F
接來台灣打棒球算了
11/02 02:58, 38F

11/02 04:43, , 39F
對海地幫的印象來自GTA ViceCity 眼神對到三秒就準備掏槍了X
11/02 04:43, 39F

11/02 13:00, , 40F
非常不祝福的國家 要什麼沒什麼
11/02 13:00, 40F

11/02 15:11, , 41F
我修過3台海地人的電腦(XP盜版中蠕蟲) 祝他們好運 ...
11/02 15:11, 41F
文章代碼(AID): #1ISplynj (MLB)