[外電] 武僧的新尼克進攻巫術大解析

看板Knicks作者 (BSH99)時間13年前 (2012/11/16 00:35), 編輯推噓23(23028)
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http://ppt.cc/JMbO 這不是個好翻的東西~有錯請幫指正感激你~ Mike Woodson And The Surprisingly Innovative Knicks Offense 武僧與他的新尼克進攻體系 When Mike Woodson had the interim title removed from his name and was officially hired as the head coach of the New York Knicks, I was skeptical of his ability to design an offense that maximized the talent on hand. Woodson’ s isolation-based offensive system – derisively nicknamed Iso Joe and/or Iso Melo by detractors – was slowed to a halt by the world champion Miami Heat in the first round of last year’s playoffs, and routinely suffered the same fate at the hands of the Boston Celtics, Chicago Bulls or some other team during his years as head coach of the Atlanta Hawks. 當武僧把她身上的代理尼克教練標籤撕掉的時候,我很懷疑他是否能完全發揮出這支球隊的 進攻天賦,武僧那著名的ISO體系--很多人笑稱那是ISO-JOE跟ISO-MELO。 這套體系也常常止步於第一輪,像去年就被冠軍隊伍熱火所擊敗,而在他當老鷹總教練時期 對上老賽跟公牛或是其他球隊也常讓武僧嘗到相同的滋味。 Given more time to consider my thoughts later in the summer (i.e. after the draft and free agency), I remained less than enthused by Woodson’s hiring, mostly due to his failings as an offensive tactician and the poor fit his offense represented with much of the Knicks personnel, especially the new point guards. Neither Raymond Felton or Jason Kidd is a particular good outside shooter at this stage of their career, and sticking them in an isolation-heavy offense and turning them into spot-up shooters seemed a waste of Felton’s pick-and-roll game and Kidd’s passing prowess. 在經過暑假那陣交易案後,我對這個看法多了點保留餘地,我仍舊對武僧的上任不感興趣 因為他那貧乏的進攻戰術,真的適合尼克現在的陣容嗎,尤其是有了新控衛的出現。 不管事肥頓還是老基都是個不錯的外圍射手,如果堅持把她們融入高度重視ISO的體制內, 讓他們當個定點射手,感覺上是有點浪費肥頓的P&R跟老基的傳球。 Closer to the start of the season, I expressed extreme doubt that the offense the Knicks figured to be running – the offense Woodson had run for the entirety of his head coaching career – could succeed in the modern NBA, and even went so far as to call it an anachronism. Given the new defensive rules put in place over the last decade, they can effectively cut off isolation offenses at the knees, meaning that repetitive and predictable isolations are where playoff dreams go to die. 在接近新賽季開始,我極端地對尼克的進攻感到擔心,我認為武僧那套是落伍的,在這 十年內所新增的規則,他們極有效率的切斷ISO戰術的效用,這代表著,不斷地使用ISO 將會讓你們的季後賽之夢夢碎。 Through the first four games of this season, Woodson had made me look like a fool. He has designed an almost entirely new offensive system involving a heavy dose of off-ball screening, pick-and-rolls, post-ups, dribble hand-offs, and rapid, decisive, side-to-side ball movement around the perimeter. 不過在經過開季四場比賽後,武僧讓我覺得之前的我根本是傻瓜,她設計出了全新的 進攻體系,並且用了大量的SCREEN,P&R,低位,無球跑動,球的轉移極為快速跟果斷! What Woodson has done is tailor an offense to the personnel he has, rather than try to fit that personnel into preconceived roles based on the system he had run during his tenure in Atlanta and last season in New York. The result has been the league’s best offense through this early part of the season, one that has the Knicks sitting at 4-0 as the NBA’s lone remaining undefeated team. 武僧設計出來的新進攻體系是把每個人的特點都融為其中,而不是他之前在老鷹跟去年尼克 打的那套戰術,這套體系已經是全聯盟目前為止最棒的進攻體系,他讓尼克打出開季4-0, 獨領聯盟龍頭的位子。 At the center of it all is Carmelo Anthony, who is running fewer isolations and more post-ups than at any point in his career. Felton and Pablo Prigioni are getting copious amounts of pick-and-roll opportunities with Anthony, Tyson Chandler, Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace. JR Smith, Steve Novak and Kidd are coming off screens from every direction and seeing a plethora of open 3-point opportunities. Ronnie Brewer is lurking behind all the action for corner 3′s and cuts to the rim. 這套戰術的核心是瓜瓜,他目前打出他生涯中最少的ISO比例跟更多的低位,肥頓跟老普 用了相當大量的P&R的機會,不論是跟老錢,瓜,老KT,還是老西蛙。 而JR,腰帶王,老基則透過各種SCREEN來創造出空檔3分的機會,小酒則活耀於底角跟 空切。 Carmelo Anthony The primary goal of each possession is to get the ball the Anthony in the post, whether on the right block or the left elbow. All but two of Anthony’s post-up possessions so far this season have originated from one of those two spots. 瓜瓜 最主要的目標就是先瘋狂地把球塞給低位的瓜瓜,不管是在右邊或是左肘區,至今為止 尼克的戰術起點都是起於這兩個動作之一。 Post-ups have accounted for a career-high 22.6% of Carmelo’s possessions this season, per mySynergySports. Last season, that number was just 13%. During his Knick stint in the 2010-11 season, it was only 11.4%. Much of this has to with the Anthony’s much-discussed move to power forward – where he has a quickness advantage over nearly every player that defends him, which aids his face-up game – but it also seems to be a concerted, designed effort to get him the ball in more optimal places to score. 瓜今年在低位的比例已經是他生涯最高的22.6%,上賽季他的低位比例才13%,上上賽季 更低才11.4%,不過這跟他今年扛PF有關就是了,他在PF時有速度上的優勢,這對他面框 很有幫助,這也算是對他而言更理想的方式去得分。 Carmelo has always been a player whose game has tilted toward the right side of the floor. For example, he took 90 jumpers from the right elbow compared to just 28 from the left elbow last season, via NBA.com. However, he made only 34.4% of those right elbow jumpers, while knocking down 46.4% of his shots from the left elbow. So the Knicks have made an effort to move some of his post-ups from that right wing area he likes so much, over to the left elbow. He’s mostly attacked via the dribble drive when he’s posted there, but just due to being in a more dangerous position on the court, he’s at an advantage over last season. As a result, he is 10-for-18 from the field with 5 shooting fouls drawn – good for 1.25 points per possession (PPP) – and has scored on 62.5% of his post-up opportunities, per Synergy. 瓜一直很喜歡在右側打球,舉例來說,上賽季他的90次跳投中只有28次是在左側肘區, 但是他的右側肘區的跳投命中只有34.4%,而在左側卻有46.4%,所以尼克必須盡力讓 瓜從他最愛的右翼出手,移一些次數到低位去,而在左肘區,當他在那邊的低位時, 他大多會採取切入的方式,就只是因為那裡是球場上很具有威脅性的位子,他在那邊 很常要到犯規,而且他的得分有62.5%是來自在低位的機會。 Many of Carmelo’s post-ups are of the traditional variety where he simply sprints down the floor and acquires position on his defender (this has been especially true in delayed transition), sticks his hand in the air and waits for a pass. However, the Knicks have also used more creative ways to get the ball to Anthony in the post – for instance, make him the screener in a pick-and-roll, and have him roll his way into the post. 尼克大多會創造機會來把球送到在低位的瓜 像這樣。 http://ppt.cc/UdTA This play also highlights what has without a doubt been the best and most important part of Anthony’s post game this season: his willingness to draw in a double team and kick the ball out to open shooters. His willingness to pass out of those doubles has permeated through the rest of the roster, as the Knicks routinely ping the ball around the perimeter until something opens up. Anthony has long been labeled an inefficient ball hog who just guns for his own shots and refuses to look for the open man. That label could not be more ill-fitting this season. 這種打法是毫無疑問是很突出的,而最重要的部分就是瓜的低位,瓜也很樂意當遇到 (所以之後可能變成阿罵@@) 包夾時把球傳出來,他的樂意傳球將會傳染到尼克名單上的每個人身上,瓜有很長的時間 被稱為"效率差的持球者,而且自顧自的投籃,也不願去看那些處於空檔的人",不過這個 標籤可能這賽季就會撕掉了! Anthony has been patient and reactive in the post (and everywhere else), constantly looking to keep the ball moving. If he gets doubled, he passes it out to Felton, Kidd, Smith, Novak, Brewer, anybody. If the defense just feigns a double, or if they leave him single-covered altogether, he attacks quickly and decisively with his turnaround jumper or a face-up dribble drive. 瓜在低位是很有耐心的,而且很專注於讓球輪轉,如果他被包夾,他就會把球傳給肥頓, 老基,JR,腰帶王,小酒,任何一個人,如果防守者只是假裝包夾,或是他們只留一個 在盯防他,那麼瓜會以迅雷不及掩耳的方式,果斷地吃掉對手。 Coupled with his rise in post-up plays has been a decline in Anthony’s favorite play – isolations. Just 21.7% of his possessions so far this season have been of the Iso Melo variety, compared with 35.4% last season and 37% during his 2010-11 Knick stint. The drop in designed isolation plays has kept the Knicks’ ball movement crisp. The rise in other kinds of opportunities, along with Carmelo’s trust that they will come later in the possession if he kicks the ball out, has kept him from breaking the offense to isolate, as he so often did both in Denver with George Karl and under Mike D’Antoni in New York. 而瓜這季打得方式也有大改變了,ISO僅僅只有21.7%,上賽季是35.4%,上上賽季是37%, 因此球的轉移非常乾淨俐落,瓜非常相信機會總會到來的,如果球的流動被斷了,瓜會 毫不猶豫的走上前來轉成ISO模式,當初他在丹佛跟在冷哥底下時就很常這麼做了。 Pick-and-rolls If the Knicks can’t get the ball to Melo in the post, the next option on the possession is a pick-and-roll between Felton and Tyson Chandler. As we well know, Chandler is one of the best pick-and-roll finishers in the league. Over the past two seasons, he has ranked 18th and 2nd in PPP as a roll man, per Synergy. His small sample size 1.78 PPP as a roll man so far this season would dwarf his mark from each of the past two seasons, and though it is not nearly sustainable, it does indicate just how effective he is finishing around the rim in pick-and-roll situations. Chandler’s presence has been a boon for Felton, who struggled with turnovers in pick-and-rolls last season. He’s cut those turnovers down by over 5% and raised his field goal percentage in pick-and-rolls nearly 2 points in the early part of this season. 現在來談尼克的P&R 如果尼克沒辦法把球交給在低位的瓜瓜,下一個選項就是讓肥頓跟老錢打P&R,我們都知道 老錢是一個非常棒的P&R終結者,在過去的兩個賽季中,身為ROLL MAN已經是他這兩年來的 註冊商標了,縮然這只是小樣本還不足以說明論點,讓我們來看看他的P&R的影響吧。 老錢的存在對肥頓來說是大幫助,肥頓上賽季掙扎於P&R的失誤,他現在TO至少先少個5% 而且他的FG%大約多了2%。 Even more impressive for Felton has been his passing out of pick-and-rolls, as seen above. He’s made sweet rim music with Chandler on more than one occasion, tossing him alley-oops left and right (honestly, he’s hunting for them far too often). Though Felton has yet to carry over his strong first quarter starts through the rest of the game, his early play, and in particular his creative passing, has set the tone of the rest of the game. http://ppt.cc/Iguw 看看上面這個肥頓跟老錢的P&R,肥頓那有創造力的傳球,在接下來的比賽中訂下了節奏。 One particular pick-and-roll play the Knicks have run that I have fallen in love with is this triple pick-and-roll, with screens set first by JR Smith, then by Steve Novak, and then by any of the Knicks’ cadre of bigs. Smith rolls to the corner, Novak to the wing, and the big through the middle of the lane. http://ppt.cc/Nvw- 這張圖是是我超愛的那種三重P&R,看看JR先做第一次的SCREEN,然後腰帶王再做一次, JR往底角走,而腰帶王走向側翼,而大個子在弧頂SCREEN一次在往內切。 Here, the Miami heat smother Pablo Prigioni coming around the screens. But they’re the Miami Heat for a reason. Their athleticism, size and the style of defense they play all work in concert to disrupt even the best pick-and-roll attacks. http://ppt.cc/hq3W 就是上面這影片,雖然老普最後執行失敗了,但你自己看看KT跟JR都是大空檔。 不過對方是熱火隊,他們有那種體能可以這樣玩。 Against the Dallas Mavericks, the play worked to perfection. Sheed’s roll down the middle of the lane draws just enough defensive attention so that Novak is open on the wing. As the defense closes out hard on the league’s best 3-point shooter, he simply skips it over to Smith, who is waiting wide open in the corner. http://ppt.cc/e0a6 在看上面這影片,對小牛的時候這三重SCREEN就很成功了。 Off-ball screens The creative and purposeful use of off-ball screens has been without a doubt the most surprising – and best, and my favorite, and any other superlative you can think of – thing about the new-look Knick offense. The use of screens has ranged from very simple, like the cross-screen Carmelo receives from Chandler to free him for an elbow jumper above, or the back screen Steve Novak gets to create an open 3-pointer below, to things that are much more complicated and creative. http://ppt.cc/P_bL 另外個特點就是:無球SCREEN 看看上面那影片:老錢幫瓜製造出空檔 http://ppt.cc/TnHK 或是像上面這樣幫腰帶王創造出三分空檔。 One thing the Knicks have been doing a lot of is screen-for-screener plays, only not in the way you usually think of them. When most teams run screen-for-screener plays, they’ll have a guy set a screen, then receive one. It’s a good way to create backdoor lob opportunities, especially when you have explosive finishers who double as great screen-setters, like Tyson Chandler. But what the Knicks are doing is setting screens for the guy who is going to screen for somebody else, thus creating separation not only between the ball-handler and his man, but also between the screener and his man before the screen is even set. 尼克已經做了很多SCREEN的PLAY了,不只是你總是想得那種,當大部分的隊伍都在玩 SCREEN時,他們將會讓一個傢伙上來SCREEN,然後在往內切,這是很常見的開後門方式, 尤其是你的終結者又是個不錯的SCREEN者時,像老錢這種就特別好用,但是尼克在做的 不僅僅只是上前SCREEN,同時還會有人來幫SCREEN者掩護,因此,他們創造出來的空間 不只是持球者跟SCREEN者之間的,甚至還包含了那些額外的SCREEN者。 (這裡好像在繞口令= =) http://ppt.cc/ixbU 看看上面這影片,先是腰帶王假裝上前要去幫肥頓SCREEN,途中JR先幫腰帶王SCREEN, 然後JR往內跑幫老錢SCREEN,老錢繞出來假裝幫肥頓SCREEN,在往內跑, 瞧!禁區的大空檔就這樣出來了,而喇叭詹那無精打采的協防不成威脅。 There are some possessions where the Knicks are setting so many off-ball picks that it almost makes you dizzy. 尼克這幾場做超多這種無球SCREEN,幾乎會讓你看到眼花! http://ppt.cc/aNd5 看看上面這個,JR先幫腰帶王SCREEN,JR內切幫老錢SCREEN,老錢繞出來幫瓜SCREEN, 老錢再上前假裝幫肥頓SCREEN,這時對方已經眼花讓肥頓有空間可以直切禁區上籃, 然後肥頓在禁區在小傳球給老錢。你已經可以看到小牛那幾個驚慌的表情了~! http://ppt.cc/Dra- 上面這個也很複雜,肥頓空手往禁區切,老錢幫SCREEN,然後肥頓在往三分線跑, 瓜前來幫SCREEN,JR把球傳給跑出來的肥頓,隨後自己空手往禁區切,老錢這時再幫 (這時JR體能夠好的話,或許可以直接肥頓空拋給JR) SCREEN,這時老錢在上前幫肥頓SCREEN,肥頓持球往禁區切,老錢跟進,肥頓空拋給老錢。 這時老錢前面已經只有籃框了,要注意的是這時候肥頓左右側的瓜跟JR也是空檔阿。 The most surprising participant in all this screening action is probably JR Smith. As seen multiple times above, he’s often the man setting a pick on Chandler’s man to free him up to go set a screen of his own. The Knicks have also used Smith to set screens to free Novak, Brewer or Kidd for open jumpers. There’s an added bonus to using Smith as the screener. 令人驚訝的是,JR超積極去當SCREEN者,你可以時常看到她幫老錢,腰帶王,小酒,老基 創造空檔,另外個好處是JR自己還會偷偷跑出另外一個空檔。 http://ppt.cc/dSyh 看看這個,就是JR幫腰帶王SCREEN,然後自己再偷跑出另外一個空檔。 (尤其是現在JR三分命中率是可怕的72%...) Dribble Hand-offs If the post-up for Carmelo isn’t there, and the high pick-and-roll isn’t there, this is often the next option on any given Knick possession. Felton will enter the ball to Chandler (or Thomas or Wallace, but mostly Chandler) in the high post, or Kidd on the wing, and then either set a screen for Brewer, Smith or Novak in the corner, who comes to receive a dribble hand-off from Chandler, or take a rub screen from Chandler on a cut to the hoop and pop out off a screen on the other side for another pick-and-roll opportunity. http://ppt.cc/YSVo 這個是另外一種的方式,肥頓帶球過半場,老錢上高位,肥頓傳球給老錢,肥頓空手內切 順手還幫小酒SCREEN,然後老錢傳球給小酒在幫小酒SCREEN,這時小酒已經有一個在罰球線 附近的空檔,只是他沒上就把球再丟還給肥頓@@。 (仔細想想JR在魔術戰倒是有蠻多這種在罰球線附近的空檔跳投) http://ppt.cc/Znrq 這也是~ It is nothing short of shocking to me that Mike Woodson designed this offense. It looks almost nothing like Iso Joe, Iso Melo, or whatever you want to call the offense that he ran in Atlanta and last season in New York. There are a few elements here and there, but the creativity he has shown with the use of screens both on and off the ball, the lack of isolations and the fact that he has tailored an offense to his personnel rather than trying to fit square pegs in the round holes of his preferred system are all pleasant surprises. In the early part of this season, Mike Woodson’s New York Knicks have an offense that is one of the most innovative and fun to watch in the entire league, and that is certainly something I never thought I’d be saying. 總之,現在尼克打得讓我有點小震驚,武僧設計了這套進攻,這看起來幾乎沒有跟他以前的 ISO-JOE或ISO-MELO像的地方,但是武僧已經展現出他的創造力了,他利用這些SCREEN 跟無球跑動,並且減少了ISO的比例,事實上,他已經開始在融合這些球員的進攻,而不是 試圖把人訂死在他的體系裡,這對我來說就是個大驚喜了。 這個賽季才剛開始,武僧的紐約尼克隊已經打出了一種具有創新跟觀看性的打法!! 我之前從來沒想過壓根沒想過我會講出這樣的話呢~ ------------------------------------------------------------- 這一定是幻覺~這都是武僧的巫術~都是騙人的~ -- ─∥ ── ="’. ∵ ◆ ψsherry821224 ────────────── \ Teammates don't  ̄◣  ̄╲  ̄╲ ‵、λ﹀ play with each _ ─-.╳ ︶- other, they play ρ\ `, ▲ FOR each other. ─∥ _╱ ╲╲_◢ | ────────…‥. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 180.218.213.115

11/16 00:54, , 1F
專業!
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11/16 00:54, , 2F
看影片也覺得melo單打變少了 但沒想到統計出來 少這麼多~
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11/16 00:54, , 3F
武僧真的有在想辦法 以往melo單打都是沒辦法的辦法..
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11/16 01:19, , 4F
ISO其實蠻好用的 只消耗一個人體力 其他人休息等籃板
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11/16 01:21, , 5F
能夠切進去大屁股 距離近一點基本上有空檔進球穩定度還是高
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11/16 01:21, , 6F
不過這對腰帶王那種長程火砲就不適用 XDDDD
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11/16 01:28, , 7F
但說穿了現在這套 就是melo吸怪 大家會動 會跑就有球射XD
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11/16 01:29, , 8F
明天這套對popo這老狐狸不知道有沒有效 不過以melo為戰術
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11/16 01:29, , 9F
melo傳球慾望↑團隊跑動慾望↑戰績↑球迷爽度↑↑↑↑↑↑
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11/16 01:29, , 10F
核心 我還挺喜歡的 至少撕裂防守很奏效 讚!
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11/16 01:30, , 11F
嘿呀~我上季就有說過了 melo最好用的地方是吸怪 不是單打XD
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11/16 01:31, , 12F
武僧衝刺減肥↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑
11/16 01:31, 12F

11/16 01:31, , 13F
而且現在內線有melo牽制 外線有JR牽制 要破解至少要兩隻鎖
11/16 01:31, 13F

11/16 01:33, , 14F
我覺得 在各隊越來越熟悉我們的戰術後 阿罵的回歸是轉捩點
11/16 01:33, 14F

11/16 01:34, , 15F
阿罵如果能保持健康 最怕又碰上撞牆期
11/16 01:34, 15F

11/16 01:35, , 16F
我相信武僧有辦法解決 拳王 melo 阿罵空間的衝突~(調度XD
11/16 01:35, 16F

11/16 01:35, , 17F
連勝又連敗 我的心臟肯定受不了的
11/16 01:35, 17F

11/16 01:36, , 18F
連敗也沒多大不好 至少問題被打出來了XD
11/16 01:36, 18F

11/16 01:36, , 19F
但我個人認為 阿罵中距離手感回來 什麼問題都解決了..
11/16 01:36, 19F

11/16 01:37, , 20F
問題最好能直接在場上解決啦 幸好武僧不是冷笑話那種老頑固
11/16 01:37, 20F

11/16 01:38, , 21F
以目前的調度來看 表現不好就顧板凳 武僧應該沒在怕的
11/16 01:38, 21F

11/16 01:40, , 22F
冷笑話太依賴控球了 我們沒有NASH CP3或蝶龍那種頂級控球
11/16 01:40, 22F

11/16 01:41, , 23F
去發揮冷笑話的功力....控球被顧死 麻煩就來了..
11/16 01:41, 23F

11/16 01:43, , 24F
老基該慶幸冷笑話已經走了嗎 不然這把老骨頭.....
11/16 01:43, 24F

11/16 01:44, , 25F
XD 打太久的話 KIDD要防守付出的體力太多了..
11/16 01:44, 25F

11/16 01:46, , 26F
這季我們打出來的球看得就是舒服~
11/16 01:46, 26F

11/16 01:46, , 27F
melo傳球慾望↑團隊跑動慾望↑戰績↑球迷爽度↑↑↑↑↑
11/16 01:46, 27F

11/16 01:48, , 28F
明天終於能跟live了 興奮的睡不著呢!!YA
11/16 01:48, 28F

11/16 01:48, , 29F
我要早點睡了 晚安~ (不想睡過頭 錯過本季第一場Live...=.=
11/16 01:48, 29F

11/16 01:49, , 30F
same here! bye
11/16 01:49, 30F

11/16 01:50, , 31F
掰掰~早上見~(^_<)~☆---
11/16 01:50, 31F

11/16 01:59, , 32F
看樣子一切都得看JR了。XDDD
11/16 01:59, 32F

11/16 02:14, , 33F
未看先猜兩位都睡過頭
11/16 02:14, 33F

11/16 06:09, , 34F
本版有B大真是太棒了~按很多個讚^^
11/16 06:09, 34F

11/16 06:10, , 35F
感謝B大的翻譯!!! 大推武僧的進化!! 之前真的很多人都一直
11/16 06:10, 35F

11/16 06:11, , 36F
不看好武僧 XDD 還一直罵武僧只會叫球員單打 XD
11/16 06:11, 36F

11/16 07:35, , 37F
Screen!!!
11/16 07:35, 37F

11/16 07:59, , 38F
推翻譯,看戰術看得好熱血啊!
11/16 07:59, 38F

11/16 09:29, , 39F
...傑發..<(# ̄皿 ̄)╮☆(__ __||)
11/16 09:29, 39F

11/16 09:30, , 40F
猜錯了>_<
11/16 09:30, 40F

11/16 12:23, , 41F
pro
11/16 12:23, 41F

11/16 16:34, , 42F
年初其實就有討論,武僧當年也是無可用之兵,只好玩ISO戰術
11/16 16:34, 42F

11/16 16:35, , 43F
更別說今年季後賽的慘狀,能打什麼戰術,巧婦難為無米之炊
11/16 16:35, 43F

11/16 20:34, , 44F
thx!!!
11/16 20:34, 44F

11/16 21:35, , 45F
我想罵髒話!!!!! 我看得超嗨!!!!!
11/16 21:35, 45F

11/16 21:36, , 46F
無球screen超級棒
11/16 21:36, 46F

11/16 21:37, , 47F
平常看球會一直盯著持球者看 再來就是跟持球者直接相
11/16 21:37, 47F

11/16 21:37, , 48F
關的左右那兩個球員,以後會多看看在中間跑無球的人!!
11/16 21:37, 48F

11/16 22:36, , 49F
今天老基抄球->melo單打,遇三人包->妙傳肥頓,前面有牆,迴轉
11/16 22:36, 49F

11/16 22:37, , 50F
後拋JR大空檔三分得手.............在場觀眾都歡呼了
11/16 22:37, 50F

11/17 17:44, , 51F
11/17 17:44, 51F
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