[外電] Ten Takeaways from Lakers Preseason

看板Lakers作者 (IG)時間6年前 (2017/10/16 23:48), 6年前編輯推噓40(40058)
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原文:https://goo.gl/KjV21N 1. Brandon Ingram needs to slow down and let the game come to him. It’s no coincidence that once Ingram admitted that he was putting pressure on himself to live up to the work he put in over the summer (as well as some of the expectations Magic Johnson shoveled onto him) and then stopped forcing the action, he started to play better. Ingram is not yet a go-to scorer and is much better served being a secondary scoring option who combines his natural affinity for being a ball mover with hunting his own shots. When he started to slow down, play with less urgency to get his own shot, and instead took what the defense gave him he looked much more like the player who closed last season on a surge. More of that once the real games start, please. IG這段跟版上討論的差不多。IG背負了壓力;很想要將休賽季苦練的呈現出來、 也有來自魔術的談話所造成的壓力。但IG還沒辦法成為go-to scorer,目前適合他的定位 是第二進攻選擇。IG必須slow down,不再躁進的進攻、找到他的投射。 Let the game come to him. 2. Brook Lopez is the team’s best half-court scoring weapon. The Lakers want to play fast, but that’s much harder when you’re taking the ball out of the bottom of the hoop to start offensive possessions. This is where Brook Lopez’ s ability to be a fulcrum of half-court offense will really come in handy. Whether it’s direct post ups, duck-ins after setting screens/pin downs, running pick and rolls or pick and pops, operating as a catch and shoot player, or just plain isolating from the mid/high post, Lopez has a complete scoring arsenal. No other Laker has this much versatility in the halfcourt and coaches would be well served to feature him for the 25-30 minutes he’s on the floor each night. Lopez是隊上最好的半場進攻武器、半場進攻中的優勢點。他可以低位、打擋拆時roll 進禁區或pop out、在外圍做C&S以及iso。在半場進攻中,湖人陣中沒有其他球員像Lopez 一樣擁有如此多元的進攻技巧,教練團應讓他每晚有25-30分鐘的上場時間。 3.The Lakers defense remains…a work in progress. Early in the preseason, a lack of effort combined with some simplistic schemes to ensure the team was not equipped to handle the likes of the Nuggets and Timberwolves. Those teams swung the ball, ran some 5-out action that pressured the Lakers Centers to defend the three point line, and they just weren’t prepared for it. As the preseason advanced, the team got better in their execution for longer stretches, but still had too many breakdowns — both mental and physical. They need to play harder and smarter for longer. As a young team, the latter is to be expected, but the coaches are surely going to harp making sure the former is done more often. And if players don’t comply, I’m going to bet they see their minutes cut. 湖人的防守還有很長~~~~~的路要走。在熱身賽剛開始時,缺乏努力和簡單的防守策略的結 果就是湖人無法抵擋金塊和灰狼。兩支球隊移轉球、跑5-out迫使湖人的C必須防守到外圍 -那時湖人尚未演練到的區塊。隨著熱身賽的進行,情況有了改善,但顯然還遠遠不夠。 湖人必須在防守上打得更努力和聰明、並且將這兩者持續下來。作為年輕的球隊,犯錯是 可以預期的,但在防守端持續努力的付出是教練團必須確保的,如果有球員無法執行,就 砍了他的上場時間吧~ 4. Kyle Kuzma is legit!!!!! 5. There’s little, if anything, that tells me Tyler Ennis is a better backup PG for this team than Alex Caruso. Ennis is a fine enough reserve guard and is probably getting a bit more of a bad rap than he deserves after having to start the team’s final 4 preseason games due to Lonzo’s injury. That said, the things Ennis does well, Caruso can do too. The things that Caruso does well or the attributes he has, Ennis can’t replicate as easily. Caruso has more size, is better on both backboards as a rebounder, has better instincts as a throw-ahead player and passer generally, and does more things defensively. This shouldn’t excuse Caruso’s flaws as a player, but if you’ re asking me to say which PG would be my choice to backup Ball, it would be Caruso. 在替補pg上,Ennis做得好的,Caruso做的一樣好。而Caruso能做好的,Ennis則無法輕易 的複製。Caruso在體型、籃板、防守端的付出都有較好的表現。而且Caruso本能上是傳球 優先。如果尋求作者的意見,他會選擇Caruso作為替補pg。 6.Speaking of Caruso and Ennis, the Lakers probably need 3 point guards on this roster (including Lonzo). I’m not calling Ball injury prone (that’d be silly) and I’m sure the Lakers were being extra cautious with him considering the lowered stakes of preseason. That said, he missed over a week and 4 games with an ankle sprain that was originally diagnosed as “mild”. Again, I will give a certain amount of benefit of the doubt to the coaches and doctors here. But, with the shift in style this year, the point guard spot will be extra important to what the team wants to do offensively. If Ball were to miss any time during the season, having Caruso and Ennis around will be a necessity. It’s good that Caruso is on a two-way contract. 談PG位置所需要的深度,由於需要對Ball謹慎的保護以及現代球風下pg對球隊進攻 端的重要性,如果Ball在季中有缺賽的情形;Caruso和Ennis的存在就有其必要。 7. Larry Nance may not be the best PF on the roster, but he plays better when he starts. I’ll say more about this in the coming days, but the case for Nance being the starter at that spot may just be it’s how you get the most out of him as a player. Whether that’s the best strategy for the team is a different discussion… Nance不是隊中最好的PF,但他先發時打得比較好。作為球員,在先發的位置Nance能充分 的發揮他的價值。但(Nance先發)對球隊來說是否是最好的策略就是不一樣的討論了。 8. Julius Randle hasn’t necessarily “improved” as a player, but being in better shape is going to help in a lot of little ways that will show up both in the boxscore and with the eye test. He’s able to run harder and change ends better, he’s able to rotate better defensively, and he’s able to challenge more shots when on the back line as a rim protector. He’s also playing with more confidence as a jumpshooter. Does this mean his right hand is better or that his jumpshot actually is better or that he’s going to finish over length inside better? No. And if you focus only on those things, you might think Randle hasn’t actually gotten better. But if you watch some of those other things — things that matter, by the way — you’ll see an improved guy. I’m looking forward to watching him this year. Randle還沒有確切的進步,在球技上。但精實的體態的確在許多小細節上幫助到Randle, 在box及觀看比賽時都能呈現出來。Randle在攻防上能夠移動得更快速、作為護框者試圖 防守更多對面進攻籃框的出手。同時對他的跳投更有信心。但這就表示Randle的右手、跳 投、進入禁區面對高大的防守者完成進攻都變得更好嗎?不。如果檢視這些,會覺得 Randle還沒有變得更好(熱身賽裡)。但在其他方面,會看到進步。 9. There are too many bigs on this roster. Andrew Bogut didn’t play a minute this preseason, Brook Lopez missed several games, and there were still not enough minutes at C. I mean, Lopez is going to play 25-30 minutes a night. Julius Randle is going to see minutes at C. Zubac is good enough to play there. And Bogut wasn’t brought in to never play. That’s 4 players. When you add PF to the mix, you have Randle (again), Nance, Kuzma, and you can even throw in Deng to that mix of guys who can play that spot effectively. Swapping a big for another wing at some point should be a priority. 談湖人禁區充足的人手。 10. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope can do some things as a secondary playmaker and he needs to be used as such. He shows nice passing acumen in the P&R and has already shown some chemistry with both Randle and Lopez when running that action. He doesn’t offer a bunch of shake at the point of attack and the rate at which his 3 point shot was falling might concern if it continues into the regular season, but for a team that needs as much playmaking on the floor as possible, KCP looks like someone who can fill in some gaps there. KCP可以擔任secondary playmaker,他已經在P&R展現不錯的傳球而且和Randle、Lopez產 生一些chemistry。需要擔心的如果開季後他的三分還是找不到準星,但對於一支在場上 盡可能需要更多playmaking的球隊來說,KCP看起來是能補起一些缺口的。 11. (Bonus) The Lakers don’t have enough shooting. As it stands, the only players who project to be league average 3 point shooters at a reasonable volume are Lopez, Kuzma, and KCP. Ingram does not look like he’s there yet and Lonzo remains an unknown here. I think Ennis can hit the long ball, but I doubt he takes enough of these for it to matter. Clarkson looks like the same caliber shooter he’s been to this point in his career. Last year’s team wasn ’t a great shooting team overall, but Nick Young and Lou Williams were really good. D’Angelo Russell was not at their level, but was a threat out there. None of those guys are on the team anymore and it’s going to be noticeable when we’re dissecting what challenges this team has offensively this year. 老問題,三分。預估能達到聯盟水準的三分射手是Lopez、Kuz、KCP。IG看起來還有距離 、Ball未知、Ennis有疑慮、JC看起來沒大突破。上季有長老和老尖,DLO雖然不及前兩者 但在外圍還是有威脅性,不過他們都不在球隊裡了。 ------------------------------------------------- 爆發吧Randle,這季最期待的就是你啦~~~ 翻譯如果有錯誤,還請指正。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.232.150.107 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Lakers/M.1508168934.A.922.html

10/16 23:52, 6年前 , 1F
有Lopez真是太好了
10/16 23:52, 1F

10/16 23:53, 6年前 , 2F
辛苦了 雖然談到kcp跟紅茶部分並沒有很認同
10/16 23:53, 2F

10/17 00:00, 6年前 , 3F
撇除掉投籃,紅茶在個人球技上確實進步不多。他只是改變了
10/17 00:00, 3F

10/17 00:01, 6年前 , 4F
心態,然後打得更簡單些。我認為實際打第三年的他心態上有
10/17 00:01, 4F

10/17 00:01, 6年前 , 5F
進步就夠了,個人球技再慢慢磨沒關係。
10/17 00:01, 5F

10/17 00:04, 6年前 , 6F
Nance那段是說先發比較能發揮他的價值,但是對球隊來
10/17 00:04, 6F

10/17 00:05, 6年前 , 7F
說是不是最好的選擇則不一定
10/17 00:05, 7F

10/17 00:08, 6年前 , 8F
IG QQ
10/17 00:08, 8F

10/17 00:09, 6年前 , 9F
說真的KCP待個一季八成就要跑了,他成績只要能複製去
10/17 00:09, 9F

10/17 00:09, 6年前 , 10F
年我就謝天謝地
10/17 00:09, 10F

10/17 00:11, 6年前 , 11F
這篇說得滿好的
10/17 00:11, 11F

10/17 00:13, 6年前 , 12F
推翻譯
10/17 00:13, 12F

10/17 00:23, 6年前 , 13F
我比較想Randle先發
10/17 00:23, 13F

10/17 00:33, 6年前 , 14F
是不是還得裁一個人?
10/17 00:33, 14F

10/17 01:04, 6年前 , 15F
看到lakers nation的Rumor說紅茶跟湖人不會延長合約,
10/17 01:04, 15F

10/17 01:04, 6年前 , 16F
看來有機會走了
10/17 01:04, 16F

10/17 01:05, 6年前 , 17F
看來Randle跟KCP這季都是來過水跟展示身價的了
10/17 01:05, 17F

10/17 01:06, 6年前 , 18F
Randle起碼要兩千萬 然後湖人應該不會想給
10/17 01:06, 18F

10/17 01:09, 6年前 , 19F
不會談延長早就知道了阿,不可能現在就把空間花掉
10/17 01:09, 19F

10/17 01:10, 6年前 , 20F
反正Randle是RFA,你要留他跑不掉
10/17 01:10, 20F

10/17 01:41, 6年前 , 21F
紅茶要展現出足以讓湖人放棄全明星大咖的身手才有機會
10/17 01:41, 21F

10/17 01:41, 6年前 , 22F
提早續留。他目前是效率的提升,並非比賽內容足以改變
10/17 01:41, 22F

10/17 01:41, 6年前 , 23F
走勢的質的改變,沒談續約其實不意外。
10/17 01:41, 23F

10/17 01:45, 6年前 , 24F
話說Fultz的投籃是誰改的?怎麼向球哥看齊了....
10/17 01:45, 24F

10/17 02:06, 6年前 , 25F
要時候沒有大咖來 本來的球員又被簽走那就惨了
10/17 02:06, 25F

10/17 02:07, 6年前 , 26F
紅茶 rfa要留一定留的住 除非他鐵了心簽一年qo走人
10/17 02:07, 26F

10/17 02:24, 6年前 , 27F
推翻譯
10/17 02:24, 27F

10/17 02:26, 6年前 , 28F
如果有球員無法執行,就
10/17 02:26, 28F

10/17 02:26, 6年前 , 29F
砍了他的上場時間吧~ 會不會砍到最後湊不到五人上場
10/17 02:26, 29F

10/17 03:25, 6年前 , 30F
Fultz的投籃姿勢改變至少確定跟76球團沒關係 況且改了
10/17 03:25, 30F

10/17 03:25, 6年前 , 31F
也是選秀試訓就改了 影響他的主要還是肩膀傷勢
10/17 03:25, 31F

10/17 03:29, 6年前 , 32F
另外順便回應一下Okafor的問題吧,雖然這個在隊版講到
10/17 03:29, 32F

10/17 03:29, 6年前 , 33F
爛了,Monroe擁有高位策應能力跟低位得分能力 Kanter有
10/17 03:29, 33F

10/17 03:29, 6年前 , 34F
禁區得分能力跟籃板 而Okafor至少在他目前的前三季看下
10/17 03:29, 34F

10/17 03:29, 6年前 , 35F
來,就是低位單打的能力出色,你要說他有策應也沒有,
10/17 03:29, 35F

10/17 03:29, 6年前 , 36F
籃板能力跟卡位也不是很確實,更別提像被照射緩慢光線
10/17 03:29, 36F

10/17 03:29, 6年前 , 37F
的防守速度了。 球團跟Brown其實也給了不少機會了
10/17 03:29, 37F

10/17 03:30, 6年前 , 38F
不順應時代的這類型中鋒至少得具備兩項擅長的技能,而
10/17 03:30, 38F

10/17 03:30, 6年前 , 39F
在前三季的Okafor身上實在是找不到第二個特別優異的點
10/17 03:30, 39F
還有 20 則推文
還有 1 段內文
10/17 09:03, 6年前 , 60F
還是指 球隊能獲得最多 來自他首發時 除了作為一個球員
10/17 09:03, 60F

10/17 09:04, 6年前 , 61F
我支持後者,認為除了作為球員外的價值 可以讓球隊獲得最多
10/17 09:04, 61F

10/17 09:05, 6年前 , 62F
諸如刺激其他鋒線 也告訴所有人除了展現自己 還要變的更適
10/17 09:05, 62F

10/17 09:05, 6年前 , 63F
合球隊(教練)
10/17 09:05, 63F

10/17 09:06, 6年前 , 64F
但大部分out of him as a player 還是指他作為一個球員
10/17 09:06, 64F

10/17 09:08, 6年前 , 65F
總版的消息 紅茶好像確定開幕戰不能打了
10/17 09:08, 65F

10/17 09:09, 6年前 , 66F
紅茶傷哪裡?
10/17 09:09, 66F

10/17 09:10, 6年前 , 67F
等等,Bogut根本沒打欸...
10/17 09:10, 67F

10/17 09:11, 6年前 , 68F
推翻譯 player應該翻球員就可以了 作為一名球員最能
10/17 09:11, 68F

10/17 09:11, 6年前 , 69F
讓他充份發揮的位子
10/17 09:11, 69F

10/17 09:13, 6年前 , 70F
還沒確定,只是目前發出的消息是inactive
10/17 09:13, 70F

10/17 09:13, 6年前 , 71F
消息說如果這兩天有訓練,還是有可能放回active
10/17 09:13, 71F

10/17 09:18, 6年前 , 72F
這個莫名其妙的受傷潮是怎回事
10/17 09:18, 72F

10/17 12:11, 6年前 , 73F
Deron應該還是優於Ennis...
10/17 12:11, 73F

10/17 13:05, 6年前 , 74F
LFM提過一點很重要,Kuz已經能擔當強邊外線威脅,IG還不行
10/17 13:05, 74F

10/17 13:06, 6年前 , 75F
希望IG趕快把他空檔接球的腳步習慣建立起來
10/17 13:06, 75F

10/17 13:08, 6年前 , 76F
可惜我們名單好滿 不然被國王裁的david stockton可以用用
10/17 13:08, 76F

10/17 13:08, 6年前 , 77F
順便拐他老爸來調教一下球也是不錯的
10/17 13:08, 77F

10/17 13:31, 6年前 , 78F
他被裁了! 上一場打的蠻好的
10/17 13:31, 78F

10/17 13:38, 6年前 , 79F
身材真的太劣勢 5呎11吋太矮了
10/17 13:38, 79F

10/17 13:47, 6年前 , 80F
IG看練球影片還是1-2step接球居多,DX之前影片就提到
10/17 13:47, 80F

10/17 13:48, 6年前 , 81F
他hop step的準度還不行,希望這季能有改善
10/17 13:48, 81F

10/17 14:39, 6年前 , 82F
小老史身材真的不行....
10/17 14:39, 82F

10/17 14:56, 6年前 , 83F
這作者是當 Randle 後媽生的就是了,打最好的人沒有確切的
10/17 14:56, 83F

10/17 14:57, 6年前 , 84F
進步XDDDD
10/17 14:57, 84F

10/17 15:04, 6年前 , 85F
射程有了但自己知道優勢是輾的所以不常用先發群最穩的
10/17 15:04, 85F

10/17 15:05, 6年前 , 86F
被說沒進步,這位標準應該是老頭級的不能多怪~
10/17 15:05, 86F

10/17 15:56, 6年前 , 87F
怎麼對一個第七順位的這麼苛刻 跟兩個第二順位差好多
10/17 15:56, 87F

10/17 16:13, 6年前 , 88F
榜眼就是可以容忍 第七順位百般要求
10/17 16:13, 88F

10/17 16:17, 6年前 , 89F
因為要換約了
10/17 16:17, 89F

10/17 16:49, 6年前 , 90F
Randle才是目前全隊最威的吧 XD
10/17 16:49, 90F

10/17 17:26, 6年前 , 91F
聽起來有點令人難過@@
10/17 17:26, 91F

10/17 17:32, 6年前 , 92F
Lopez啦 Randle次之
10/17 17:32, 92F
※ 編輯: IngramBrando (36.232.154.58), 10/17/2017 17:38:31

10/17 18:47, 6年前 , 93F
每個評Randle都是阿嶽上身嗎?真的很嚴格XD
10/17 18:47, 93F

10/17 19:15, 6年前 , 94F
應該說他上季要是打簡單點就是會這麼威,跟嚴不嚴格無關
10/17 19:15, 94F

10/17 19:18, 6年前 , 95F
再多練出低位腳步跟穩定中距離就會變成得分機器,但防守部
10/17 19:18, 95F

10/17 19:18, 6年前 , 96F
分受限於身材劣勢可能進展會比較緩慢。
10/17 19:18, 96F

10/17 19:24, 6年前 , 97F
不過手短也不是世界末日,像是noah也是照拿DPOY,看能不能
10/17 19:24, 97F

10/17 19:24, 6年前 , 98F
多看noah影片學幾招。
10/17 19:24, 98F
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