[編譯] 經濟學人 中國複製西藏模式鎮壓新疆

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https://tinyurl.com/qmksb47 In Xinjiang, China applies repressive lessons learned in Tibet 中國複製西藏模式鎮壓新疆 In Xinjiang detained “trainees” have all “graduated”. But it is not clear where they are 新疆再教育營的“學員們”都“畢業”了,但不知去向。 China usually marks the un’s human-rights day on December 10th with angry rebuttals of foreign criticism rather than announcements of improvements in its record. So it was perhaps coincidental that an official this week updated the world on the most egregious of China’s current abuses: the incarceration of hundreds of thousands of Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities in the vast western region of Xinjiang. Shohrat Zakir, chairman of the regional government, told a press conference in Beijing that the “trainees” in detention had all “graduated”. Since then, he said, they “have achieved stable employment, improved their quality of life and have been living a happy life.” 中國造慣例地在每年12月10號國際人權日這天都會嚴斥西方世界對自己人權議題的批評, 而非宣示要改善自己的人權紀錄。碰巧的是,在本週有中國官員透露關於這可怕暴行的最 新進度;現任新疆自治區主席Shohrat Zakir在北京的一場記者會宣布:那些成千上萬被關 起來的維吾爾族和其他穆斯林少數族群「學員」都已經「畢業」了。 他說再教育營讓他們有穩定的就業、改善他們的生活、還從此過著幸福快樂的日子呢。 Mr Zakir said foreign reports that trainees numbered 1m-2m were groundless, but did not give his own total. China describes what outsiders see as vast prison camps (one is pictured, near the city of Hotan) as “vocational training” centres, teaching Chinese, occupational skills and “ deradicalisation”. The camps were set up in response to sporadic outbreaks of Islamist and anti-Chinese violence. The mass detentions amount to a preventive internal-security operation of almost unimaginable—and unmeasurable—proportions. Mr Zakir表示外國報導「學員」有一兩百萬人是無根據的,但他沒說明究竟有多少人。中 國政府將外界視為大型集中營(有一座位於和田市的還被拍到)地方稱為「職業訓練所」, 用來教導中國人專職技術以及「去除極端思想」;「再教育營」是設計來對付那些不時發 生的伊斯蘭及反中國的暴動。 Divided families fear to speak about disappeared members. A Uighur activist based in Canada says his grandfather died this year soon after being freed from one of the camps, where his diabetes and heart condition had been untreated. The activist is loth to contact his family. A phone call to his bereaved grandmother prompted a warning text to her from the authorities. 家庭被拆散的維族人害怕談論那些消失的人。一名目前身在加拿大的異議維族人透漏他的 祖父今年從集中營釋放後不久就往生,因為他的糖尿病跟心臟病並無得到治療。 之前他打了一通電話給他失去至親的祖母,結果祖母後來收到當局的警告訊息,這讓他現 在都不敢聯繫他的家人。 So the fate of the detainees remains unclear. Mr Zakir did not say they had been freed. The activist thinks a mass release “pretty unlikely”. But some observers think that China might be moving to a more subtle form of repression: in the community. They point to Tibet, a neighbouring region with its own history of protest, where a resentful local population has been subdued without mass incarceration (though plenty of malcontents remain locked up). The Communist Party chief in Xinjiang, Chen Quanguo, served in the same post in Tibet. His skills in containing unrest have been bolstered by extensive deployment of surveillance technology. Mr Zakir並沒有說明維族人是否被釋放,所以那些被關的維族人的命運仍不明朗。 該名異議人士認為大規模的釋放「不太可能的」。而一些觀察者認為中國可能改用更隱晦 的模式來壓制維族人:深入社區。觀察家們提到新疆的鄰居:西藏,西藏人沒有透過大規模 關押就“噤聲”(雖然仍有不少的異議人士被關起來)。現任的新疆黨委書記陳全國,過去 也擔任西藏黨委書記一職。他對付人民示威的手段已藉由監視科技而無所不在。 For Tibetans, December 10th did mark an important and poignant anniversary: 30 years to the day since their exiled spiritual leader, the 14th Dalai Lama, was in Oslo to receive the Nobel peace prize. Tibetans enjoy no more freedom than they did then. But few mass protests have been reported since an outbreak of anti-Chinese violence in Lhasa and protests across the Tibetan plateau in 2008. 對西藏人來說,12月10日也是一個重要且悲傷的日子,30年前,藏人的精神領袖達賴喇嘛 14世在挪威奧斯陸受頒諾貝爾和平獎。從那時起藏人的自由被打壓得更嚴重,且自2008年 在拉薩發生的抗議事件後,整個西藏都不時傳出抗議活動。 The “Tibet model” of repression relies on four tactics. The first is to deflect any international pressure. In Tibet’s case this has meant curtailing the influence of the Dalai Lama. At 84, he is not the tireless globe-trotter he once was. And China is itself tireless in browbeating (and even imposing sanctions on) any country whose leaders dare to meet him. 「西藏式」的鎮壓主要靠四種手段。 首先:抵制任何國際聲援 以西藏情形而言,就是指去削弱達賴喇嘛的國際影響力,現年已經84歲的他,已無法如年 輕時的他遊走世界各地為藏人發聲,且中國無所不用其極地恫嚇任何膽敢跟達賴見面的國 家。 Second is to limit foreign contact. Tibet remains cut off. Individual foreign tourists—never mind journalists or human-rights investigators—are banned, and the stream of exiles escaping to India has been cut to a trickle. Third is to swamp the territory’s native majority by promoting economic development that encourages migration from elsewhere in China. Thanks to tourism and investment in infrastructure, Tibet’s economy last year grew by 9%, faster than all but one Chinese province. The growth brings both jobs and an influx of Han Chinese, whose presence sparked the resentment that exploded in 2008. 第二:就是去限制西藏與外界的聯繫 西藏現在可以說是被隔絕的,獨立的外國旅客,無論是記者或人權團體都被禁止進入,試 圖逃亡去印度的路線也被堵塞。 第三,中國試圖利用經濟誘因使中國其他地區的漢人進入西藏來沖淡藏人人口。 由於觀光業與政府投資,西藏去年經濟成長了9%,幾乎快過中國所有其他城市。這同時提 升了就業率以及漢民族的湧入,而這就是造成2008年藏人不滿的主因。 Last, blanket the region with security mechanisms and personnel. This includes stationing “work teams” in villages and sensitive spots such as monasteries, and dividing cities into “grids” in which residents have to spy on each other. 最後,用國家機器將整個藏區圍起來,包含組成所謂的「工作小組」派駐到所有村莊和一 些例如寺廟等的敏感地帶,再將城市分成數個「安全網」讓藏民監督彼此。 Tibet shows how effective and sustainable mass repression can be. But China still has to weather the eventual passing and reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, a powerful and moderate restraining figure. Where the Tibet model fails is in offering a future of reconciliation and harmony. ■ 西藏經驗告訴我們中國的鎮壓行動能有多可怕,且告訴我們西藏模式是無助於族群和諧的 ;當影響力巨大的溫和內斂的達賴喇嘛圓寂及轉世時,中國仍須面對潛在的西藏危機。 This article appeared in the China section of the print edition under the headline"In Xinjiang, China applies repressive lessons learned in Tibet" -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 218.173.142.118 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/IA/M.1576506306.A.2FA.html

12/17 07:21, 4年前 , 1F
1. 翻譯有誤:漢人進入"新疆"來沖淡"藏人"人口?
12/17 07:21, 1F
已經更正 謝謝你

12/17 07:24, 4年前 , 2F
2. 原文有邏輯問題,2008年藏人不滿的主因來自2018年的成長?
12/17 07:24, 2F

12/17 07:30, 4年前 , 3F
3. 如果西方媒體認為中國隱瞞新疆西藏的真實情形,應想辦法
12/17 07:30, 3F

12/17 07:31, 4年前 , 4F
親自調查數據,不要像學生交報告一樣趕在期限前瞎湊硬寫。
12/17 07:31, 4F

12/17 08:13, 4年前 , 5F
畢業了,但不知去向?
12/17 08:13, 5F

12/17 08:13, 4年前 , 6F
所以我要說,要屠殺就屠殺,要搞洗腦就洗腦。
12/17 08:13, 6F

12/17 08:14, 4年前 , 7F
花大錢關起來洗腦,然後再讓他們消失?那幹嘛不一開始
12/17 08:14, 7F

12/17 08:14, 4年前 , 8F
就讓這些人消失?
12/17 08:14, 8F

12/17 08:16, 4年前 , 9F
如果不是共產黨腦殘,那就是關押數百萬人的大規模教育
12/17 08:16, 9F

12/17 08:17, 4年前 , 10F
不存在。當然我很希望是前者XD。
12/17 08:17, 10F

12/17 08:25, 4年前 , 11F
眼睛有問題,文章沒提到2018的經濟,這麼怕人談論西藏嗎
12/17 08:25, 11F

12/17 08:25, 4年前 , 12F
12/17 08:25, 12F

12/17 08:49, 4年前 , 13F
樓上..."last year" 這文章發文日期是2019,所以...
12/17 08:49, 13F

12/17 09:35, 4年前 , 14F
XDDDDD
12/17 09:35, 14F

12/17 10:26, 4年前 , 15F
不知去向也有可能是記者追蹤不到 不一定是死了
12/17 10:26, 15F
※ 編輯: ejrq5785 (218.173.142.118 臺灣), 12/17/2019 10:36:34

12/17 10:50, 4年前 , 16F
關起來洗腦後屠殺才能增加就業機會呀,你不知道維穩養活
12/17 10:50, 16F

12/17 10:50, 4年前 , 17F
很多人嗎?
12/17 10:50, 17F

12/17 11:08, 4年前 , 18F
維穩花掉的是更多的錢,養更少的人,一點都不划算
12/17 11:08, 18F

12/17 11:11, 4年前 , 19F
點贊譯者更正。另外經濟成長9%那邊也應是西藏,不是新疆。
12/17 11:11, 19F
※ 編輯: ejrq5785 (218.173.142.118 臺灣), 12/17/2019 11:15:43

12/17 14:00, 4年前 , 20F
2018年媒體根本很少再討論西藏新彊,是今年美對華政策改
12/17 14:00, 20F

12/17 14:00, 4年前 , 21F
變,才引起西方轉變,才有人再追查西藏的事情,為什麼要
12/17 14:00, 21F

12/17 14:00, 4年前 , 22F
關押豢養西藏新彊人,器官供應鍊,而且是提供給阿拉伯國
12/17 14:00, 22F

12/17 14:00, 4年前 , 23F
家的貴族,還可以賺錢,又可做人體實驗
12/17 14:00, 23F

12/17 17:12, 4年前 , 24F
應該這樣說 中共壓制西藏的方法就是用漢人去洗人口
12/17 17:12, 24F

12/17 17:13, 4年前 , 25F
並且用觀光跟投資來帶動西藏的經濟來喜文化阿!
12/17 17:13, 25F

12/17 19:20, 4年前 , 26F
照一些異議人仕的說法,這是非常不划算。
12/17 19:20, 26F

12/17 19:20, 4年前 , 27F
我相信有再教育營,但頂多關個幾千或幾萬人。
12/17 19:20, 27F

12/17 19:21, 4年前 , 28F
關押幾十萬人甚至上百萬人,你要多大的地,多少人去做
12/17 19:21, 28F

12/17 19:21, 4年前 , 29F
獄政管理,多少錢啊?
12/17 19:21, 29F

12/17 19:22, 4年前 , 30F
然後很明顯的,再教育結果很差,不然怎麼一堆放出去的
12/17 19:22, 30F

12/17 19:23, 4年前 , 31F
人在爆炸,根本花大錢拉仇恨值。共產黨真的關個幾十幾
12/17 19:23, 31F

12/17 19:24, 4年前 , 32F
百萬人,那想必中國經濟好得很,錢多到沒處花。
12/17 19:24, 32F

12/17 19:25, 4年前 , 33F
我真的真的希望共產黨有腦殘到這種地步XD
12/17 19:25, 33F
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