[轉錄][新聞] ESPN:太陽是否搶劫了?

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板] 作者: IamBeasley (Beasley) 看板: NBA 標題: [新聞] ESPN:太陽是否搶劫了? 時間: Thu Dec 11 22:50:20 2008 Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr has faced a lot of questions during his short stewardship of the Suns, but the only question to ask after Wednesday's trade with Charlotte is whether he was wearing a ski mask. The deal for Jason Richardson, Jared Dudley and a 2010 second-round pick cost him only Raja Bell, Boris Diaw and Sean Singletary, and it immediately restores the Suns' flagging hopes of breaking back into the West's upper crust. For that, he can thank Bobcats coach Larry Brown. This is the danger when you hire Larry -- that he'll almost immediately want to trade everyone on his roster and that the people in charge won't have enough spine or clout to wave off his requests. Clearly, the Bobcats don't qualify on the latter point. This has all the markings of a Larry deal, as he's trading a proven scorer for a veteran role player he has coached before (Bell). Besides, nobody finds it plausible that Michael Jordan slipped away from the golf course long enough to broker a five-player trade -- clearly his trigger-happy coach was the one providing the impetus. 太陽總管Steve Kerr上任沒多就遇到不少問題,週三這筆與山貓的交易後,現在 只有一個問題:"他們有搶劫山貓嗎?" 太陽得到了Richardson,Dudley和2010年第二輪選秀權,但他們只送出Bell,Diaw和 Singletary,這可能會讓太陽馬上變回西區強權. 對於這些,太陽隊可以好好感謝山貓教頭Larry Brown,因為老布朗說過他可以 交易陣中的任何一名球員,而山貓高層也幾乎不反駁他的提議. 很明顯的,這次山貓也同樣沒有拒絕老布朗的提案,這可能要算在他身上一筆, 用已經證明能飆分的好手換來他以前執教過的球員(Bell).這筆五人交易應該沒有人 會聯想到MJ,因為他現在正忙著在果嶺上玩耍,顯而易見的這筆交易完全是老布朗一手 促成的. So this time, it's Charlotte fans asking the questions. For starters, why did the team include Dudley? The trade worked without him, and he's an inexpensive quality performer because he's still on his rookie contract. A bigger question, however, is this one: How are the Bobcats going to score? They were 26th in the NBA in offensive efficiency, and were 30th before Richardson came back from an early-season injury. To trade him for two role players essentially damns Charlotte to finish at or near the bottom of the league in offense -- it's inconceivable that the team could replace his 21.3 points per 40 minutes with the likes of Bell and Diaw. Richardson also is a great fit in Phoenix, especially if the Suns revert to playing more up-tempo. He's a high-flying finisher in transition, but he also led the NBA in 3-pointers made last season and is hitting 45.6 percent on 3s this season. With post threats Amare Stoudemire and Shaquille O'Neal to set him up, one shudders to think how many triples he can rain in with the Suns. 因此這一次輪到山貓球迷來發問了。首先要問的是,為什麼球隊要把Dudley 交易掉?即使是不加上他,交易也不會因此失敗,而且他還是領新秀的合約,所以他是 一個物超所值的球員。 儘管如此,這裡還有一個更大的疑問就是:山貓接下來如何得分?他們的進攻 效率在NBA聯盟已經是排在第26名,甚至在賽季初期理Richardson因傷還未歸隊之前, 他們曾經排在聯盟倒數第一名. 如今把他交易出去而換來了兩個角色球員,一定會讓山 貓原本就很糟糕的進攻再次成為聯盟最差.很難想像球隊會用一個平均出場40分鐘能得 21.3分的球員來換Bell 和 Diaw. 很適合太陽的球風,特別是太陽打算重新玩小球的時候。他非常善於在進攻轉換 中得分,同時他上個球季還在NBA的三分排行榜相當出色,本賽季他的三分球命中率高達 45.6%.太陽的內線有Stoudemire和大歐,他們的牽制力足以讓Richardson完全爆發,很難 想像他會在太陽如何地狂噴三分了. Dudley is 23 but plays much older -- he's a subpar athlete but a smart, strong combo forward with a knack for rebounding and scoring around the basket. The second-year forward figures to fill Diaw's role as a reserve forward, though it's possible he could supplant Matt Barnes at small forward if he plays well. From Charlotte's end, Diaw is the key to the deal. Theoretically, he solves the team's glaring hole at power forward, though in practice he's hardly bigger than Dudley. Although he's an undersized 4, he's capable of defending the position and can take advantage of slower bigs at the other end with his ballhandling skill. However, Diaw is a mediocre shooter and a reluctant scorer; in this sense, he strongly resembles another former Brown favorite, Derrick McKey. Bell had been visibly declining over the past two seasons and is probably better suited to a bench role at this point in his career. That might happen if the Bobcats opt to use D.J. Augustin and Raymond Felton together in the backcourt. Brown will value Bell's feistiness, but his offensive output and lateral movement aren't what they once were. Charlotte gets one other benefit -- a $5.4 million cap savings in the key summer of 2010, thanks to Bell's expiring contract. If the Bobcats don't re-sign Felton, May or Adam Morrison, they could be about $12 million under a projected cap of $60 million (the exact amount would depend on the salary slot for next year's draft pick); although it's highly unlikely that a LeBron James or Chris Bosh would choose the Queen City, several lesser stars also will be on the market that summer. Dudley僅僅23歲,但他打球相當成熟,雖然運動能力不突出,可是他打得相當聰明 ,他在籃下能得分且有籃板能力,是個不錯的搖擺人.如果他表現不錯的話,他足以彌補 Diaw離開的空缺,雖然他也許還是只能當Barnes的替補. 從山貓的角度來看,Diaw是這筆交易的關鍵。理論上來說,他彌補了球隊大前鋒 位置上的漏洞,然而事實上他並沒有比Dudley高多少。儘管他是個小號的大前鋒, 但是他有能力防守這個位置上的球員,並且在進攻時,他能充分利用自己成熟的持球 技巧來攻擊對方速度慢的長人。儘管如此,Diaw只算是一個平凡的射手,一個很勉強 的得分手;從這個角度上來看,他真的很像以前布朗的最愛:Derrick McKey。 Bell在過去的兩個賽季裡明顯衰退,也許在他職業生涯的這個階段,更加適合 他的位置是替補。如果山貓排除D.J. Augustin 和Raymond Felton的後場組合的話, 那麼上面所說的就會成為事實.老布朗肯定會物盡其用,充分考慮Bell的能力,但是他在 進攻端的貢獻以及橫向移動方面已經大不如前了。 山貓還會有一個其他的好處.在2010年的夏天將會得到540萬的薪資空間,因為 Bell的合約2010年剛好到期。如果山貓那時也不和Felton,May或 Morrison續約的話, 他們可以低於薪資門檻6000萬,而有著約1200萬的空間,雖然James 和 Bosh不太可能來 山貓,但是也有其他不錯的自由球員. But in the short term, Kerr is the one who saves his employers a few ducats with this deal. The new players make nearly $1 million less than the old ones in 2008-09, and that amount doubles because the Suns are over the luxury-tax line. Although a portion of that advantage will go away once Phoenix signs another player to meet league roster requirements, the team still comes out ahead on the deal. Perhaps the best thing about this deal is that it's a turning point away from the Suns' recent fascination with being a bad imitation of the Spurs. Instead, it marks a move back toward the running, gunning style that had them near the top in the first place. Bell and Diaw were arguably Phoenix's two best defenders (though that's a backhanded compliment these days), and Richardson's explosiveness has never translated terribly well into the quick, short steps needed for effective D. In the wake of his trade, look for the Suns to re-establish themselves as an elite offensive team and try to overwhelm teams with their scoring prowess. With four big-time offensive players in the starting lineup and a fifth potent scorer (Leandro Barbosa) coming off the bench, it doesn't seem implausible that they could lead the league in offensive efficiency in the final three-quarters of the season. If so, those "What's wrong with Phoenix?" questions might quickly become a distant memory. 短期來看,Kerr經這筆交易替太陽省下不少錢,之前08-09賽季他們省了100多萬, 可是應該要加倍去算,因為他們超過豪華稅門檻,假使他們為了讓陣中球員達到一定 數目而去簽其他人的話,這麼省錢的目的便不會這麼明顯,但是對他們還是有益的. 太陽來說,最好的莫過於脫離現在的苦境,他們曾經想學馬刺的球風,但是到頭 來還是要走他們的不歸路:跑轟.Bell和Diaw是太陽陣中不用爭議的防守高手,雖然他們最 近常被開汽水,而Richardson從未在防守上被證明過. 這筆交易之後,我們期待著太陽能在次重回聯盟中最會得分的球隊,用得分讓對 手崩潰,太陽的先發有4位是一流的攻擊好手,而第5位Barbosa也會從板凳上爆發,不難想 像他們會在剩餘的3/4球季在得分排行榜排第一. 假如一切真如所說,那麼"What's wrong with Phoenix?" 這個疑問 將會永遠成為人們心中的回憶. -- █◣◢█ ███◣ MIAMI HEAT ◥█ ψBrandonRoy █◣ █◣ █◥◤█ █◣ █◣ █◣ █ ◢█◣ ◢◤ █ █ ◢◤ ◥◣ ◤◢ █◢◥█ █ █◤◢ ◥█ ◥◣ █◤ ◥◤ █ ◥█◤ ▅ █ ███◤ ◥█◤ ██ ◥█◤ █◤ █◤ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.136.188.22 ※ 編輯: IamBeasley 來自: 220.136.188.22 (12/11 22:56)

12/11 22:52,
太陽真的賺嗎!!? 看官們...........咱們往下看.........
12/11 22:52

12/11 22:52,
有點搞不懂了 是搶劫的話 板上怎罵太陽總管罵得跟什麼一樣
12/11 22:52

12/11 22:52,
真有趣 人家在講太陽是否搶劫。
12/11 22:52

12/11 22:53,
科科:我又想打跑轟了..打我啊笨蛋..
12/11 22:53

12/11 22:53,
太陽現在最大的問題應該是Nash下場後半場誰組織吧?Hill嗎?
12/11 22:53

12/11 22:54,
科科難得做出不錯的交易,不必理不懂得人
12/11 22:54

12/11 22:54,
可能是因為只要科科作了什麼交易就會想先開罵吧!!
12/11 22:54

12/11 22:55,
因為大家都希望太陽打小球 問題是教練不知道是不是這麼想...
12/11 22:55

12/11 22:55,
看到科科交易 都要先批評一下才會顯示出鄉民的專業
12/11 22:55

12/11 22:55,
不罵科科非好漢 (你落伍了嗎
12/11 22:55
※ 編輯: IamBeasley 來自: 220.136.188.22 (12/11 23:11)

12/11 22:57,
Kerr今天是省錢卻很不小心的補強到了…
12/11 22:57

12/11 22:58,
有種兩隊都有賺到的感覺...
12/11 22:58

12/11 22:58,
JJ有笑點
12/11 22:58

12/11 22:58,
你今天罵Kerr?科科~
12/11 22:58

12/11 22:59,
連前太陽球員JJ都說話了!!!
12/11 22:59

12/11 23:03,
情感因素啦
12/11 23:03

12/11 23:06,
如果太陽想重打小球應該不會把DIAW送走吧!!
12/11 23:06

12/11 23:07,
我只想說Diaw Bell沒有你想的這麼差
12/11 23:07

12/11 23:08,
不過J-RICH的到來確實彌補了太陽進攻上的盲點
12/11 23:08

12/11 23:08,
我比較推Diaw...因為我對金臂勾事件還事耿耿於懷...
12/11 23:08

12/11 23:08,
從這點來看這個交易不是全無道理
12/11 23:08

12/11 23:09,
sorry...我剛po了才發現這是篇新聞,原本是想對原po說
12/11 23:09

12/11 23:09,
情感因素而已
12/11 23:09

12/11 23:09,
德瑞克兄,你這句話真該拿去籃球邦邦主聚會時講~XD
12/11 23:09

12/11 23:10,
太陽賺超大吧 沒什麼好懷疑的
12/11 23:10

12/11 23:10,
怎麼還有人跳針在用薪資結構法克科科爾交易KT跟大歐啊?
12/11 23:10

12/11 23:11,
把大歐找來 再換波特當教練 就知道太陽放棄小球這條路了
12/11 23:11

12/11 23:11,
現在又說要打小球 請問現任教練有這能耐嗎?
12/11 23:11

12/11 23:12,
用2K9模擬一下真的滿強的
12/11 23:12

12/11 23:12,
要打小球還不簡單,小球陣一擺,Nash自由發揮就是了
12/11 23:12

12/11 23:12,
KT跟大歐的事情,薪資結構的觀點那要看是拼當下或看未來
12/11 23:12

12/11 23:13,
雖然不一定是這樣打,但沒有那麼困難。
12/11 23:13

12/11 23:14,
看看今天的比賽,難道看不出小球風其實內建在這群人裡面
12/11 23:14

12/11 23:14,
這就是神奇的地方 還有人在大歐交易中不捨Marion
12/11 23:14

12/11 23:14,
就把Banks捧的好像潛力無限
12/11 23:14

12/11 23:15,
其實不捨大家都會,以為能釋懷太陽迷都很捨得嗎?
12/11 23:15

12/11 23:16,
能釋懷的太陽迷
12/11 23:16

12/11 23:16,
另外一件事情,尼克的表現證明了過去太陽球風,冷笑話
12/11 23:16

12/11 23:17,
其實佔了很大的一部分,說給Nash自己打沒有說得那麼容易
12/11 23:17

12/11 23:18,
說不定省錢不小心省到得冠軍
12/11 23:18

12/11 23:19,
在熱火可能連第三控衛都打不上的Banks,也是科爾清掉前任總
12/11 23:19

12/11 23:19,
台灣人比較喜歡看太陽以前的球風吧 消失了難免兩句幹譙
12/11 23:19

12/11 23:20,
管爛賬的一大功德 領五百萬打第三控衛,哪來這麼好賺的約
12/11 23:20

12/11 23:20,
看到Banks的爛約就搖頭 還有三年要走
12/11 23:20

12/11 23:21,
Richardson的三分真的很準~太陽賺到了
12/11 23:21

12/11 23:21,
還記得以前Banks被神話到什麼地步嗎? 呵呵......
12/11 23:21

12/11 23:22,
不過還是覺得要是能打出馬刺的戰術 太陽實力會比馬刺恐怖@@
12/11 23:22

12/11 23:23,
老話一句:打了才知道...話說AI到活塞時專家看好的也不一堆
12/11 23:23

12/11 23:24,
看到德瑞克大推的第一句話挺失望的
12/11 23:24

12/11 23:26,
不必理不懂的人 懂的人是怎樣可以說明一下?
12/11 23:26

12/11 23:28,
就清薪資方面太陽確實小賺 這應該比較小爭議 但整個交
12/11 23:28

12/11 23:28,
D'Antoni那套是個概念,屬於學過就難忘記的東西。
12/11 23:28

12/11 23:29,
易整體的優劣得失 不也包含球員被交易後的表現
12/11 23:29

12/11 23:30,
我X你X的科科
12/11 23:30

12/11 23:33,
要是所謂的專家們眼鏡碎一地 太陽最後未必是贏家吧
12/11 23:33

12/11 23:36,
搶不搶看個人啦 屌爺到山貓打3、4號位 說不準也能有成效
12/11 23:36

12/11 23:40,
Amare:大歐不是來cover我 解放我的進攻能量嗎?
12/11 23:40

12/11 23:41,
教練不給打、總管不想打,光是PG想打跑轟有用嗎?還是
12/11 23:41

12/11 23:41,
Richardson完全爆發 數據應該很好看吧
12/11 23:41

12/11 23:42,
期待Nash為了打跑轟和高層槓上?
12/11 23:42
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12/12 02:07, , 1F
俗話說~從太陽出來的~都是高手= =+
12/12 02:07, 1F
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