[外電] 洛城點將錄 – 前場 【下】

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LG ROUND TABLE - THE FRONTCOURT PART 2 洛城點將錄 – 前場 【下】 原文網址: http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=120156 RON ARTEST 蓉蓉 A funny thing happened on the way to his first ring -- Ron Artest became a team player and model citizen. Maturity over the past few years has had a lot to do with it, but don't discount Ron's complete respect for Kobe. It played a huge part. He didn't want to let Kobe down. And in the final two games of the season, with their backs against the wall, he didn't let anyone down. It wasn't an easy process to get to that point. Ron tried to find his spots as a role player on this team, but struggled along the way. At the end of the season with the game on the line, Kobe trusted the role player Ron came through with a huge three in game 7 of the finals. He can put this critical moment/clutch play in his resume along with a buzzer beater against the Suns. You can't put a price on that kind of big-moment experience. 在他拿到第一枚冠軍戒的時候有趣的事情發生了, 蓉蓉變成了一個團隊至上的球員兼模範市民。 經歷了過去幾年他變得成熟許多,不過也可別忽視蓉蓉對科科的尊敬程度。 它發揮了巨大的作用。他可一點都不想讓科科感到失望。 並且看看這個球季最後兩場比賽他的表現吧,當湖人被逼到牆角無路可退之時, 蓉蓉可沒有讓任何湖人迷失望。這可不是一個簡單的過程, 蓉蓉一直想找到自己在湖人的定位,但是一路上他持續掙扎著, 在這個賽季末端的終點線前,科科相信身旁的角色球員蓉蓉而把球交到他手上, 後者則飆進了一個極為重要的三分球,在總冠軍戰第七戰。 把這球和他在太陽時的關鍵最後一擊放在一起來看, 你無法用有形的價值去量化這種關鍵大賽時的精彩演出。 Ron wasn't in a comfort zone with the team all season -- both on court and off court. Now that he's made a home here, won a ring and all the things that go along with being a champion and a Laker, he'll definitely be more comfortable this next season. Of course, this can be a good thing and a bad thing. Maybe you don't want Ron to get too comfortable. What if he slips up with some off-court circus or on-court antics? If he slips, believe that Kobe will be in his ear. Ron knows that and Laker fans should have some confidence that he can string together another year of maturity off the court. Ron has finally found his formula for success. 蓉蓉在整個球季都在球隊裡的定位相當不自在 – 在場上或場外都是。 現在,這裡是他的家,他作為一個湖人贏得了一個戒指和一個冠軍, 他的下個球季肯定會覺得舒適許多。 當然,這件事情可能是好消息,也可能是壞消息。 也許有人不希望蓉蓉沒有壓力過的太爽, 如果他在場外上演一些馬戲團花絮的或是在場上有一些小丑般的舉動怎麼辦? 如果他胡搞瞎搞,相信科科會把他搞定的。 蓉蓉知道,湖人迷對他應該有一些信心,融入球隊,把場外的事情拋諸腦後, 他終於找到了自己的勝利方程式。 On the court, however, that comfort zone is what can help him improve. He was constantly second-guessing himself all season long last year. He wasn't reading the offense very well, often hesitating. And at other times, he too often tried to bully his way into a crowd when the spacing wasn't there. The offense would get very stagnant as he parked beyond the three line. In some of those final games, however, you saw things start to click. Plays like Pierce leaving him to double Pau as Ron cut to the weakside. He read the play, reacted with a cut back into the lane and Pau fed him for a key And-1 in the fourth. He struggled with those kinds of reads all season. Another year under his belt in this offense will do him much good. Make no mistake, the light didn't just suddenly go on. He's slowly learning from trial and error and Phil barking at him. He should improve his execution this season. When he stays with a team, history has shown that his shooting percentages start low, but trend upward with each new team he's on. Hopefully, that will be the case next season. 然而在場上,找到舒適的定位將會使他更加長進, 去年他整個賽季都在批評自己沒有做好這一點。 他並沒有把進攻戰術解讀得很好,常常有所遲疑。 在其他的時間裡他常常在沒有足夠空間時撞進人群中去攻擊籃框, 而且當他停在三分線外整個進攻流動會無法運作,有所停滯。 然而面對總冠軍戰,你可以看到事情有所改變, 當皮爾斯去對砲姐進行包夾的時候,蓉蓉把握機會從弱邊切入, 他解讀了戰術,並以果決的切入禁區作為行動,接獲砲姐的傳球, 在至關重要的第四節把這球投進並得到一個三分打的機會。 他整個賽季都在和解讀這樣的比賽內容上掙扎, 再給他一年想必他能在進攻這方面發揮得更好,可以做到毫無錯誤, 畢竟這是需要時間去磨合的。 在肥爾常常對著他咆嘯的情況下,他慢慢的學習和嘗試錯誤, 在這一季他應該在更加精進自己對戰術的執行能力, 數據顯示每當他到了一個新隊伍時,他的投籃命中率在一開始都偏低, 不過將會隨著時間流逝慢慢好轉起來,希望這是下個賽季所能看到的情況。 Defensively, Ron is committed to losing weight and keeping his footspeed and strength. He'll be starting the season at a much lower weight this year. This may help prevent the brief battle with plantar fasciitis he had last season. If he loses more weight as the season goes, perhaps, you may even see him improve his lateral speed a little more. It's not crazy to believe he could be better defensively this upcoming year. 在防守方面,蓉蓉需要減重一點,而且要維持他腳部的速度和身體的力量, 他今年球季應該會以減重不少的體態出發, 這或許可以預防他上季那種足底筋膜炎的狀況再度發生, 如果他隨著賽季的進行瘦了更多的話,可能還能看到他橫移的速度上升一些, 他在新的球季防守等級還能往上提升的想法並不瘋狂。 LUKE WALTON 我疼 There has been a lot of talk of 30-year-old Luke Walton retiring or sitting out the season because of the bad back. Luke's dad had a host of debilitating injuries over the course of his career (and even recently contemplated suicide because of the extreme pain due to nerve issues), so the younger Walton certainly has more reason to be careful with his own health. Health aside, what kind of impact can Luke make next season? 對於三十歲的我疼有很多退不退休的討論,這全是那該死的背傷所致。 我疼的老爸在他的整個職業生涯也不斷在和令人衰弱的傷勢戰鬥, (似乎未曾提及,他甚至在那種極限的疼痛下還考慮過自殺這個選項。) 有此前車之鑑,還如此年輕的我疼當然有更多的理由要小心他自己的健康狀況。 先不提健康狀況,下個球季我疼能對湖人帶來什麼貢獻呢? Luke shot reasonably well (a very respectable .412 from three, but a poor .357 overall). He moved the ball. Did all the things you've seen over the years. He wasn't exactly a two-way impact player, however. A sometimes steadying force off the bench, but hardly someone who gave opponents much concern. In the playoffs, he averaged just 6 minutes in 16 games. During the regular season, he played just 29 games and 9.4 minutes. 我疼的投籃非常良好, (數字很好看,三分球有4成12,但是整體只有可憐的3成57。) 他能傳導球,做好這些年你看他能做到的所有事情, 然而他的球路並不全像是一個典型的搖擺人球員。 我疼是湖人在板凳上一股很穩定的力量,但對手卻很難對他產生過多的關注。 在季後賽,他在16場比賽裡平均上場6分鐘, 在季賽裡,也只打了29場比賽,平均上場時間9.4分鐘。 Matt Barnes is going to eat up all that playing time. Even if his health is there, the playing time simply is not. Even if one of Barnes/Artest is sidelined for a stretch of games at some point, the Lakers will likely slide Kobe over to back up SF as they did most of last season. When garbage time comes, that's the perfect time for a young Ebanks to get some run, if he makes the team. Walton is very much looking like the odd man out of the front court rotation this season. 咩棒將會吃掉他大部分的上場時間。 就算他恢復了健康,這個狀況應該也不會改變。 就算咩棒或蓉蓉出了什麼狀況而不適合上場, 我疼的上場順序大概還排在偶爾代打SF的科科後面, 就如同湖人隊去年常做的那樣。 當垃圾時間到來,如果小班有進入輪替陣容, 這是絕佳的機會讓他上場跑動跑動,磨練一下, 我疼在新賽季看來非常有機會變成因為太老而跌出球隊輪替的那種邊緣狀態。 LAMAR ODOM 老二 As inconsistent and Lamar can be, he was the steady force off the bench for the Lakers. He'd provide rebounding and excellent defensive mobility that could be counted on most nights. And while you think of Lamar as a bench player, he started 38 games for the team last year, sliding into the PF spot whenever Pau or Bynum went down. The Lakers typically didn't miss a beat, with a winning percentage of .632 despite missing one of their starting bigmen. With LO playing all 82 games and providing that steadying impact, this was one of the big advantages this team has had over opponents. He struggled at times in the playoffs with guys like Serge Ibaka and Big Baby, but a healthy Pau/Lamar and enough of Bynum have proven to be a formidable trio while taking back-to-back rings. 就像往年有點載浮載沉的老二,是湖人板凳上最穩定的力量。 他幾乎在每天晚上都能提供一堆籃板和優秀的防守活動性。 當你覺得他當板凳球員幹得不差的時候,他其實去年先發了38場比賽, 每當砲姐和小拜下去休息的時候,他就會在PF的位置上鞏固湖人禁區。 雖然湖人失去了一位先發的大個子,但是6成32的勝率說明他們並未失去節奏。 老二季賽82場全勤,從板凳上提供我們穩定的火力, 這是湖人這支球隊當他們面對挑戰的時候一個最大的優勢之一。 他在季後賽碰到Serge Ibaka和Big Baby這類對手時打的綁手綁腳, 但是健康的砲姐和老二,以及足夠健康的小拜, 已經用連續兩枚冠軍戒指證明了 – 他們是難以阻擋的紫金三塔。 The lasting impression of Lamar's game was a lackluster playoff performance. Lamar struggled in the first and last rounds of the playoffs but put up double-double averages against the Jazz and Suns. Overall, his numbers were slightly less than his regular season impact. He averaged 9.7 points and 8.6 rebounds in the post season (compared to 10.8 points and 9.8 boards in the regular season). He also averaged 1 more foul per game in the post season, coming up with quick fouls in a number of games. Although his scoring has steadily decreased the last four years, so has the Lakers dependence on him for that. However, at 30 years old, Lamar's game isn't declining yet. Last season, he had his third best rebounding production of his career with 9.8 per game...and his second best total rebounds for a season. In fact, when you adjust it for minutes, it was his best season of rebounding per minute that he's had in his 11 years. Anytime we had to go to Powell, you could see how badly the Lakers missed LO doing his thing on the glass. 對於老二今年整個季後賽表現球迷感想一般來說都是不太優的, 老二在第一輪和總冠軍賽裡打得很掙扎,但他對爵士和太陽平均卻有雙十。 整體來說,他的季後賽數據比起季賽略有下滑, 平均9.7分和8.6籃板。(季賽是10.8分和9.8籃板的成績。) 他還在季後賽每場比賽平均多了一次犯規,很多比賽一上場就快速領到犯規了。 雖然他的平均得分在過去四年內不斷的下降,但這是為了配合湖人所做的調整。 然而,在三十歲的年頭,老二的比賽內容仍然沒有衰退的跡象, 上個球季,他的9.8籃板是生涯第三高的成績…… 而整季抓到到籃板總數則是生涯次佳的。 事實上,如果你考慮到他的上場時間的話, 這可是他11年來平均每分鐘抓最多籃板的一年。 每一次我們必須將賈許派上場之時, 你可以觀察到湖人沒有老二待在場上做他該做的事之後,水準差了多少。 Phil had Lamar often play as part of the two-guard front last year, bringing up the ball and initiating the offense. This lessens the load on both Fish and Kobe and helps to keep his man a little more perimeter occupied in order to open up the paint. You may see less reliance on this with the addition of Blake. But Lamar will certainly continue to float around the perimeter in the half court to open up the floor. 肥爾從去年開始就常讓老二做兩個後衛分內的事,負責帶球和發動進攻。 這個調整減輕了科科和老漁的負擔, 並且讓老二運球使隊友容易把空間拉開,對打開禁區大門有很大幫助。 在小黑入陣之後,對於老二的運球依賴性應該就會減少了, 但是老二想必還是會潛伏在半場外圍試著去保持威脅,藉此拉開對方的防守。 One area where you may see some slight difference from last season is the ability of the Lakers to push tempo. Ron Artest can do a lot of things, but fastbreak basketball is not one of them. Adding Barnes into the mix filling lanes and Blake pulling up on the outside, could allow LO more opportunities to grab boards and push them up court. His ability to turn defense into offense may give L.A. a more effective counterstrike with that second unit, despite losing the speedy Farmar. Getting easy baskets was not their strength last year. 你可能會察覺到一些微妙的差異,上個賽季球推進的速度明明是湖人的優勢。 蓉蓉可以搞定一大堆事情,可惜快攻籃球不是其中之一, 咩棒的加入應該可以補上空缺,在加上外圍又有小黑的火力應援, 這允許老二抓下籃板後可以製造更多的機會,不管是自己帶球還是傳球選擇。 雖然速度也很快的小法今年離隊, 老二轉守為攻的能力在二人快速反擊時仍舊給予湖人隊非常高的效率。 這種簡單的得分說實在去年他們做得並不好。 Lamar played the entire season last year and with his third long post season and now playing for Team USA this summer, Phil may want to find him a little bit of rest to start the season. Lamar has often been a slow starter, taking a while to get engaged with the game each season. One wonders, however, if his staying busy this summer will help him start off with better focus this season. 老二打了一整個賽季,一個他生涯場數第三多的球季之後, 夏天加入了美國國家隊。 肥爾可能會希望在開季前多休息一點, 不過老二的比賽總是比較慢熱的,每一季都需要花上一些時間去融入比賽。 然而,有人期待一個忙碌的籃球夏天, 可以讓他這一季在一開季的時候就全神貫注在球場上。 PAU GASOL 砲姐 The Spaniard has grown quite a bit in the past three years. He went to the finals in his first season here and battled Kobe in the Olympics that summer; came back to win a championship; returned home to lead his Spanish team to another championship; after some wear and tear on the fingers and hammys, he helped lead L.A. to another championship. The guy has played a lot of ball at the highest levels the past three years. This summer, he's getting just what he needs -- rest. Hopefully, that will lead to fresher legs and the ability to go the distance once again. 西班牙大姐姐在過去三年進步不少, 他來湖人的第一季我們就打進總決賽, 並且他還在那個夏天和科科在奧運會上大戰了一番, 在接下來的球季贏了冠軍,回西班牙帶領國家隊拿了另一個冠軍, 在經歷了痛和淚,克服了手指和大腿的傷勢之後, 又幫助洛杉磯湖人拿下另一個冠軍。 這傢伙在過去這三年來打了很多場最高等級的籃球比賽, 這個夏天他也得到了他最需要的 – 休息。 希望這將帶來砲姐更強健的大腿,讓他有再一次邁向新一年征途的能力。 Pau averaged a career high 11.3 rebounds last season (his previous high was 9.8). Encouraged by Kobe, challenged by Phil, he has stood tall in stature and grown big in heart. He dropped 19 points, 18 boards in game 7 of the finals. Pau is going to continue to bring it. Sometimes he won't be as aggressive or selfish as he needs to be, but Pau will be good for his usual 18 points and double digit rebounds next season. What the Lakers hope to see more of next season is a healthy Pau playing across a healthy Bynum. The two have struggled to consistently find time on the court together and integrate their games. In March this past year, they were putting together some 20+ point, 10+ rebound outings in the same games. That's what the team needs to see more of next season -- getting inside-out ball and thoroughly dominating the opponent's bigmen with both Drew and Pau at the same time. 砲姐去年平均每場有11.3個籃板,(他先前最高籃板為9.8個。) 受到科科鼓舞,肥耳鞭策的砲姐,依舊是湖人禁區的擎天柱, 並且在心志上成長的更加無懼雄壯。 他在總冠軍戰第七戰拿下了19分18籃板,而砲姐將會持續這種水準。 有時候他會顯得不夠有攻擊性,或是對球的處理顯得不夠自私, 但是下一季砲姐應該還是能夠維持場均18分以上,並且平均達到雙十。 湖人下季最希望看到的大概就是一個健康的砲姐再加上一個健康的小拜了。 這兩人似乎很難找到時間一起健康的待在場上,將他們的比賽內容整合在一起。 在去年三月,他們在同一場比賽中一起拿下20+分和10+籃板, 這就是下一季我們希望在湖人比賽裡多看到的情況 – 把球交給內線。 當小拜和砲姐同時在場上的時候把球權交給他們,徹底的主宰對手。 It's not just integrating their games together, it's also how the team understands what can be done and not done as a unit. The lane is a little more clogged with the two of them (guys like Artest have to be careful of their spacing). The second unit has to take advantage of their bigs. Too often the ball wasn't run through them. The addition of Blake and his willingness to run the offense to its strengths and space the floor as a shooter should allow the bigs to be more effective than the Farmar/Brown combo. Matt Barnes is also a solid post feeder and should work great cutting off that low post. Pau's superb passing skills from the post should blend in well with both of them and give the team more impact. One of the keys to getting both Pau and Bynum to put up big numbers is having them tag team. Often Bynum will get the ball early, then Pau, then we go back to Bynum with the second unit. If the new pieces learn the offense and fit as they should...and the team starts playing to their strengths more...it will be a tough haul for their opposition every night. 這不只是將每個人的比賽整合在一起這麼簡單, 而是讓整個團隊知道什麼事情他們單打獨鬥做不到,而團結就能辦到。 球的行徑路徑上若是有兩個隊友就顯得太擁擠, (像蓉蓉這樣球員要更注意空間的分布。) 另一個重點就是要多加利用他們的大個子,有太多球沒有經過他們就採取攻擊。 小黑的入隊後應當比雙衛都來的更有效率,即使做為一個射手, 他在有空檔和能力出手之時仍會傾向把球交給雙塔們來發動更高效的進攻。 咩棒給球到低位的能力也不錯,順帶一提他從低位的邊線切入也有一手, 砲姐在低位精湛的傳球能力想必能夠給他們兩位帶來大加分, 並產生更良好的化學反應。 其中一個砲姐和小拜想要更加進步都要留意的關鍵是他們兩人的搭配的模式, 常常小拜都會很早拿到球,然後才是砲姐,然後接下來再換小拜, 當有新成員加入了這個體系,他們必須找到最適合的定位… 如果每個成員都開始學會強調這支隊伍的優勢… 這對他們每天晚上的對手來說都將是場夢魘。 ANDREW BYNUM 小拜 There are a lot of positive vibes floating around L.A. about Bynum's upcoming season. Could this be the one he finally plays without injury? With giants coming together in the East, the Lakers will need their own giant to play to his potential. When he was healthy, Drew was an imposing figure in the post. We saw him gut out the playoffs on a bad knee. In game 7 of the finals, he gave the Lakers 18 minutes, but just 2 points and a team-low -12. Just having him take some of the workload off Pau helps, but that may not be enough to take this upcoming season. 對洛杉磯湖人隊的小拜下個球季的表現,江湖上有很多正面的共鳴。 他可以健健康康的打完這一整季嗎? 當那些高手在東區六神合體之時,湖人需要他們自己的高手打出潛力。 當小拜保持健康之時,他在禁區是一員令人印象深刻的猛將, 我們已經見識過他帶著一隻半殘的膝蓋在季後賽拼戰了。 在總冠軍賽第七戰,他上場18分鐘卻只拿到兩分, 而團隊效率更是有點難堪的-12,這個狀況還是在有Pau的掩護之下發生的, 不過這個數據對接下來的這個賽季,很有可能是不足以採信的。 Knee surgery this offseason will have Bynum off to a slow start as he continues his rehab for the first month. Besides his health, can Bynum continue to build upon his game to make the Lakers better? Drew averaged just 8.6 points in the playoffs. In the regular season, however, he averaged 15 per game. His post moves have looked much more consistent and effective by the year, and Bynum has said that he wants to develop an off hand as effective as Pau's (which is money on that left block). His career stats show continued growth, as well. Points by the season from his rookie year to last season: 1.6, 7.8, 13.1, 14.3 and 15.0 per game. Every year, he has increased his scoring output. Indeed, it is possible we see continued improvement from the 22-year-old. 在他膝蓋痊癒的頭一個月, 休賽季的膝蓋恢復手術會讓小拜迎接一個較為緩慢的開季。 而除了他的健康狀況之外,小拜可以打出他高檔的內容,讓湖人變得更好嗎? 他在季後賽的平均得分只有8.6分,然而在季賽時期他有平均15分左右的成績。 這季他的跑位看起來變得更厚實有效, 而且小拜表示他想和砲姐一樣變得即使未持球也能做出貢獻。 (最大的加分就是火鍋了。) 他的生涯數據也還在持續成長。 平均每場得分從新人年列出來分別是:1.6、7.8、13.1、14.3、15。 每一年他的得分能力都在往上攀升, 而且事實上在22歲之後繼續往上成長是非常有可能的。 Defensively, having a vet shotblocker like Ratliff who can mentor him all season has potential to help Bynum's weakside defensive rotations. Another year of experience helps, too. What often puts Bynum on the sideline is Phil's trust in the mobility of the Pau/Lamar unit defensively when teams try to execute the two-man game in crunch time. If Drew can continue to improve his effectiveness here, this team will continue to cause problems for opponents throughout the season. But it's not the start the Lakers are concerned about, it's the finish. Hopefully, Bynum can hold up the whole way. 在防守方面,有鍋神這樣的火鍋老鳥在陣中,可以指導小拜整整一季, 讓小拜學著改善弱邊的防守轉換。另外他累積起來的經驗也可能會有所幫助。 成熟的關鍵就是當面對到比賽的關鍵時刻之時, 肥爾會把他放在場上,而非讓砲姐和老二上場,留小拜在邊線旁坐板凳。 如果小拜能夠持續提高他待在場上的效率, 這隻湖人隊將繼續給予整個賽季碰到的所有對手一個難以化解的難題, 不過這並不是開季就需要達到的程度,而是最後希望達到的高度。 誠摯希望,小拜能夠體會箇中的關鍵。 Questions for discussion: 問題與討論 What difference will Matt Barnes make? 咩棒能帶來什麼影響? Will Phil get more use of Ratliff than he did of Mbenga? 肥爾比起剛果人會更常使用鍋神嗎? Can Caracter replace Powell's game? 卡拉是否完全補上賈許的缺? Can Pau and Bynum improve their chemistry and collective impact? 砲姐和小拜的化學效應和搭配能夠更上一層樓嗎? Has anyone closed the gap in the Laker front court advantage? 有沒有人能阻擋湖人隊在前場的龐大優勢? -- Done. :) -- 洛城 ███◣ 浪子 Los Angeles Boys ◢██◣ █ █ ◥█ φlin798183 ██ ██◤ █ ██◤ █◤◢█ █◣ ◢ ██◤ ◥ ◤ █ █ ◤ ◥█ ███◣ ███◤ ◢██ ◥██ ◢█◤ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.113.139.225

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沒有人
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頭推耶爽XDD
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09/03 14:42, , 3F
出門前推個好文!!!!!!!!
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可惜不是所有人都有點到^^
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還有後場的阿...
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眼殘沒看到「前場」兩字@@ 另外剛剛才確認DJ沒簽
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先推再看
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我已經沒力看了@@
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推! 洛城點將錄-後衛 kobe 內容:暑假好好休息 over XD
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優文~
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好~ 想知道大大翻要多久阿 QQ外電我都要翻好久阿...
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推好文推翻譯
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「問題與討論」咧...這是以前寫報告才有吧...XDDDDDD
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好文推
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push
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卡拉有上場時間的話,超越賈許不難吧
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後場勒 (敲碗
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※ 編輯: LABOYS 來自: 140.113.139.225 (09/03 16:42)

09/03 16:59, , 19F
對這季的湖人很有信心 ^^
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好文推推推
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推~
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賈許的缺很難補嗎? 不就看好開特力嗎? XD
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三塔!!!霸男要猛起來啊~~~~
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賈許的缺我也覺得不難補阿...@@...高度沒差!厚度更甚~
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頂多經驗吧....不過我倒是相當看好!!感謝大大的好文~~
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我疼 真的是令我越看越疼
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Push!
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THX
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push
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推!!
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推!
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