[翻譯] A peek at David Price

看板MLB作者 (supergary)時間15年前 (2008/10/21 00:28), 編輯推噓38(38014)
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在翻譯這篇文章的同時,我有寄了封email給文章的作者Josh Kalk,THT網站上的 "Anatomy of a player: ....."這一系列的文章就是他所寫的。我問他是否能寫一篇 "Anatomy of a player: Hong-Chih Kuo",結果Josh答應我了,他說最近忙著寫其他THT 的文章,不過沒問題,會盡量在10月的時候就完成分析小小郭的文章。 After carving up the Southeastern Conference, David Price was the No. 1 overall selection by the Rays in 2007. Price didn't sign until the deadline, so he didn't pitch in the minors until this year. Price started out at high Single-A ball in the Florida State League but he quickly moved up to Double-A before a few innings at the end of the year at Triple-A. Price pitched so well in the minors that he earned a September call-up. After 14 innings and an ERA under 2.00, Price found himself on the playoff roster. 在屠殺了東南聯盟後,David Price在2007年選秀會上被光芒隊在第一順位選中。Price一 直到了最後期限才與光芒隊簽約,所以去年並沒有在小聯盟出賽。Price從佛羅里達聯盟 的高階1A球隊出發,但是很快的就升上2A,在球季末又升上3A並投了幾局。由於在小聯盟 的投球成績優異,使得Price在九月份被升上大聯盟。在大聯盟投了14局,且留下2.00自 責分率的成績後,Price成為了季後賽球員名單中的一員。 After not pitching in the opening series against the White Sox, Price has pitched in both games of the ALCS against the Red Sox and he picked up the win in Game 2. Rays manager Joe Maddon obviously has a lot of confidence in Price and is willing to use him in important situations. Because he pitched sparingly in the regular season, few people are familiar with his stuff, especially as a reliever. So here is a quick look at what Price throws. 在面對白襪隊的首輪比賽中,Price並沒有出賽,他在面對紅襪隊的美聯冠軍賽中出賽了 兩場,並拿下了第二戰的勝投。Joe Maddon很顯然的對Price充滿信心,並且願意在關鍵 時刻派他上場。由於在正規季賽出賽不多,所以大部分的人對於擔任後援投手的Price的 球威不太熟悉。我們迅速的瀏覽一下Price會投哪些球路。 Since he is such a highly regarded prospect, there is a ton of information about David Price on the web. Here are a couple of nice scouting reports, an excellent interview this year by our own Brandon Isleib and a mechanics breakdown by Carlos Gomez. 由於他是受到高度矚目的新秀,在網路上有一大堆關於David Price的資訊。這裡有兩個 很棒的球探報告,由Branson Islieb在今年做的訪問與Carlos Gomez的技術分析。 David Price's stuff David Price的球威 Because Price has worked out of the bullpen for all but one of his appearances this year, he has been basically a two-pitch pitcher: fastball and hard slider. He apparently also has a slurvy slider which he hasn't thrown in the big leagues and an improving change-up which he has used very sparingly. Here is a look at his movement chart. Price今年都是以牛棚投手的身分出賽,基本上來說他是一位只投兩種球路的投手: 快速 球與快速滑球。很顯然的他還會投滑曲球,但是在大聯盟尚未使用過這個球種,另外 Price也很少使用正在進步中的變速球。這裡是他的球路位移量圖。 Price's fastball is his bread and butter right now. Previous scouting reports put this pitch in the low 90s, but working out of the bullpen Price has dialed this pitch up to 95.5 mph on average. There are a scant few lefties in the league who can touch 95 mph, much less work there, so this is a huge weapon for Price. And as if 95 mph wasn't enough, he is showing excellent movement, generating 5.5 inches of horizontal break away from a right-handed batter compared to a ball thrown without spin. If he threw nothing but fastballs out of the bullpen. he likely could have a long, productive career— his fastball is that good. Price的快速球是他目前在大聯盟求生存的武器。之前的球探報告指出他的快速球球速大 約為90mph出頭,但是擔任牛棚投手時,Price的快速球平均速度提升至95.5mph。在聯盟 中沒有幾位左投手能投出95mph的球速,所以快速球是Price最重要的武器。除了95mph的 球速外,這個球路還擁有優異的尾勁,和不旋轉的球相比,具有5.5吋偏離右打者的水平 位移。如果他在離開牛棚後只投快速球,他很有可能會有個長期且優秀的生涯 - 他的快 速球就是這麼的棒。 The difference between a solid pitcher and truly dominant pitcher, though, is in his off-speed offerings. Right now, Price's off-speed pitches aren't exactly at that level. The slider he is using is a hard one that offers no horizontal movement to speak of and little vertical difference from his fastball. Price has been using his slider nearly equally to left- and right-handed batters and mostly later in the count. For this pitch to become an effective strikeout pitch, he is going to have to get more swings and misses with it, but it doesn't offer the kind of movement it takes to consistently fool big league hitters. 穩定可靠的投手與具有支配比賽能力的投手之間的差別在於變化球的水準。目前Price的 變化球威力稍嫌不足。Price所投的滑球屬於快速滑球,不具有水平位移,與他的快速球 將相比有少許的垂直位移。他在面對左打與右打者時使用滑球的比率接近,並且幾乎都是 在球數領先時才會使用。為了要讓這個滑球成為能夠有效三振打者的球路,他必須讓打者 在面對他的滑球時揮更多的空棒,但是目前滑球的位移量似乎不足以持續騙到大聯盟打者 。 Price threw his change-up only three times in the 201 pitches that PITCHf/x tracked in the regular season. He has been used as a situational lefty, and since it is uncommon to see a lefty/lefty change-up it isn't too surprising that he hasn't used this pitch more. What we can see even from this small sample is that Price throws a straight change-up; it has similar movement to his fastball compared to the down and away movement that we see from a circle change. 根據正規球季的PITCHf/x資料,Price在201球中只投了3球變速球。他是在擔任功能性左 投時所投的,雖然左投對左打投出變速球比較不常見,不過對於他不太使用這個球種也不 用感到太驚訝。從這個少許的樣本中我們可以看出Price所投的是直墜變速球;他的變速球 具有與快速球相似的下墜與水平位移,類似我們常見的圈只變速球。 Price generates about a nine mph differential between his fastball and his change-up. which is good, but scouting reports say he has trouble locating the pitch and indeed all three of his tracked change-ups were out of the zone. On the positive side, he did throw all three change-ups early in the count, so he is aware that when he does throw that pitch he is looking for strikes with it. Price的快速球與變速球間大約有9mph的速差。算是不錯的速差,但是球探報告中卻指出 他對變速球的控制能力大有問題,而他所投的3顆變速球也的確都在好球帶外。從正面角 度來看,這三顆變速球都是在球數領先前投的,這代表他希望用變速球來搶好球數。 Comparison to Sabathia and Kazmir 對照 Sabathia 與 Kazmir I think the best potential comparisons when projecting David Price are to fellow lefties CC Sabathia and Scott Kazmir. For starters, all three throw a fastball, slider and straight change-up. While there are obviously some current differences in the way they pitch, these are two potential outcomes for Price. 我認為在研究David Price時,最佳的對照為CC Sabathia與Scott Kazmir。身為先發投手 ,這三位都會投快速球,滑球與直墜變速球。很顯然地雖然他們的投球方式目前有些不同 ,但是另外這兩位投手是Price未來有可能成為的類型。 Kazmir is shorter and not as big as Price or Sabathia, but he still gets his fastball up near 93 mph with a slider that is eerily similar to Price's. The difference here is Kazmir doesn't rely on his slider and uses it much less in strikeout situations. Kazmir個子比較矮,不像Price與Sabathia那樣高大,但是他仍然能將他的快速球維持在 將近93mph的球速,再搭配上與Price類似的滑球。差別是Kazmir不依賴他的滑球,且較少 在有三振機會時投滑球。 Kazmir doesn't need a dominant slider because he has a dominant change-up and he is mostly facing right-handed batters. Kazmir gets a ridiculous 13 mph differential between his fastball and his change-up, which gives gravity plenty of time to naturally drop it, fooling batters with the similar spin to his fastball. It will be interesting to see if Price can pick Kazmir's brain and develop a nasty change-up of his own. It seems like Kazmir should be able to help, since they both appear to throw from nearly the same arm slot and both are using the straight change. 由於Kazmir具有優異的變速球,而且他大多數面對的是右打者,所以他不需要優異的滑球 。Kazmir的變速球與快速球的速差達到13mph,這使得地心引力有較長的時間使球自然下 墜,打者會因為這顆球與快速球相似的旋轉而上當。如果能見到Price發展出一顆屬於自 己的變態變速球將會很有意思。看起來Kazmir似乎可以幫得上忙,因為他們兩人的出手角 度相近,且都使用直墜變速球。 Like Sabathia, Price is a tall lefty with some bulk. Both have very live fastballs in terms of movement and velocity. Sabathia's change-up is a little more polished than Price's, but the tools are very similar. What differentiates Price from Sabathia now is Sabathia's crazy-good slider. Price與Sabathia一樣是擁有龐大身軀的高個子左投。以位移與球速的觀點來看,兩人都 擁有非常靈活的快速球。Sabathia的變速球則比Price的好一些,但是基本上兩人的武器 是相同的。Price與Sabathia不同的是Sabathia有顆極為優異的滑球。 While Price and Kazmir both feature hard sliders without much movement, Sabathia takes a little more off his and generates more than five inches of horizontal slide with it. That is a truly dominant strikeout pitch, so with hitters frightened of getting to two strikes on Sabathia, you see them swinging at a lot of fastballs early in the count. That seems like a good thing, but actually hitting a 95 mph fastball with good horizontal movement the other direction well is not easy. Price has that kind of fastball too, so if he can develop a Sabtahia-esque slider he can put the same pressure on hitters. Price與Kazmir投的都是位移量不多的快速滑球,Sabathia依賴的則是他那顆水平位移超 過5吋的滑球。這是一顆極具有勢的三振球路,所以打者很怕在面對Sabathia時面臨兩好 球的局面,所以他們在球數領先前揮擊了很多快速球。這似乎是件好事,但是要打好具有 優異水平位移的 95mph快速球不是那麼容易。Price也擁有那樣的快速球,所以如果他能 發展出一顆類似Sabathia的滑球,那麼他也能帶給打者相同的壓力。 Conclusions 結論 At just 22, David Price still has a lot of room to grow as a pitcher. If either his change-up or his slider develops into a plus pitch, look out, because he has a fastball that already can make hitters look foolish. As is, he can be an overpowering reliever with a fastball that by itself will be hard to catch up with. While he can mix in a slider on occasion, it isn't a pitch that is going to consistently get major league hitters out. David Price才22歲,所以還有很大的成長空間。由於他的快速球已經足以對付打者,如 果他的變速球或滑球能進步成為一顆優於平均水準的球路,打者就得小心了。目前Price 是一位快速球讓打者揮棒難以趕上的後援投手。儘管他偶而會搭配滑球,但是這個球路還 無法持續的解決大聯盟打者。 I think the role as a situational lefty is a good one for Price right now, as he doesn't have to worry about throwing his change-up, which clearly is his third best pitch. Just go out and throw strikes with the fastball and see if lefties can hit it. 我相信功能性左投目前對Price而言是一個很適合的角色,他不需要擔心投他的第三號球 路變速球。Price只需要放手將快速球投進好球帶,看看左打者到底能不能打的到。 原文 http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/a-sneak-peak-at-david-price/ -- NG Life...(我翻譯的一些MLB相關文章) http://www.gary711.net http://gary711.idv.st -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.117.180.207 ※ 編輯: supergary 來自: 122.117.180.207 (10/21 00:29)

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頭推
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原PO GJ!!
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頸推
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偷放閃光連結 http://0rz.tw/7c4Uw
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Good job rooting Kuo!@
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梅登:這個局我布了10場之久阿~詰詰
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好文
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感謝
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科 不知道Price跟我們家Kershaw以後誰比較威
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推阿
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他不是有100mph嘛 還是我記錯
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PUSH
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我覺得kershaw未來性更佳
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kershaw目前完成度比較高吧?!
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上過大學的Price完成度比較高吧。
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Price1985年生 Kershaw1988年 論未來性的話Kershaw較佳
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好文 好期待 kuo 的分析文章
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今年Kershaw甚至有些被rush了
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不過Price 明年應該就可以擠進光芒rotation了
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Kershaw目前他的曲球比Price的滑球好不少吧~~
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不知道他今天被壓得還好嗎 囧
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我覺得他今天投球的感覺很像小小郭XD
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所以Price不是被當先發養嗎?...
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Kuo只要保持健康應該就是殺遍MLB了...XD
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Kuo年輕的時候 就是像Price Kershaw這兩隻ㄧ樣
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Kuo剛被LA簽下時.被看好很快就能上MLB.且有機會練成大物
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kuo..現在也沒很老....
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1981年生 現在就被說年輕的時候...XDDD
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Kuo...全身上下都很年輕.但左手肘很老了..><
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郭去美國九個年頭了....
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跟那兩隻比是老了阿= = 不過他的經驗值跟1985的差不多
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推左手肘很老 orz
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我怎麼覺得評價看起來不怎麼好 囧 lo 90s + 角度太小
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的slider 和進度不明的change...
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我不玩卡...可是推文裡的連結真是屌到翻
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希望有生之年可以看到kuo變成closer..
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希望有生之年看到kuo完整的在rotation裡待滿一季
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推樓上~他能成為SP是最好不過了
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他手適合當SP嗎? = =
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比起在牛棚不定時熱身,規律的SP也許還好一點
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當closer要連三天登板的話,我實在是很擔心郭的手臂Q_Q
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現在的道奇大小聯盟,球員教練沒幾個比郭在道奇待得久
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郭看盡道奇球團人來人去,潮起潮落 不為所動啊 XD
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希望有生之年可以看到kuo變成道奇總教練
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樓上結論超有趣
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希望有生之年可以看到kuo變成道奇GM
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希望有生之年可以看到kuo變成道奇防護員
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希望有生之年可以看到kuo變成K-You-All!
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希望有生之年可以看到Kuo變成道奇owner
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希望有生之年可以看到Kuo變成MLB救援紀錄保持者
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希望有生之年可以看到kuo比kuofax還威!!
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漏氣 拼錯了koufax才對
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