[討論] 誰的快速球最難打？

看板MLB作者 (Sudba tseloveka)時間15年前 (2008/08/28 19:17), 編輯推噓33(33推 0噓 7→)
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08/28 19:20, , 1F
MO只有直球...尾勁卻飛來飛去, 帥呀
08/28 19:20, 1F
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08/28 19:37, , 2F
MO:Fastball only!!
08/28 19:37, 2F
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08/28 19:51, , 3F
MO: wut is breaking ball??
08/28 19:51, 3F
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08/28 19:53, , 4F
他的對手可以嗆他，就是因為沒變化球才會先發轉後援
08/28 19:53, 4F
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08/28 19:54, , 5F
MO會嗆回去　我不用變化球就把打者吃死死
08/28 19:54, 5F
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08/28 19:54, , 6F
I can't 魂!!!!
08/28 19:54, 6F
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08/28 19:55, , 7F
先發是0:0開始唷
08/28 19:55, 7F
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08/28 19:59, , 8F
我很想知道寶貝碰用直球的比率到底多高 GAMEDAY上都是連發
08/28 19:59, 8F
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08/28 19:59, , 9F
有沒有Kuo的？
08/28 19:59, 9F
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08/28 20:01, , 10F
Papelbon 直球比率大概80%
08/28 20:01, 10F
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08/28 20:02, , 11F
Kuo還不是CL
08/28 20:02, 11F
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08/28 20:03, , 12F
補上小小郭的數據
08/28 20:03, 12F
※ 編輯: abc12812 來自: 140.112.5.3 (08/28 20:04)
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08/28 20:05, , 13F
Kuo直球果然很威
08/28 20:05, 13F
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08/28 20:05, , 14F
那我補上Kuo使用比例~y
08/28 20:05, 14F
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08/28 20:05, , 15F
Kuo 的 WPA/LI 也排很前面
08/28 20:05, 15F
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08/28 20:06, , 16F
Fastball 79.7% Curve 9.5% Slider 10.72%
08/28 20:06, 16F
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08/28 20:11, , 17F
Kuo的速球打不到 所以專挑其他球種打嗎XDD
08/28 20:11, 17F
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08/28 20:12, , 18F
這裡的fastball應該不單指直球吧 應該還包含sinker cutter...
08/28 20:12, 18F
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08/28 20:14, , 19F
Yes 大體算成直球系
08/28 20:14, 19F
※ abc12812:轉錄至看板 HCKuo 08/28 20:25
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08/28 20:32, , 20F
真的不解Halladay的Slider為什麼第三>/////<
08/28 20:32, 20F
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08/28 21:04, , 21F
樓上為什麼要害羞
08/28 21:04, 21F
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08/28 21:16, , 22F
其實是 ＞(>/////<)＜ : 力爭的動作
08/28 21:16, 22F
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08/28 21:22, , 23F
假日根本不常投滑球是要爭什麼= =
08/28 21:22, 23F
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08/28 21:29, , 24F
所以印像很重要(茶
08/28 21:29, 24F
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08/28 21:31, , 25F
印象才是王道 數據走開XD
08/28 21:31, 25F
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08/28 21:32, , 26F
數據只是簡單加減乘除 印象是人腦複雜的運算成果!!XD
08/28 21:32, 26F
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08/28 21:41, , 27F
印象中去年的齋籐大叔好像也很扯？
08/28 21:41, 27F
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08/28 21:54, , 28F
齋藤大叔不是六打60%揮空嗎@@?
08/28 21:54, 28F
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08/28 21:54, , 29F
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08/28 21:54, 29F
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08/28 22:40, , 30F
Kuo 太帥啦
08/28 22:40, 30F
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08/28 22:58, , 31F
請問有沒有Smoltz的slider被打擊率啊？　超有興趣的:3
08/28 22:58, 31F
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08/28 23:28, , 32F
數據才是王道～印象只會造成偏見
08/28 23:28, 32F
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08/29 00:16, , 33F
Kuo的速球果然是王道…但其它種球種就鳥掉了...
08/29 00:16, 33F
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08/29 00:17, , 34F
我印象中Kuo被打長打都是slider或curve ball
08/29 00:17, 34F
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08/29 00:19, , 35F
我想看穆帥的彈指球
08/29 00:19, 35F
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08/29 00:21, , 36F
想知道松阪的數據～～～嘻....
08/29 00:21, 36F
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08/29 00:37, , 37F
fastball包含四縫線、二縫線和卡特球
08/29 00:37, 37F
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08/29 01:52, , 38F
嗯~~WOOD的滑球~~
08/29 01:52, 38F
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08/29 08:41, , 39F
扁食只有2種球路??
08/29 08:41, 39F
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08/29 12:30, , 40F
Wood曲球就很可怕了 滑球更是......
08/29 12:30, 40F
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