[活動] E7甲王點陸航試算

看板KanColle作者 (掰咖一個月當四年殭屍)時間6年前 (2017/08/28 22:57), 6年前編輯推噓15(15010)
留言25則, 6人參與, 最新討論串1/1
「這次E7斬殺 陸航有一堆流派 到底哪一派比較好呢」 然後發現光是用想的不可能想出來 所以我就自己寫了一個小程式來模擬 王點互角線153、劣勢77 一、第一波劣勢流 組合A 64>>+34>>+34>>+大艇 制空143 54>>+34>>+14>>+PBY 制空109 14>>+野中>>+銀河>>+22>> 制空56←以下這組稱為56 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,67.72%,32.28%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,32.03%,67.97%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,57.47%,42.53%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,6.17%,78.92%,14.91% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,12.15%,75.83%,12.02% 本隊制空:338,169,75,38 A-1 同組合A 但攻擊機制空全部歸零 64>>+34+34+大艇 制空135 54>>+34+14+PBY 制空102 14+野中+銀河+22 制空44 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,42.81%,57.19%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,17.23%,82.77%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,37.11%,62.89%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.48%,34.70%,64.81% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.62%,36.60%,61.78% 本隊制空:387,194,86,43 A-2 同A 但熟練剩一半(|||) 64>>+34|||+34|||+大艇 制空139 56>>+34|||+14|||+PBY 制空106 14|||+野中|||+銀河|||+22||| 制空52 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,54.39%,45.61%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,25.10%,74.90%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,49.02%,50.98%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,3.33%,66.90%,29.77% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,7.05%,67.43%,25.51% 本隊制空:355,178,79,40 組合B A的一二隊互換 54>>+34>>+14>>+PBY 制空109 64>>+34>>+34>>+大艇 制空143 56 制空56 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,94.09%,5.91%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.09%,99.10%,0.81%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,2.77%,88.55%,8.68% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,8.65%,84.36%,6.99% 本隊制空:322,161,72,36 B-1 攻擊機熟練歸零 制空102 制空135 制空44 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,81.76%,18.24%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,95.82%,4.18%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.03%,55.34%,44.64% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.55%,58.00%,41.44% 本隊制空:352,176,79,40 B-2 熟練||| 制空106 制空139 制空52 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,88.64%,11.36%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.01%,97.98%,2.01%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.06%,81.41%,17.52% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,4.47%,80.44%,15.09% 本隊制空:331,166,74,37 結論: 1. 第一隊能劣勢就好,制空值要全灌在第二隊上,這樣第五六波的空喪率最低 2. 熟練還是練一下比較好 3. 幫用組合A還刷熟練的人QQ 得到的效果和組合B不刷熟練差不多 第一波互角流 組合C 大艇+隼III>>+54>>+34>> 制空172 PBY +64>> +34>>+34>> 制空143 56 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.03%,97.22%,2.75%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,8.51%,91.11%,0.38%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.02%,16.03%,80.01%,3.94% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.34%,26.77%,69.67%,3.23% 本隊制空:275,138,61,31 C-2 攻擊機(ry 大艇+隼III>>+54>>+34 制空168 PBY +64>> +34 +34 制空135 44 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,91.77%,8.23%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,5.25%,92.84%,1.91%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,3.33%,72.86%,23.81% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.02%,6.95%,71.36%,21.67% 本隊制空:294,147,66,33 C-3 ||| 制空170 制空139 制空52 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,94.89%,5.11%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,6.19%,92.89%,0.92%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,10.62%,81.25%,8.13% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.08%,19.41%,73.60%,6.91% 本隊制空:280,140,63,32 結論: 雖然看起來好像不錯 但要注意這樣派少了一攻擊機 總體期望值有沒有比較高... 我不知道 _(:3 」∠ )_ 組合D 十一攻擊機空喪流 三四>>*3=60 56 14>>*4=44 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00% 本隊制空:601,301,134,67 What are you expecting? -- 如果內文沒有你的組合 歡迎在推文推 (第一隊制空,第二隊制空,第三隊制空) e.x.(109,143,56) http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html 可以幫你算制空 我可以幫你算結果 只限甲級 因為我不想改code了 _(:3 」∠ )_ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.231.49.189 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/KanColle/M.1503932231.A.A96.html

08/28 22:57, , 1F
(′・ω・‵) 算
08/28 22:57, 1F

08/28 22:59, , 2F
算個有無熟2版 http://i.imgur.com/AHCc2qo.png
08/28 22:59, 2F
有熟 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,93.89%,6.11%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.09%,99.09%,0.81%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,6.02%,89.88%,4.10% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.01%,15.42%,81.50%,3.07% 本隊制空:317,159,71,36 無熟 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,81.73%,18.27%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,95.79%,4.21%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.35%,69.38%,30.28% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,2.07%,70.57%,27.36% 本隊制空:342,171,76,38

08/28 23:01, , 3F
托馬自己點計算機啦_(:3 」∠ )_我忙到連GoT都忘記抓
08/28 23:01, 3F

08/28 23:05, , 4F
(′・ω・‵) 在那邊
08/28 23:05, 4F
加在內文了_(:3 」∠ )_不過我已經算好惹

08/28 23:08, , 5F
(′・ω・‵) 這是哪些空喪率?
08/28 23:08, 5F

08/28 23:09, , 6F
[空確、空優、互角、劣勢、空喪]的機率
08/28 23:09, 6F

08/28 23:13, , 7F
(′・ω・‵) 感謝
08/28 23:13, 7F
(′・ω・‵)b

08/28 23:16, , 8F
146,44,56 滿熟版
08/28 23:16, 8F
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,77.41%,22.59%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,5.70%,94.30% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,7.33%,92.67% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.21%,49.63%,50.16% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.33%,54.01%,44.66% 本隊制空:443,222,99,50

08/28 23:24, , 9F
謝謝,請問本隊制空是取中位數或加權平均之類的?
08/28 23:24, 9F

08/28 23:30, , 10F
算術平均數
08/28 23:30, 10F

08/28 23:35, , 11F
取PR75 50 25之類的不知會不會更有幫助?
08/28 23:35, 11F
寫得出來 但是看起來實在是亂到不行 FailFish 本隊Q3制空:534,267,119,60 本隊平均制空:438,219,98,49 本隊Q1制空:312,156,70,35

08/28 23:41, , 12F
四分位數啊...我想想看
08/28 23:41, 12F

08/28 23:45, , 13F
這程式挺實用的,也可由進王時本隊制空去算空優、確保機率
08/28 23:45, 13F

08/28 23:46, , 14F
#1OpwsiI9 供參考
08/28 23:46, 14F
我之前看過...然後看不懂日文用不來orz

08/29 00:03, , 15F
求這組_(:3」∠)_
08/29 00:03, 15F

08/29 00:04, , 16F
全滿熟
08/29 00:04, 16F
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,67.75%,32.26%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,53.78%,46.22% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,59.88%,40.12% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,33.81%,66.19% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.02%,36.30%,63.69% 本隊平均制空:429,215,96,48 我覺得你不如學托馬那樣配_(:3」∠)_

08/29 00:05, , 17F
樓上那組把一式*4拉到一隊先加減削一點制空,再接大艇隊
08/29 00:05, 17F
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,17.59%,82.41%,0.00% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,87.85%,12.15%,0.00% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.04%,71.59%,28.37% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.56%,75.78%,23.66% 本隊平均制空:420,210,94,47

08/29 00:05, , 18F
因為那三隊跟我的差不多...最佳順序應該是4一式>大艇>野中
08/29 00:05, 18F
你是對的 因為滿熟練64+34*2很接近互角線 這個組合放中間是最好的 第一隊就是要讓下駟對上駟

08/29 00:28, , 19F
感謝了ヽ(:3ノ ヽ)ノ
08/29 00:28, 19F

08/29 00:46, , 20F
懶人包左一那組滿熟呢(′・ω・‵)?
08/29 00:46, 20F
54+64+34那一組嗎(′・ω・‵)? 第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00% 第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,75.48%,24.52% 第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.14%,77.84%,21.02% 第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.29%,55.68%,44.03% 第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.74%,58.11%,41.16% 本隊Q3制空:456,228,102,51 本隊平均制空:365,183,81,41

08/29 00:47, , 21F
先送兩波喪失,這個我不行
08/29 00:47, 21F

08/29 01:19, , 22F
感謝 沒想到比想像中糟耶 100%均 75%劣 55%劣
08/29 01:19, 22F

08/29 01:20, , 23F
提一下,大艇的熟練也有制空
08/29 01:20, 23F

08/29 01:21, , 24F
除了戰鬥機以外大家都是3ω
08/29 01:21, 24F
那3點影響不大 這次真要說應該是有第四架對空3的陸攻影響最顯著 第五波空喪率可以從1/12(組合B)降到1/25(托馬滿熟組) (′・ω・‵) ※ 編輯: yichenglee (61.231.49.189), 08/29/2017 02:07:46

08/29 09:28, , 25F
(′・ω・‵) 滿熟
08/29 09:28, 25F
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