[討論] Greinke真的被帶壞了嗎？

看板MLB作者shouldhave (shouldhavegone)時間12年前 (2011/10/19 16:30)推噓42(42推 0噓 3→)

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版上會出現：『Zack Greinke被Nyjer Morgan帶壞了』的這種看法，源自於#1EaGPh2t 17894 +8610/09 abc12812 □ [情報] Greinke賽前嗆聲這一篇文章。這是一個非常聳動的標題，但連到發文者給的twitter連結一看，咦，好像Greinke真的有說這樣的話。 http://twitter.com/#!/dgoold/status/122776092430958592 『 St. Louis Post-Dispatch的記者Derrick Goold在推特寫到： Greinke: "A lot of guys on our team don't like Carpenter. ... His attitude out there sometimes is like a phony attitude." #nlcs #STLcards 』 Greinke一向給人的印象就是斯文派的投手，而不是會跟人打嘴砲的類型。所以乍看之下，的確會有Greinke被帶壞了的感覺。雖然該篇文章下就已經有版友推文說這根本就是記者斷章取義，但大部分版眾的推文都往『Morgan是個壞榜樣』這個方向走去，所以似乎絕大多數版友的看法，也被這樣的說法給影響了。但事情真的是這樣嗎？版友lynked在該篇底下的推文：

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10/09 11:06,

10/09 11:06

這是一個總共有16個問題的Q&A，而真正跟紅雀或Carpenter有關的問題只有三個。以下是原文轉錄，還有我自己的翻譯： ========================================================================== 問題5 Q：After being around it for 18 matchups this season, do these two teams legitimately dislike each other? ZG：Maybe now. I think no one really likes Carpenter. But besides that, I think they respect mostly everyone on their team. Q：在本季碰頭18次之後，這兩隻球隊有互看不順眼嗎？ ZG：也許現在有吧。我有沒人喜歡Carpenter的感覺，但除此之外，我認為隊友們對紅雀絕大部分的球員都有敬意。問題11 Q：You talked about in the beginning about the rivalry with the Cardinals, for a while it was the Brewers chasing the Cardinals and now you guys are right there? ZG：I don't know what it is, but it seems like everyone always wants to make a rival with the Cardinals. Maybe just -- I don't know, I like how they play the game. I think their manager is really smart. I like how their players play. They play the game good. They hardly ever make mistakes. I don't know why it seems to be like that, but coming into Spring Training, no one liked the Cardinals on our team. And I guess the Reds didn't like them last year. And I mean, I don't understand it, but a lot of guys respect how they do it and a lot of guys get mad at them. Q：你剛剛談到與紅雀的競爭。之前都是釀酒人在追趕紅雀，而現在你們只缺臨門一腳？ ZG：我也不知道究竟是怎麼一回事，但我感覺全隊都一直想把紅雀當成對頭看。也許是... 我也不知道。我欣賞他們的打法。我覺得紅雀的教練很棒。我喜歡他們球員打球的風格。他們打得很好，而且幾乎不會犯錯。我不知道為什麼會是這樣，不過從春訓一開始，我們隊就沒人喜歡紅雀了。紅人去年好像也不喜歡紅雀的樣子。我真的不懂，很多人對他們打球的風格抱有敬意，也有很多人對他們不爽。問題16 就是Derrick Goold推特節錄那段的來源。 Q：So what do the guys have against Carpenter? ZG：I don't know. They think his presence, his attitude out there sometimes is like a phony attitude. But -- and then he yells at people. He just stares people down and stuff. And most pitchers just don't do that. And when guys do, I guess some hitters get mad. Some hitters do it to pitchers. But when you do that some people will get mad. There's other pitchers in the League that do it, but, I don't know, a lot of guys on our team don't like Carpenter. Q：所以你的隊友們到底看Carpenter哪裡不順眼？ ZG：我不知道耶。他們覺得有時Carpenter在場上的態度是假正經。但..他又會跟別人對嗆。還會跟別人互瞪這樣。大部分的投手都不會這樣做。而當有投手這樣做時，我想有些打者會不爽。有些打者也會這樣做（指跟投手對嗆、互瞪），當他們這樣做時，有些人也會不爽。聯盟裡也有別的投手會做這種動作，但，我不知道為什麼，我們隊上很多人不喜歡Carpenter。 ========================================================================= 我想，看了原文之後應該不難發現，很清楚的，Zack Greinke不過是回答了記者的一個問題。而不是他自己主動在嗆說『喔，我們覺得Carpenter假正經(phoney)』。這很明顯的是記者自己斷章取義，要人去看他推特上的聳動標題罷了。其實不只版眾們被Derrick Goold的這的推特文誤導了，滿多外電也都只是引述這個推特文，而不是做完整的報導。所以，怎麼說呢？雖然台灣的記者爛的多好的少，但也不是所有國外的記者就一定都有新聞人的自律自覺。唉。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 69.172.165.76

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