[閒聊] Chauster回應CLG抓馬消失

看板LoL作者時間9年前 (2015/05/15 09:39), 9年前編輯推噓71(71推 0噓 47→)
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http://goo.gl/c65DMS 原文很長，我只截老查對DL的看法 Doublelift – As a player, Doublelift is someone who can click accurately very fast. That is pretty much the most accurate summary of Doublelift that I can give you. When I played with Doublelift, he was basically a tool that you micromanaged, either in lane or in game. I taught him everything you need to know about laning, and then some. Eventually, he became an extension of myself (in lane at least), which was a very good thing. I tried to teach Double how to be more impactful game wise but it is very hard to get through to his head. The best example that I remember is after taking a tower early game, Double (Caitlyn) farmed wraiths and wolves on cooldown because it was “ impossible to take mid tower versus an orianna” 3v1 as she had “wave clear” . Despite the fact that every team rotates mid to pressure towers no matter who their mid lane is due to virtue of numbers. Because of me, Double is now a very strong laner, but I think that is where his identity ends. Double’s view on the game and lanes is probably the single most baffling thing about him. His opinions at times are not justified in the slightest, and can change completely based on random whims. There really isn’t much more to say about Double from my perspective because with my time on CLG Double was always under my wing and that never changed in my perspective, but from his it obviously did. Tl;dr I taught Doublelift how to lane; could not teach him how to play the game 簡易亂翻:老查覺得DL有操作，但是遊戲智商不高。老查有試著教DL如何掌握這個遊戲， 但是這些東西很難進到DL的腦袋裡。DL現在對線很強，不過這大概也是他的最終定位了。 他教DL怎麼對線，但是卻教不了DL怎麼"贏"這款遊戲。 -- 我覺得我是世界上最強的ＬＯＬ玩家 ＷＯＴＡＳＳＡＣＴＣ ◥▁▁▁▁ ◢ 戰 其他的全部都是＿＿ ＥＭＰＨＳＫＬ９ＳＬ ◤ ██ ／- 神 如果各位有興趣的話可以加入我們ＣＬＧ 戰ＧＡＱＢＴＬ戰ＭＧ □–□◢◤ Ｄ 但是至少要17歲菁英前50還要開實況測試 隊戰戰戰戰戰戰隊戰戰 ▼ㄑ ◢ Ｌ 最重要的是不要扯我的後腿　　　　　　 隊隊隊隊隊隊　隊隊 ▼ㄧ ／◣ 不過如果訂閱我的頻道，那你就不再是＿＿了！ ◢ /◣– ◤ /█◣ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.185.85.106 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/LoL/M.1431653949.A.962.html
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老查參戰
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果然綜藝
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一梯退三步
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求更多嗜血抓馬
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結論也翻一下啦
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老查覺得CLG需要一個強勢的教練，能壓過選手的
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老茶現在在幹嘛?
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最早的工具人出現啦
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其實Xpecial參戰了,還是用影片XDDDDD
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補個 https://goo.gl/4VyUbf ※ 編輯: gg3b0 (111.185.85.106), 05/15/2015 09:50:40
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老查：我在clg的時候DL很乖啊 哪像壞孩子
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唉 連老查都這樣說了 迷迷還在執迷不悟
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dl還真是形象鮮明的一個人- -
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初代工具人表示:
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這件事情全世界都知道阿
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這段話對抓馬沒有進展啊 大師兄自己也知道的事
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DL很多觀念很糟糕是好幾年如一日的事情 我還以為
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他是出來爆啥料www
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老查這篇其實重點是在喚醒CLG迷的回憶啊,每個時期跟
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你忘了DL的 FACECHECK嗎 XD 不過我還是愛DL
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結果老查根本沒說什麼阿..
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選手,還有真‧黃金時代-jiji,HSGG,SV,DL,老查
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DL成名技 facecheck
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DL遊戲智商低的問題絕對不只facecheck，認真要分析
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真黃金時代是 HS JIJI Chauster Kobe24 Element
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應該也可以像之前Link那篇一樣寫一整篇分n的topic
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這哪是爆料 只是敘述事情而已(?
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n"個"topic然後總長好幾千字的文章...
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老查的CLG回憶錄 ※ 編輯: gg3b0 (111.185.85.106), 05/15/2015 09:58:18
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大概就是LOL版本的Kobe吧 很會自幹 但團隊就要以他
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只是facecheck太經典所以比較常被提到而已...
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有xp的重點整理嗎XD
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當核心才行
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無掛
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所以這篇實質內容含量真的不高~~~或者說他講的
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Xpecial基本上只是說link這樣很不應該而已
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基本上大概就是全世界有多看一些LOL的人都知道的事
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SV:我的爆米花吃完了。
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現在局勢還是完全link<<<<DL
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還有 42 則推文
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現在不是就DL>>>>>>>Link嗎??
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CLG的黃金時代是沒有DL的 DL加入時JIJI已經交女友了
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這篇另一個重點是老查根本愛jiji www
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不過倒也是真的 隊伍需要一個能調劑氣氛的人
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jiji is love. jiji is life.
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想看整篇文但是英文超爛只看的懂一半QQ
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jiji hotshot sv都是交女友而散 :(
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JIJI跟全部隊員都很好吧
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DL加入的時候CLG全員下滑中阿
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老查自承開創了噴隊友 不練習 學長是對的學弟不要吵
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CLG needs someone with authority that takes
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所以dl只是個對線強的低能兒?
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no shit from their players, much like me
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老查自己也會噴Locodoco阿
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其實整篇文老查就是想表達這句話而已
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這...等於啥都沒說阿 dl操作好其他爛不是全世界都知
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jiji HS 老查 老元素 SV 各種時代眼淚...
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這幾個老將裡面 我還真的覺得只有元素不算時代眼淚
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本來就不是操作型選手 之前又爆不苦練 跑東跑西的
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另外SV的call看起來有組織 有條理 或說 是霸道
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jiji跟HSGG好長一篇 :P
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但是和HS一起的時候 衝突太大啦
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所以老查才說從SV之後就再也沒有適合CLG的JG了...
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HS如果早一步走下神壇 緩和SV的衝突 說不定CLG不一
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另外 老查說的DL的缺點 DL在他的文章裏面也承認是
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是自己的缺點 兩相印證下來 Link的爆料缺乏背書阿
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還以為是打星海那個雀茶
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CLG抓馬冠軍
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胖虎還沒放話喔，還在選JG嗎
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DL應該去打輔助...
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CLG吵最兇大概是老查 DL SV HSGG都當先發的時期
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每個人都覺得自己很屌講話都很大聲
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連最爛的HSGG賽後檢討講話都超大聲，因為他是老板
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趕快辦電競閒聊BAR.NA XDDD
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= = 老查講得很中肯 有人沒看就以為在罵DL?
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其實xpecial講的很中肯 沒人要翻？
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剛剛Aphro在實況裡說他不會發文回應了
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sv是誰啊？ 找都找不到
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SaintVicious
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竟然有人在問sv是誰了 真的已成時代眼淚 T_T
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