[外電] 六個瓜罵可以成功的原因

看板Knicks作者 (隨遇而安)時間13年前 (2012/12/04 14:40), 編輯推噓13(13024)
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我想在看過武僧把拔的那三篇專訪後,再看這篇應該會更有感觸 XD 因為武僧和現在尼克隊全員的目標只有一個,所以一切都變的更簡單了 XD 6 Reasons to Believe Carmelo-Amar'e Pairing Will Work in 2012-13 BY VIN GETZ (FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON DECEMBER 3, 2012 Carmelo Anthony and his New York Knicks will be reunited with Amar’e Stoudemire before the end of the year. The New York Post reported that Stoudemire’s “goal is to return around Christmas.” 在今年年底,甜瓜和紐約尼克將迎來阿罵的回歸。紐約郵報報導稱阿罵的“目標將是在 聖誕前後復出。” By that time, the Knicks could very well be 20-7, anchored to the Atlantic Division lead and the second seed. 那個時候,尼克的戰績最好可能是20-7,鎖定大西洋分區頭名和東部二號種子的位置在 NBA裡有個公認的事實。 There’s an accepted fact around the NBA, a grand myth almost, that the Carmelo-Amar’e pairing never worked and never will. Under this cloud, many Knicks fans are looking forward to Stoudemire’s return with some understandable trepidation. 好吧,有個人盡皆知的秘密和問題,那就是,瓜罵永遠不能連線成功。因此在這朵烏雲 下,尼克的球迷們對於阿罵的回歸又盼望又擔心。 Who wants to mess with what the Knicks have going? They are a top five team right now, having earned a spot alongside the Miami Heat, Memphis Grizzlies, San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder as one of the current Finals contenders. 誰想看到尼克現在的樣子消失?現在尼克是聯盟前五的球隊,和熱火,灰熊,馬刺,雷 霆這四個強隊站在一起呢。 But there is evidence that Stoudemire can make the Knicks even better, and that he and Anthony can work together quite well, especially under Mike Woodson. Not only that—there were already a few times this season the Knicks could have used Stoudemire, and they will surely need him over the course of this long season. 但是,別擔心,有足夠的證據表明阿罵能使尼克變得比現在更好,特別是在武僧教練手 下,瓜罵連線會很通暢。不止這樣——其實在上季中已經有幾次,尼克能夠很好的使用 瓜罵,而且,毫無疑問,在這個漫長的賽季中,阿罵是尼克不可缺少的一員。 The Carmelo-Amar’e pairing, in fact, could take the Knicks to a whole new level. 事實上,瓜罵連線能使尼克上一個全新的台階。 Stats as of the end of Dec. 2 play. (以下所有統計數據截至12月2號。) 1. Carmelo-Amar'e Are 8-2 Under Mike Woodson 1. 在武僧把拔手下,瓜罵連線8勝2負 When Carmelo Anthony joined the team after the 2011 All-Star Weekend, anticipation was thick in the air of New York City. The Knicks now had two superstars, 60 wins here we come! 2011年全明星周末之後,在甜瓜加盟尼克時,整個紐約城隊尼克的期待空前絕後 。尼克擁有了兩名巨星,60勝我們來啦! But the Knicks continued on in their average ways, and worse. They went 6-3— not bad—in the first nine games after the trade. Then, they lost nine out of 10. 但是,尼克在此之後依然在中流徘徊,甚至更差。他們有了一個6勝3負勉強還行的 開端,然後,就沒有然後了...(在之後的10場裡面輸了9場)。 By the end of the 2010-11 season, the Knicks’ would be 12-12 when Anthony and Stoudemire paired up. 在那個賽季結束的時候,尼克在瓜罵連線的情況下的戰績是12-12。 Things didn’t go too well for the twosome through 2011-12, either. Even with the Jeremy Lin streak, the Knicks as a whole went 18-24—until Mike Woodson took over. 接下來的2011-12賽季,這兩人的情況並沒有好轉多少。即便有了Jeremy Lin 帶來的 一波流,尼克在武僧接手之前的戰績是18-24. Under Woodson, the Knicks finished off the season 18-6 and 8-2 with Anthony and Stoudemire suited up. 在武僧把拔接手後,尼克以一波18-6的成績結束了賽季,其中瓜罵連線成績為8-2。 Sounds like a clean slate. Under Woodson, there have been no Carmelo-Amar’e compatibility issues. 武僧聽起來歷史很清白,瓜罵連線在他手下沒問題。 2. Carmelo-Amar'e Will Benefit from Pass-First Point Guards Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire have played with the following starting point guards: Chauncey Billups, Jeremy Lin, Toney Douglas and Baron Davis. 甜瓜和阿罵曾經和以下的控衛合作過:槍西,林書豪,TD和BD。 Jeremy Lin and Toney Douglas were erratic in their handling of the two forwards. Baron Davis was finished. And Chauncey Billups never really connected with Stoudemire. 林書豪和TD以及瓜罵合作的結果戰績不太穩定。BD則是傷停了。而槍西從來都沒有真正 和阿罵有過啥反應。 None of these four, including “Mr. Big Shot” Billups, were primary passers. 這四個控衛中,包括“關鍵先生”槍西,都不是傳球型控衛。 Anthony and Stoudemire have yet to play together with pass-first point guards that are more adept at an assisting role. 瓜罵已經分別和一些傳球優先,以組織為主要特色的控衛合作過。 Raymond Felton has a known rapport with Stoudemire that should pick up where it left off. They will still run the pick-and-roll, and Felton is ready for STAT’s redeveloped post-up game. 眾所周知,肥頓和阿罵合作無間,這一點需要堅持。他們將會繼續打擋拆,肥頓已經準 備好迎接阿罵的回歸了。 It’s a proven fact now that Felton fits with Anthony too. 目前的事實也證明,肥頓也可以跟甜瓜合作得不錯。 When Felton’s not on the court, the Knicks have two other pass-first point guards at the ready: Jason Kidd and Pablo Prigioni. 當肥頓不在場上的時候,尼克還有另外兩個傳球優先的組織性控衛:老基和老普。 All three point guards have the experience and maturity to handle and satisfy both Anthony and Stoudemire. 這三個控衛都有足夠的經驗和成熟度調度和滿足瓜罵連線的要求。 ESPN agrees: Carmelo-Amar’e “never played with three seasoned point guards. Raymond Felton, Jason Kidd and Pablo Prigioni will help Anthony and Stoudemire get in the right spots to score.” ESPN 也同意這個觀點:瓜罵“從來沒有和三個老牌控衛一起打過球。肥頓,老基和老 普將幫助瓜罵站在正確的位置上得分。” 3. Carmelo-Amar'e Can Beat Big Teams Like the Memphis Grizzlies 3. 瓜罵連線能讓尼克擊敗大個子球隊,比如灰熊。 The Memphis Grizzlies had their way with the Knicks, handing New York its first loss of the season: a bruising 105-95 defeat. 灰熊找到了對付尼克的辦法,讓尼克遭遇到賽季首敗——令人挫敗的105-95。 The Carmelo-at-the-number-four mismatch that creates problems for so many teams lost its magic in Memphis. Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol (260 pounds apiece) knocked the Knicks’ small-lineup around. 胖瓜——四號位很厲害—— 安東尼的魔力在灰熊面前失效了。軟豆腐和小嘎獸(260 磅的壯漢)把小個尼克的頭爆了個遍。 Against physical teams like the Grizzlies, or say, the L.A. Lakers, the Knicks will need to field a bigger team, with Anthony slipping back into his small forward role and Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler throwing their size around on the front line. 面對大打肉搏戰的球隊,比如灰熊,或者湖人,尼克將需要一個更大的陣容,讓甜瓜 回到小前位置,阿罵和拳王則用身體優勢鎖定內線。 4. Carmelo-Amar’e Can Find the Proper Spacing with Tyson Chandler 4. 瓜罵連線能在有拳王的情況下找到合適空間 “It's about player location.” says ESPN. ESPN 說“這一切都是關於球員的站位問題。” The Knicks will benefit if Stoudemire stays away from the basket, roaming the inside mid- and high-posts. Carmelo Anthony can occupy the low post and share some mid-post with Stoudemire, with Anthony owning the point and the outside. Tyson Chandler sets up near the rim. 如果阿罵的站位離籃筐稍遠些,在中位和高位發威,尼克將從中受益。甜瓜主要站在低 位,並和阿罵分享一些中位的空間,這兩個點都是甜瓜的主要得分區域,當然還有外線 的得分機會。而拳王負責籃筐附近的攻擊火力。 This spacing will work for all three players. 這樣的空間分配對三個人都是可行的。 Stoudemire’s enhanced post-up game lends itself nicely to this setup, so long as Chandler is on the other side of the baseline when Amar’e moves in. 阿罵日漸成熟的背筐讓他能夠和這個站位完美融合,只要阿罵進入的時候拳王站在底線 另一邊就可以了。 Stoudemire’s pick-and-roll and mid-range jumpers (if he can find his again) also are effective from this location. 另一方面,阿罵的跑轟和中投(如果阿罵能再次找到感覺的話)也將在這個體系裡有效率 。 And, for the most part, Carmelo’s game would be unaffected by Amar’e's positioning. 與此同時,甜瓜不會受到任何影響。 5. Carmelo-Amar’e Will Work When Tyson Chandler Sits 5. 當拳王休息時,瓜罵連線還能發揮作用 Defense will suffer, but this might give the offense a little jolt: Play Amar ’e Stoudemire at center when Tyson Chandler hits the bench. 拳王休息,防守肯定受影響,但是這可能對於進攻段沒什麼影響:當拳王休息時,讓阿 罵打中鋒。 This is just another variation of the successful small ball the Knicks have been playing all season, just swapping the two biggest men on the roster. 這只是尼克這個賽季一直在玩的小球戰術的一個變種,把兩個大個子交替使用。 Carmelo Anthony gets to move up to the number 4, where he has been supremely effective, and Stoudemire gets to play down low, where he is more of an versatile offensive threat than Chandler. 甜瓜將被推上4號位,這個位置上他的效率不錯,阿罵則打低位,在這個位置他的全能 攻擊性比拳王更勝一籌。 This makes additional sense when you take into account Marcus Camby’s injury-plagued season so far, and Kurt Thomas’ inability to clock the minutes. 這個提議在老坎比因傷表現不佳,老湯上場時間有限的時候更加有意義。 By the way, isn’t this what the Knicks pretty much had going before Anthony came to town, unless you count Timofey Mozgov and Ronny Turiaf as legitimate centers? 順便說一句,這不就是甜瓜來尼克之前的時候尼克的樣子嗎?除非你認為Timofey Mozgov 和Ronny Turiaf理所應當是中鋒。 6. Carmelo-Amar’e Will Work If Stoudemire Is Just an Option The takeover is complete. Carmelo Anthony is the primary option of the offense and everybody else is the second option. 球隊的接管工作已經結束了。甜瓜將是進攻段的主要火力。 Really, the matter had been unsettled until now. Through the end of last season, the Knicks continued to struggle with feeding both superstars, deeming it a failure if both didn’t walk away with 20 PPG. 真的,這事兒到現在還沒理清。上賽季末,尼克一直在為怎麼同時給兩位球星餵球困擾 ,事實證明,如果兩個人都要場均20分,球隊將會以失敗告終。 But who cares if Stoudemire only scores 15 points a game if Anthony is scoring 25-30 and the Chandler-led defense is holding opponents to under 90? 可是如果甜瓜能得到25-30分,拳王能在防守端把對手得分控制在90以下,誰會介意阿 罵每場只拿15分? So what if J.R. Smith, Raymond Felton or even Steve Novak outscore Stoudemire regularly? 而且還有JR, 肥頓甚至NOVAK突然爆走的可能性存在呢。 Assuming the Knicks’ Big Three each find enough room to operate, Stoudemire becomes as equal an option for Felton or Anthony to dish to as anybody else on the court. 假設尼克的三巨頭有足夠的空間配合,阿罵將是和肥頓,甜瓜或球隊任何人一樣的進 攻得分點。 Conclusion 結論: It's time to put the Carmelo-Amar'e concerns to rest. 是時候放下瓜罵不能連線的擔憂了 The two have proven already they can share the court under Mike Woodson to the team's benefit. It just so happens that the Knicks' winning percentage is better when both players start under Woody. 在武僧手下,這兩個傢伙已經證明了他們能夠分享球場,讓球隊受益。事實是,在武 僧手下,有瓜罵連線的時候球隊的勝率比沒有的時候要高。 上季季後賽,阿罵打了滅火器之後,經過了武僧的開導,外加武僧對紐約客喊話說 不要噓阿罵之後,瓜罵連手在花園打敗了熱火,雖然僅有一場,但別忘了那是在尼 克傷兵累累的情況下,而且阿罵的手還帶著傷的情形,而他們面對的可是完好的熱 火三巨頭,但就如武僧所言,瓜罵都很想贏,所以他一直相信而且認為他們沒問題 而在他手下就算季後PG只有BB,他們還是贏了熱火一場。 Not only is it unnecessary for Stoudemire to come off the bench—though that would work too—but the 2012-13 version of the Knicks might improve if he starts. 阿罵變成第六人完全沒必要——雖然這樣也是可以——但是在這個賽季,尼克需要阿 罵先發。 Instead of fearing Stoudemire's return, and his affect on a hot team, maybe it's important to recognize that the Knicks still need something more to get to the next level, to beat the Miami Heat and take the East. 與其擔心阿罵的回歸對這只目前情況良好的隊伍的影響,倒不如清醒的認識到尼克想 更進一步,還需要有些加成把隊伍推向另一個層次。 Maybe that something more is Amar'e Stoudemire. 也許這個加成就是阿罵。 原文:http://tinyurl.com/d3zahu2 翻譯:http://bbs.hupu.com/4712556.html -- ─── [[ =" ∵ ◆]] ────────── ▊◢◤ \ Once a Knicks, ▊◤ ▊ ◥◣▊ ◢◤◥ ▊◢◤‵、 ◤◢ always a Knicks. ▊◥◣ ▊ ▊ ▊ ◥◣ ─-.╳ ▊ ◥▎▊ ◤▊ ◥◣ ▊◥◣ ◣◥◣ ρ\ `, ψsherry821224 ─── ◥ ◥ | ────────── -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.242.18.219

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12/04 14:55, , 2F
謝謝轉貼~
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12/04 14:58, , 3F
想拿冠軍就缺不了阿罵,否則碰到灰熊這種球隊就只能
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12/04 14:58, , 4F
看天吃飯了
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12/04 15:08, , 5F
pick-and-roll為啥會翻成跑轟
12/04 15:08, 5F
喔喔 謝謝提醒,是擋拆 XDD 已改囉:)) ※ 編輯: skymay 來自: 111.242.18.219 (12/04 15:14)

12/04 15:13, , 6F
自從武僧上任後,就不覺得瓜罵無法相容。尤其打出8-2
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12/04 15:15, , 7F
上一季啊罵和MELO不能成功的主要原因是教練..
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12/04 15:15, , 8F
那個教練太執著自己的風格,讓兩個人場上功能衝突
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12/04 15:15, , 9F
正妹好直白!
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12/04 15:28, , 10F
推正妹XD 從上一季武僧上任就相信沒問題+1
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12/04 16:51, , 11F
好期待這個化學效應的加成!!!就看武僧巫術的調配了!
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12/04 16:54, , 12F
比起瓜罵 泰罵的問題比較不好解決 不管是在太陽 甜瓜來
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12/04 16:55, , 13F
的前後的尼克 阿罵都是一個需要禁區空間的球員
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12/04 16:56, , 14F
本文中提了些解決拳王跟阿罵空間問題的方法 但那仍只是
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12/04 16:57, , 15F
理論
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12/04 17:06, , 16F
就等著看阿罵在暑假學習的成果吧 XD
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12/04 17:07, , 17F
武僧對他們還有一個很特別的地方就是會陪他們看影帶找問題
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12/04 17:07, , 18F
所以他才叫大夢來指導阿罵拳王和瓜還有坎比
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12/04 17:39, , 19F
另外其實這8勝2負拳王也都在喔 XD
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12/04 19:04, , 20F
我記得 瓜罵+林不是 6W1L 更猛嗎XDDDDD
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12/04 19:06, , 21F
阿罵的關鍵在於防守的付出,不要進攻第一,要籃板第一
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12/04 19:36, , 22F
真的很期待阿罵回來
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12/04 21:09, , 23F
如果武僧能成功讓瓜罵合體,那他的教練評價上昇超級高..
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12/04 21:09, , 24F
因為他作到了公認進攻天才冷笑話也做不到的事
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12/04 21:29, , 25F
其實武僧也沒做什麼,就是要他們做好防守,然後進攻放他們
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12/04 21:29, , 26F
自由而已 XD 頂多就是在跟他們說球可以多多流動 XD
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12/04 21:30, , 27F
不過這跟冷笑話一直要他們跑戰術很不一樣 XD
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12/04 21:31, , 28F
而瓜罵剛好就是得分手,我倒覺得正好跟武僧蠻搭的 XD
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12/04 21:32, , 29F
因為武僧之前被質疑的問題就是他的隊伍都很貧攻 XD
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12/04 21:35, , 30F
現在有了三PG+兩個得分高手,反而有利於武僧不用頭痛得分問
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12/04 21:35, , 31F
題 XD
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12/05 00:03, , 32F
我也覺得三PG可以讓瓜罵連的很順暢!!
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12/05 01:05, , 33F
有沒有人跟我一樣覺得拳王的走位更多變了 ? 我真的很期待阿
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12/05 01:06, , 34F
罵的低位 他可以吸怪等於空檔又更大 不過我想防守還是最重要
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12/05 01:07, , 35F
總覺得可以期待超貴訓練 (喂喂喂)
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12/05 01:07, , 36F
對呀拳王能跑的位置變更多,威脅性變更大!!
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12/05 09:41, , 37F
尼克加油!!!!!! YA~
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