Fw: [問題] 水素水是否全為詐騙還是裏面有真的?消失

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※ [本文轉錄自 ask 看板 #1P3S_mc8 ] 作者: newwords (raven) 看板: ask 標題: Fw: [問題] 水素水是否全為詐騙還是裏面有真的? 時間: Sat May 6 21:30:23 2017 ※ [本文轉錄自 Bunco 看板 #1P3S_cCi ] 作者: newwords (raven) 看板: Bunco 標題: [問題] 水素水是否全為詐騙還是裏面有真的? 時間: Sat May 6 21:30:10 2017 http://www.cnmd.info/blank-9 這是醫學期刊的部分翻譯 http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v13/n6/abs/nm1577.html nature內文 Acute oxidative stress induced by ischemia-reperfusion or inflammation causes serious damage to tissues, and persistent oxidative stress is accepted as one of the causes of many common diseases including cancer. We show here that hydrogen (H2) has potential as an antioxidant in preventive and therapeutic applications. We induced acute oxidative stress in cultured cells by three independent methods. H2 selectively reduced the hydroxyl radical, the most cytotoxic of reactive oxygen species (ROS), and effectively protected cells; however, H2 did not react with other ROS, which possess physiological roles. We used an acute rat model in which oxidative stress damage was induced in the brain by focal ischemia and reperfusion. The inhalation of H2 gas markedly suppressed brain injury by buffering the effects of oxidative stress. Thus H2 can be used as an effective antioxidant therapy; owing to its ability to rapidly diffuse across membranes, it can reach and react with cytotoxic ROS and thus protect against oxidative damage. 在思覺失調line群組內部不斷解釋親身體驗 甚至醫生都答應他喝這水治思覺失調(精神分裂) 然後說他不是在推銷 有分真的水素水還是全假的不理他 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 49.217.114.130 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Bunco/M.1494077414.A.32C.html ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: newwords (49.217.114.130), 05/06/2017 21:30:23 ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: newwords (49.217.114.130), 05/06/2017 21:33:16

05/06 21:34, , 1F
騙文組的
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五樓文組 被騙錢還被騙屁眼
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台灣國語隋速隋...
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有上nature
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反正內田真札喝我就跟著喝了嘻嘻
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你是說cellfood or celllife 嗎?
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※ 編輯: newwords (49.217.114.130), 05/06/2017 21:49:07

05/06 21:52, , 9F
Paper看起來是指做為手術 作為保健品沒提到阿
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05/06 22:01, , 10F
要加入會員才能喝捏
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細胞實驗與人體實驗差很大好嗎? 不然生技股早就是實賺
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好幾十個股本,就不用再靠本夢比了。
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https://goo.gl/S7AO5Q 台灣也有氫水的研究中心
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裡面引用很多美國FDA的研究論文,也有下載點
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http://imgur.com/a/qKcbf 爬了文,有說到治療效果
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氫水研究中心怎麼用blog呢..由醫生專家說了算
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幫你找了一篇,博士研究的新聞,不知道算不算專家?
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要通過不斷反覆的實驗在動物人體上實驗
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衛福部及美國那邊有科學家公佈為有效療法嗎
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本篇Nature有專業翻譯成中文嗎?
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還有本人不看台灣媒體要也是CNN BBC
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※ 編輯: newwords (49.217.114.130), 05/06/2017 23:59:21

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看看中國知乎的討論
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最新的研究論文,有興趣自己翻譯
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https://goo.gl/1nPMIV 這裡比較多的論文
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研究論文、醫學期刊都不相信,我也不知道有什麼是可信的
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日本衛生組織有宣稱他有療效嗎,衛福部 FDA呢?
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newwords:轉錄至看板 Chemistry 05/07 07:41

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你敢說他能治病(思覺失調)嗎,論文我也是看不懂咧
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https://goo.gl/xNuLoM 這邊很多有中文資料,自己參考~
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那衛福部允許宣稱療效了嗎...那只是他自己在講而已
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那麼好用 我才5/3回診怎麼沒聽醫生叫我喝
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第一線人員知道好用應該馬上跟病人講才對阿
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