[問卦] 為何台灣薪水跟墨西哥一樣低消失

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今天在PTT創世神的臉書看到富比士這篇文章 原來台灣跟墨西哥薪水一樣低 有人知道為什麼嗎 (附上原文和翻譯) https://goo.gl/DhKxWY https://goo.gl/99tMyN Why Taiwan's Wages Are As Low As Mexico's 為何台灣薪水跟墨西哥一樣低 Workers in Mexico earn an average $1,276 per month, the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development says. Not a lot maybe, but Mexico ranks as a developing country because of a relatively low GDP per capita. Poverty in the Latin American nation comes to about 46% of a 120 million population, too. You expect low wages in developing countries. When people don’t earn much, it’s hard to develop an economy. 經濟合作暨發展組織(OECD)說墨西哥勞工平均月薪1,267美元。也許沒有很多,但墨西 哥只是人均國內生產總值相對較低的開發中國家。拉丁美洲1.2億人也約有46%是窮人。低 薪在開發中國家是可以預期的。人民沒辦法賺更多錢就無法促進經濟。 But workers in Taiwan are earning about the same. They took home $1,288 per month last year after a 1.6% increase over 2016, according to government figures released in November. The International Monetary Fund and others call Taiwan an advanced economy. Yet Taiwan’s wages come in lower than its industrialized Asian peers, such as Singapore and South Korea. 但台灣勞工居然也是一樣低薪。11月台灣政府統計數字顯示,去年勞工平均月薪1,288美 元,只比2016年增加1.6%。國際貨幣基金組織(IMF)和其他組織說台灣是一個先進經濟 體。但台灣的薪水卻比新加坡和南韓這些亞洲工業化同儕還要低。 Lagging wages stem from Taiwan's struggles to prosper as an export manufacturing hub. Exporters increasingly face competition from peers making the same goods in bigger, cheaper and fast-growing China. The China threat is likely to challenge Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen's pledges to improve life for local workers . And China is just one reason for the lower wages. 原地踏步的薪資水準源自於台灣致力要成為出口製造中心。出口商逐漸面對來自中國規模 市場、物價便宜且快速發展的競爭。來自中國的威脅很可能挑戰台灣總統蔡英文改善本地 受薪階級生活的承諾。然而中國卻只是造成低薪問題的其中一項原因而已。 “With respect to only its Asian Tiger peers, Hong Kong, Singapore and South Korea, real wages in Taiwan have struggled to keep pace over the past decade, ” says Christopher Thomas, Taiwan economist with economic research with the forecasting firm FocusEconomics in Spain. Despite decent purchasing power, he says, “[Taiwan] has ranked a distant fourth in terms of real wage growth over the past 10 years.” "相對其他亞洲四小龍:香港、新加坡和南韓,台灣實際工資在過去數十年一直停滯不前 ,"西班牙專注經濟研究預測公司研究台灣經濟的學家克里斯多福湯瑪斯說。"儘管購買力 不錯,但以過去十年的實際工資成長來看,台灣已經是一個大幅落後的第四名,"他說。 Why wages stay low 為何薪水持續低落 Taiwan’s wages use to grow steadily along with gains in manufactured exports to the United States and China, Thomas says. But as China increasingly competed to ship the same goods, he says, Taiwanese firms “were forced” to cut costs, including pay. Earnings have gone "flat," he says, as Taiwanese firms lost business to China-based competitors. A world slip in exports in 2015 further scuttled any hope of higher wages. 湯瑪斯說台灣的工資過去曾經因為大量出口到美國和中國獲利而快速成長。但他說隨著中 國逐漸崛起,搶賣同樣商品,造成台灣企業被逼削價競爭,也包含砍薪水。他表示,台灣 企業逐漸把業務輸給中國的競爭對手,讓盈餘只能處在一般水準,加上2015年全球出口下 滑,進一步讓工資上漲希望幻滅。 Inflation in Taiwan has been patient with wages overall at about 1% in 2017, according to a DBS Bank estimate. But consumers in Taipei complain increasingly about rising prices. An announcement in late February that toilet paper prices would rise 10%-30% set off widespread panic buying that cleaned out supermarket shelves. Wage anxiety explains some of that shopping spree, which preceded any actual price hikes, says Liang Kuo-yuan, president of the Yuanta-Polaris Research Institute think tank in Taipei. 根據星展銀行估計,2017年台灣物價膨脹率跟工資一樣約為1%,但越來越多台北消費者抱 怨物價上漲。二月底宣布衛生紙預期漲價10%到30%,造成大規模恐慌性超市搶購潮。台北 元大寶華董事長梁國源說,民眾對物價漲得比薪水還快的焦慮可以解釋這波搶購熱潮。 Taiwanese workers also trail the other tigers in education that would motivate employers to pay them more in skilled jobs, such as in tech, says Allen Ng of American recruiting firm ManpowerGroup Experis' General Manager in Taipei. Today they're getting just a “common education," Ng says. 萬寶華台灣分公司專業人才事業總經理吳璧昇說,在培育更多高技術工作人才這方面,讓 雇主(例如科技業)願意付更多薪水,台灣一樣落居其他亞洲四小龍之後。他還說,台灣 勞工目前普遍被灌輸的只是通才教育。 Real wages in South Korea rose by approximately a third over the past decade, according to Thomas. South Korea is another advanced Asian economy reliant on exports. Wages there averaged about $32,000 per year in 2016, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development says. 根據湯瑪斯研究,南韓的實際工資在過去十年增加了約三分之一。南韓是亞洲另外一個依 賴出口貿易的先進經濟體。經濟合作暨發展組織(OECD)說2016年南韓的平均年薪約 32,000美元。 Campaign to improve work conditions in Taiwan 改善台灣工作條件的運動 The Taiwan president knows all about the wage crisis. Tsai has called youth employment one of her top priorities and in December she told her administration to end the “problem of low wages for young people.” Her government has made legal changes that allow more flexibility in workers’ paid time off. 台灣總統知道關於工資危機的大小事。蔡總統已經把青年就業擺在優先順位,去年十二月 她告訴行政部門要終結青年工資過低的問題。蔡英文政府已經修法讓勞工的工時更有彈性 。 Now Tsai faces a new challenge from China, which is a long-time political rival apart from any economic issues. On February 28, Beijing announced 31 measures that make it easier for Taiwanese to work, invest and study in China. Wages are 60% lower in China than in Taiwan for ordinary, entry-level jobs, according to ManpowerGroup. But even without the new measures, Taiwanese can earn 1.2 to 1.3 times more pay in China than at home for skilled, non-entry level jobs. A lot of Taiwanese will probably go to China over the next six months to check out the 31 measures and more will follow if the first wave gives "positive feedback," Ng says. 現在,蔡政府面臨來自長期政敵中國除了經濟議題外的新挑戰。今年228北京宣布了讓台 灣人更容易在中國工作、投資和讀書的31項措施。根據萬寶華,中國普通入門等級工作薪 水比台灣低60%。但即便沒有新措施,台灣人在中國做技術類非入門等級工作可以比在家 鄉工作多賺1.2到1.3倍薪水。很多台灣人可能將再接下來六個月到中國試試這31項措施, 而且如果第一批去的人反應良好,後續將會有更多人跟著去,吳璧昇說。 Officials hope a buoyant GDP will boost salaries this year. Job placement agencies in touch with the government say 50% to 70% of private employers in Taiwan have raised wages, cabinet spokesman Hsu Kuo-yung told a news conference Thursday without specifying a time frame. The government expects more wage growth in line with its 2.42% economic growth forecast for 2018, slightly more than last year, he says. 官員們希望今年國內生產總值上升可以拉抬薪資水準。與政府有接觸的職業介紹機構說台 灣50%到70%的私人企業老闆已經加薪,行政院發言人徐國勇在星期四的記者會說這段話時 沒有特別指明時間區間。他還說政府期望工資成長更多,才能符合2018年稍微比去年高的 2.42%預期經濟成長率。 More Taiwanese are reporting raises as well, government-funded Central News Agency reported in November. About 5.9 million Taiwanese said they were earning more than a benchmark NT$30,000 (US$1,027) per month in May 2017, up almost 3% over a year earlier, it says. 去年11月,政府出資的中央社報導更多台灣人被加薪,約五百九十萬台灣人說自己2017年 5月的月薪已達基準新台幣3萬元(1027美元),比去年還多3%。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 207.244.77.22 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1521534616.A.5F6.html

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台灣本來就是落後國家啊==
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喔說錯了 是中華民國才對...
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幹什麼?瞧不起墨西哥嗎?
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印尼首都跟台北也很像
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墨西哥有最新的七龍珠可以看
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就第三世界國家啊,中華民國不意外啦
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墨西哥比台灣先進,台灣拿太多錢
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一個國家強不強要看房價
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低薪資低物價 被彭總裁搞的
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完了 三普要把台灣用牆圍起來了
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這就跟台灣隊輸球中華隊贏球一樣
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因為是鬼島阿 操你媽的資進黨
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人家毒品行銷全球 猛啊
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難怪台灣毒品跟黑道也氾濫
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因為奴性教育跟政府亂搞
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愛棒球 原來是東方老莫
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一樣落後
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是中華民國薪水跟墨西哥一樣低吧
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資進黨專砍勞權啊,意外嗎
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台灣超跑越進口越多 台中港真的是奇蹟
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不用考慮物價嗎 有點常識好不好
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以某家高股價公司作業員新人為例 年薪660k 月薪卻只有26k
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你以為KMT執政多年毒害台灣和低薪22k政策的影響那麼容
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易消除?
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政府聯合財團一起坑殺奴役勞工啊 很意外嗎
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內需沒搞起來 台灣應該要適當通膨 讓物價漲三成
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不就產業升級失敗,整天只想costdown
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物價漲 生活不下去 整體薪資才會被強迫拉高
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中華民國的外食也只比印度貴一點
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資進黨:多加班就有加班費了
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原來16年跟17年相月薪有增加1.7%喔
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1.6%才對
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大家最喜歡台南跟高雄的模式,低薪加班最滿意了
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墨西哥平均薪資最好是有一千多鎂
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推文圖不適用 不調薪水 東西一樣漲價
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我們已經超越 現在是退化中國家
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590萬怎來的
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廢話 人家是種毒品大宗 台灣只是零售
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生產毛額不低,但是錢都進老闆口袋
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待會會有人拉PPP出來救援...
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墨西哥有石油和各種礦產可以一直吃老本,台灣技術被追上
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就完蛋了
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台灣物價還不夠高。。。笑死人了
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結果垃圾民進黨是資方打,操你媽的
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都是黑道治國
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搞不好墨西哥才覺得委屈勒
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老闆錢賺不夠 剝削勞工薪水 勞工沒錢買東西 諸如此類
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的惡性循環
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一切的消費 人才是主軸 什麼剝削勞工薪水或是改用大
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量機器生產 長期下來會變成M型薪資 然後一堆窮人拉低
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了薪資水平
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