Re: [閒聊] Finally, a Definitive Answer on Jeremy

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※ 引述《Joba07 (騙人布)》之銘言: : http://knickerblogger.net/finally-a-definitive-answer-on-jeremy- lins-contract-status/ : While it pains me to basically just re-post what I originally posted five : days ago before I was convinced to edit my original piece, now that we have : apparently as definitive of an answer on the topic as we’re going to get : from the great Howard Beck from the New York Times, I figured it made sense : to share the situation (which, again, has finally been verified by Beck). 這是篇以查證過的消息。 : Here, then, is the contract status for Jeremy Lin… 有關Lin得合約。 : Lin is not eligible for so-called “Early Bird Rights,” which means a player 我們沒有他的沒有早鳥權。 早鳥權,在球隊打至少超過兩年的球員才能擁有,這個權力 可以隨著交易轉移到別隊。 : that has played for a team for at least two years. In the NBA CBA, you can : transfer your Bird Rights if you were traded from one team to another. So if : Lin had been traded from the Golden State Warriors to the Knicks, the Knicks 所以如果Lin是從勇士隊交易過來的話,我們會擁有的他早鳥權。 然而,他被勇士隊給釋出了,早鳥權限的計算在此同時被重置。 : would have his “Early Bird Rights.” However, since he was waived by the : Warriors, as soon as he was waived, his Bird Rights reset. Therefore, Lin : counts only as having played for the Knicks for one single season. : Landry Fields, having played for the Knicks for two years, has “Early Bird : Rights.” What it basically comes down is that the Knicks are allowed to go : over the cap to pay Fields anything up to the average salary (which is Fields在尼克打了兩年,所以我們有他的早鳥權,我們可以在不受薪資空間限制下, 對他續約,薪水約是500萬鎂。 : roughly $5 million). Since Lin has no Early Bird Rights, the Knicks are not : allowed to go over the cap to re-sign him (besides a general raise of paying : him 125% of his current salary – this is an exception available to all free : agents in the NBA. Their current team can offer them a raise for the next : season of 120% of their current salary. For Lin that’d be roughly $1 million : (it is 125% for Lin since he is a restricted free agent, and your qualifying : offer for a restricted free agent has to be at least 125% of the player’s : current salary, so that is the bare minimum the Knicks can offer Lin for next : season – that extra 5% is no chump change). 尼克並沒有Lin的早鳥權,所以在薪資帽的限制下尼克無法對他續約,除非使用一個 例外條款,不過這個例外條款並沒有什麼吸引力。 : Since the Knicks will be over the $58 million salary cap this offseason but : under the $70 million luxury cap, the Knicks will have access to both of the : major exceptions. The Bi-Annual Exception (which is roughly $2 million and : available, naturally enough, every other year – so long as you’re over the : cap and under the luxury cap) and the Mid-Level Exception, which is roughly 尼克明年的薪資將會超過薪資帽但是低於豪華稅門檻,因此有兩個例外條款, 約200萬的雙年條款和約500萬的中產條款。 : $5 million (available every year, provided you are over the cap and under the : luxury cap). They can pay Lin under either of the two. : Where the Knicks luck out is the fact that both Lin and Fields, since they’ : re coming off their initial two-year contracts (while the Knicks did not gain : Lin’s Early Bird Rights, they at least did inherit his original two-year : contract), they are both restricted free agents this year. Not only that, but : they are governed by the so-called “Gilbert Arenas Provision.” This limits : the amount of money other teams can offer either Lin or Fields to a maximum : starting salary of the average NBA salary (roughly $5 million). 而因為Arenas條款,其他球隊只能開給Fiedls和Lin約500萬中產的起薪。 : Since the Knicks own Fields’ Early Bird Rights, they can match any offer : without having to use their mid-level exception. However, since Lin does not : have Early Bird Rights, the Knicks would have to dip into their exceptions : (and almost certainly the mid-level) to match any offer sheet for Lin. : So the good news is that the Knicks are guaranteed to be able to keep both : Fields and Lin if they want to. The bad news is that if anyone makes an offer : of over $2 million to Lin, the Knicks would have to dip into their mid-level : exception to pay for it, therefore effectively nullifying the MLE as a tool : to sign a good free agent (like, say, Steve Nash). So they might be in a : situation where they would have to choose between Nash and Lin. Who would you : choose? 而因為我們有Fields的早鳥權,所以我們可以不動用例外條款續約他, 但是如果有人開給Lin超過200萬鎂的合約時,我們就需要動用我們的中產來簽下他。 : One tricky aspect of the Gilbert Arenas Provision is that teams could still : sign Lin to deals bigger than just the MLE times however many years (like 4 : years/$20 million), they just can’t have the first two years be larger than : the MLE so that the Knicks cannot be outbid. The first year has to be for $5 : million. However, if a team is, say, $11 million under the cap, they can : offer Lin a 4 year/$44 million contract (you have to be currently under the : cap by whatever the average yearly figure of the deal is). The first two : years would be for the MLE and then the last two years would be backloaded so : that the entire deal would average out to $44 million (so the first two years : would be $5 million a year and the last two years would basically have to be : $16 million a year each). It is highly unlikely that a team would throw such : backloaded payments into a deal, as it is not good for anyone’s salary cap, : but I can imagine a team figuring that it would be especially bad for the : Knicks, what with the increases in Melo and STAT and Chandler’s salaries in : three years. Imagine the luxury tax that the Knicks would have to pay! So do : not be surprised if a team tries to give Lin a deal for more than $5 million : a year. Still, if Dolan is willing to pay the luxury tax, then the Knicks : cannot be outbid. 那麼有沒有可能有一些特殊情況發生呢? 有可能的,如果有一支球隊有11m的薪資空間 ,那麼他們將可以開給Lin一份,4年44m的合約,這份合約的前兩年是中產每年約500萬, 而後兩年每年約1600萬,不太有可能有球隊這樣做,這樣對薪資結構的傷害太大了。 : So that’s pretty much it. The Knicks can keep both Fields and Lin, but if : they keep Lin, they are pretty much saying goodbye to any other notable free : agent. With the way Lin is playing, though, that is not such a bad thing. : Thanks to Larry Coon for his invaluable Salary Cap FAQ, which turned out to : be absolutely right on target (as it said “If a player is waived and is : claimed by another team before he clears waivers, then his Bird clock resets” : ). And thanks to the aforementioned Howard Beck! : =================================================== : 另一個觀點 這篇作者認為尼克隊沒有早鳥權 要請高手指點一下 我們可以留下Fields和Lin,不過可能就沒什麼機會覬覦其他自由球員了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 117.56.253.217

02/15 23:05, , 1F
前幾天也有一串Lin的薪資討論文,那一篇原文也是同一個作者
02/15 23:05, 1F

02/15 23:07, , 2F
所以對Lin來說沒差 但是對尼克來說必須用掉中產就有差了
02/15 23:07, 2F

02/15 23:10, , 3F
那這樣說幾乎就要用掉中產了 200萬以上一定有人出...
02/15 23:10, 3F

02/15 23:11, , 4F
尼克下個球季如果能維持現在陣容就很夠了吧, 重點應該是磨合.
02/15 23:11, 4F

02/15 23:13, , 5F

02/15 23:13, , 6F
另外可以參考
02/15 23:13, 6F

02/15 23:25, , 7F
目前這個陣容還不行吧 禁區替補不夠 缺乏第二位穩定射手
02/15 23:25, 7F

02/15 23:27, , 8F
Lin 的替補 防守大鎖 第六人得分好手 如果BD可以恢復以前的
02/15 23:27, 8F

02/15 23:28, , 9F
七成的話 3 5項有解 但是下一季薪水要簽多少? 防守大鎖要把
02/15 23:28, 9F

02/15 23:29, , 10F
Shumpert練起來(看來似乎有望) 最大的問題就是禁區替補y
02/15 23:29, 10F

02/15 23:29, , 11F
防守我認為香波和Fields未來都是好選擇, 禁區的確需要考慮.
02/15 23:29, 11F

02/15 23:30, , 12F
阿罵防守又不大行 只要C PF有犯規麻煩 禁區就不大妙了
02/15 23:30, 12F

02/15 23:30, , 13F

02/15 23:32, , 14F
如果 BD 可以簽老將底薪的話 那就比較好辦 看起來Walker和
02/15 23:32, 14F

02/15 23:33, , 15F
BB似乎比較囧 那個 JJ 有辦法練起來嗎?
02/15 23:33, 15F

02/15 23:34, , 16F
希望Camby約滿能回來~~
02/15 23:34, 16F

02/16 00:02, , 17F
禁區替補可以練JORTS 只是大JJ如果練得起來的話就還好0.0
02/16 00:02, 17F

02/16 00:16, , 18F
lin system 應該會有老將有興趣加入吧
02/16 00:16, 18F
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