[爆卦] FORTRAN贏過C++消失

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以下所列是科學界或市面上常見的第一原理和固態計算的軟體 ABINIT Free, GPL Fortran ACES Free, GPL Fortran,?C++ AMPAC Academic Unknown ADF Commercial Fortran Atomistix ToolKit(ATK) CommercialC++,?Python BigDFT Free, GPL Fortran CADPAC Academic Fortran CASINO?(QMC) Academic Fortran 95 CASTEP Academic (UK), commercial Fortran 95,?Fortran 2003 CFOUR Academic Fortran COLUMBUS Academic Fortran CONQUEST Academic Fortran 90 CP2K Free, GPL Fortran 95 CPMD Academic Fortran Crystal Academic (UK), commercial Fortran DACAPO Free,?GPL?1 Fortran Dalton Academic Fortran deMon2k Academic, commercial Fortran DFTB+ Academic, commercial Fortran 95 DFT++ Free,?GPL C++ DIRAC Academic Fortran 77,?Fortran 90,?C DMol3 Commercial Fortran 90 ELK Free,?GPL Fortran 95 Empire Academic, commercial Fortran EPW6 Free,?GPL Fortran ErgoSCF Free,?GPL C++ ERKALE Free,?GPL C++ EXCITING Free,?GPL Fortran 95 FLEUR Academic Fortran 95 FHI-aims Commercial Fortran FPLO13 Commercial Fortran 95,?C++,?Perl FreeON Free,?GPL Fortran 95 Firefly,?PC GAMESS Academic Fortran,?C,?Assembly GAMESS (UK) Academic (UK), commercial Fortran GAMESS (US) Academic Fortran Gaussian Commercial Fortran GPAW Free,?GPL Python,?C HiLAPW Unknown Unknown HORTON Free,?GPL Python,?C++ Jaguar Commercial Fortran,?C JDFTx Free,?GPL C++,?CUDA LOWDIN Academic Fortran 95, 03 MADNESS Free,?GPL C++ MISSTEP Free,?GPL C++ MOLCAS Academic, commercial[1] Fortran,?C,?C++,?Python,?Perl MolDS Free,?GPL C++ MOLPRO Commercial Fortran MONSTERGAUSS Free Fortran MOPAC Academic, commercial Fortran MPQC Free,?LGPL C++ NRLMOL Unknown Fortran NTChem Unknown Unknown NWChem Free,?ECL?v2 Fortran 77,?C Octopus Free,?GPL Fortran 95,?C,?OpenCL ONETEP Academic (UK), commercial Fortran OpenAtom Academic Charm++?(C++) OpenMX Free,?GPL C ORCA Academic C++ PLATO Academic Unknown PQS Commercial Unknown Priroda-06 Academic C PSI Free,?GPL C,?C++,?Python PUPIL Free,?GPL Fortran,?C PWmat Commercial Fortran PWscf6 Free,?GPL Fortran PyQuante Free,?BSD Python PySCF Free,?BSD Python Q-Chem Commercial Fortran,?C++ QMCPACK (QMC)Free,?U. Illinois Open Source C++,?CUDA Quantemol-N Academic, commercial Fortran QSite Unknown Unknown Quantum ESPRESSO Free,?GPL Fortran RMG Free,?GPL C,?C++ RSPt Academic Fortran,?C Scigress Commercial C++,?C,?Java,?Fortran Spartan Commercial Fortran, ?C,?C++ Siam Quantum Free,?GPL C SIESTA Free,?GPL Fortran TB-LMTO Academic Fortran TeraChem?8 Commercial C,?CUDA TURBOMOLE Commercial Fortran VASP Academic (AT), commercial Fortran WIEN2k Commercial Fortran,C Yambo Code Some parts GPL Fortran 總計 FORTRAN ( 77,90, 95,2003) 55 Python 7 C,C++ 34 FORTRAN 在量子化學和固態物理方面的軟體市占率大獲全勝 說屌打也行 真是讓人意外!! 以後學生會改學FORTRAN嗎?? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.115.30.19 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1479803926.A.2FF.html

11/22 16:39, , 1F
喔喔 跟我想的不一樣
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11/22 16:39, , 2F
本來就一堆人在學FORTRAN了
11/22 16:39, 2F
我那年代一堆人鄙視Fortran耶 你所謂一推人在學是啥麼時候的事情?

11/22 16:39, , 3F
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11/22 16:39, , 4F
學組語差不多
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11/22 16:39, , 5F
不是因為機台很貴所以只能用舊的軟體嗎?
11/22 16:39, 5F

11/22 16:40, , 6F
..... 表示那是老人領域
11/22 16:40, 6F

11/22 16:40, , 7F
少見多怪
11/22 16:40, 7F

11/22 16:40, , 8F
還好我本來就學FORTRAN
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11/22 16:40, , 9F
學生就不要出來鬧了
11/22 16:40, 9F

11/22 16:40, , 10F
115水準就這樣而已嗎
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11/22 16:40, , 11F
大驚小怪 科學計算社群本來就用Fortran最多
11/22 16:40, 11F

11/22 16:40, , 12F
這種記者式的標題...
11/22 16:40, 12F

11/22 16:41, , 13F
因為老闆給的資料也是for, 只好自己也學for
11/22 16:41, 13F
沒你想的那麼簡單吧? Fortran 也是進化不少 現在語法支援度和架構根本不輸C了 但速度還比C略快 ※ 編輯: peter308 (140.115.30.19), 11/22/2016 16:42:28

11/22 16:41, , 14F
就連最近召開在猶他州的SC(超級計算會議)都還有Fortran
11/22 16:41, 14F

11/22 16:41, , 15F
什麼似第一原理和固態計算?
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11/22 16:41, , 16F
相關的技術改良
11/22 16:41, 16F

11/22 16:41, , 17F
115水準...
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11/22 16:42, , 18F
這不是常識嗎?
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11/22 16:42, , 19F
吐槽這太累了 唉
11/22 16:42, 19F
我FORTRAN是超熟的拉XD 賺到!!

11/22 16:44, , 20F
就算是LAPACK, LINLAK等library也是FORTRAN
11/22 16:44, 20F
※ 編輯: peter308 (140.115.30.19), 11/22/2016 16:45:18

11/22 16:45, , 21F
滾。
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11/22 16:46, , 22F
速度比C快是有條件的 還有學校教學不是效能導向
11/22 16:46, 22F

11/22 16:48, , 23F
講這個真的好累 每次都要老調重談 不過學生還是看文章吧
11/22 16:48, 23F
你不能從你自己觀點看這件事情 可能有的新手對科學比較有興趣的看了我這篇文章後跑去改學Fortran啊 ※ 編輯: peter308 (140.115.30.19), 11/22/2016 16:50:43

11/22 16:49, , 24F
StackOverflow上有討論過速度議題 C_CPP版也有提到 建議
11/22 16:49, 24F

11/22 16:49, , 25F
看看 你應該比在座大多人有時間去仔細看原因
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11/22 16:50, , 26F
你怎不說 所有瀏覽器跑的runtime code都是js 大勝 C家族
11/22 16:50, 26F

11/22 16:51, , 27F
新手要學的話 找資料來八卦就該踢屁股了吧
11/22 16:51, 27F

11/22 16:52, , 28F
你還是找不到高薪工作,醒醒吧
11/22 16:52, 28F
※ 編輯: peter308 (140.115.30.19), 11/22/2016 16:54:28

11/22 16:53, , 29F
乖乖捧叫獸懶趴準時畢業乖乖去竹科當回收星人 懂?
11/22 16:53, 29F

11/22 16:58, , 30F
等等...彼得308?你還是學生??
11/22 16:58, 30F
當然不是啊 在工作惹 ※ 編輯: peter308 (140.115.30.19), 11/22/2016 16:59:26

11/22 17:01, , 31F
在工作還問這葛更該T屁屁八 別鬧惹
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11/22 17:17, , 32F
各種語言應用的領域本來就不同
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11/22 18:13, , 33F
fortran是始祖啊,當然
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