[問題] 托福Writing格式是否適用雅思

看板IELTS作者 (熱血青年)時間8年前 (2015/12/09 23:54), 編輯推噓3(3030)
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如題 前陣子準備了托福(76分) 但因為一些考量決定轉戰雅思 遇到一個比較困擾的問題是寫作 換了一種寫法整個怪怪的無所適從 目前是以OG準備 看了解答的範文覺得很難寫出這樣的文章 而且好像寫得很隨興 想提什麼就提什麼..... 因為托福寫作主要分五段 第一段破題 第二三四段皆為支持段 主要都會提出論點後舉例子說明 第五段為結論段(之前托福有人特別警告我一句不成段,但看Simon的作文似乎都只有一句) 想請問的是雅思是否比較需要寫深並以各種角度寫(四段) 而非是舉三個論點來寫 還是說其實用托福的架構(五段)寫也沒問題 另外 雅思有些題目會問到個人意見 有些不會 這是不是表示問個人意見的時候需要像托福有明確的選邊站呢 (同意/不同意或是選擇一個選項) 以下附上剛剛寫的OG第一篇 希望大家可以給我一些建議 下周六要考了.... 題目 Some people work for the same organization all their working life. Others think that it is better to work for different organization. Discuss both these views and give your own opinion. Most people need to get a job after graduation from school. They often possess different perspectives on whether they should stick on a job for whole life. I would personally believe that work for more than only one organization is the better choice. To explain, I will give two reasons of it. One point which I consider to be absolutely vital is that it would be boring if one only has a kind of job experience. Take my father for an example, he is a policeman since he graduated from school for almost 40 years. Because the only thing he needs to do is routine work, he is extremely used to living with same schedule every day. To be specific, as an employee in the government in the government, he arrives at his office on eight o’clock and does many typing tasks that has not changed from the beginning to now. For the reason that my father has single experience about job, he does same things and has same skills for his whole working life. For most people, the kind of days is too stable and lack of variety. Nonetheless, getting rich experience of many companies would be more attractive and interesting for a person. My uncle is the most representative example for the condition. He has worked for five organization including small one and big one. He always can share many kinds of the practical events he used to face. Moreover, every time when he changes to another company, he moves to different place and enjoy his new life. Therefore, this kind of experience can definitely enrich one’s life. In sum, although there may be some dissenting viewpoints, I personally think have more experience in jobs would be a better choice. 謝謝大家 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.34.55.76 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/IELTS/M.1449676447.A.BC8.html

12/10 00:16, , 1F
這格式不適合套用在雅思
12/10 00:16, 1F

12/10 00:20, , 2F
雅思寫作並非想寫什麼就寫什麼 文章脈絡其實雖簡單卻扼要
12/10 00:20, 2F

12/10 00:27, , 3F
總之論述要能支撐你的論點 舉例舉通例 避免舉個案
12/10 00:27, 3F

12/10 00:34, , 4F
舉爸爸叔叔當例子似乎說服力差了點
12/10 00:34, 4F

12/10 00:40, , 5F
幾段不是重點 寫6段也可以 時間很趕找個家教惡補一下吧...
12/10 00:40, 5F

12/10 00:45, , 6F
既然都要轉考雅思了 相信Simon就對了 考官不會騙你
12/10 00:45, 6F

12/10 02:57, , 7F
問題在文法 跟 段落與句子結構 托福結構在雅思也可用
12/10 02:57, 7F

12/10 02:58, , 8F
但是 五段選邊站 提出三個論點比較明確 四段則是提出
12/10 02:58, 8F

12/10 02:58, , 9F
正反意見 寫深 提出具體例子 此外 托福跟雅思不同的是
12/10 02:58, 9F

12/10 02:59, , 10F
模板的用語及用字 若太中式英文會被扣比較多分 個人覺
12/10 02:59, 10F

12/10 03:00, , 11F
得家人例子可以 但是內文的例子寫得太抽象 不夠具體
12/10 03:00, 11F

12/10 03:01, , 12F
所以讓人覺得沒有說服力 相對於托福 雅思作文可能需要
12/10 03:01, 12F

12/10 03:01, , 13F
體的用字及描述比較好拿分 托福則是盡量與主軸切題
12/10 03:01, 13F

12/10 10:40, , 14F
題目都說discuss both views 了, 一定要寫些反面的點
12/10 10:40, 14F

12/10 11:14, , 15F
請問是兩個選項都要正反面意見嗎
12/10 11:14, 15F

12/10 11:20, , 16F
看題目要求,大作文通常有四種題型,可以搜尋一下前面
12/10 11:20, 16F

12/10 11:20, , 17F
的文,也有分析該不該寫一面倒or反面的優缺點
12/10 11:20, 17F

12/10 11:44, , 18F
這題目不一定要寫反面論述 根據題幹的兩個觀點給正面論述
12/10 11:44, 18F

12/10 11:45, , 19F
然後再選邊站 簡單又保險
12/10 11:45, 19F

12/10 12:10, , 20F
那像我這樣直接給出自己的感覺 雖然並非兩邊都正面
12/10 12:10, 20F

12/10 12:11, , 21F
最後選擇一個較認同的 會不會太不客觀 這樣是好的嗎
12/10 12:11, 21F

12/10 13:14, , 22F
應該說主體段的論述不夠突出 說服力不夠 首段和結論還可以
12/10 13:14, 22F

12/10 13:16, , 23F
intro簡單寫就是paraphrasing+state your opinion就夠了
12/10 13:16, 23F

12/10 13:26, , 24F
Body1 舉例著墨太多容易失焦 只有主題句和最後轉折是亮點
12/10 13:26, 24F

12/10 13:29, , 25F
Body2 一樣的問題 而且頭(Body1)重腳(Body2)輕
12/10 13:29, 25F

12/10 13:31, , 26F
Body2 是你認同的觀點 應該要更主觀 這樣才有說服力
12/10 13:31, 26F

12/10 13:33, , 27F
conclusion 好好 沒太大的問題
12/10 13:33, 27F

12/10 13:34, , 28F
sorry, 我只得是兩邊論點都要寫,不是指兩邊的正反面
12/10 13:34, 28F

12/10 13:35, , 29F
都要寫,口誤@@
12/10 13:35, 29F

12/10 13:36, , 30F
整體而言 Coherence & Cohesion 要再加強
12/10 13:36, 30F

12/10 13:38, , 31F
建議你可以參考一下writing的評分要項 修正寫作弱點
12/10 13:38, 31F

12/10 13:42, , 32F
另外 每個主體段都只有一個main idea太過薄弱 2~3個比較適
12/10 13:42, 32F

12/10 15:17, , 33F
真的非常感謝U大S大跟C大的指點 真的獲益良多
12/10 15:17, 33F
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