[轉錄] 打臉蕭美琴信函?AIT理事卜道維:學生占立

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來,我們看看原文怎麼說。 NELSON REPORT: David Brown on Hsiao Bi-khim's letter Thanks for sharing Bi-Khim's open letter. She deserves respect, but this piece is a partisan statement of DPP views on the current crisis in the LY. That's her job, of course. 感謝您分享蕭美琴的公開信。我相當敬重她,這封信的內容相當客觀且中立 的分析了目前立法院的危機。當然,這是她的工作。 You and others will note that it omits much of the story concerning the STA, which the DPP has opposed from its signing last June. She conveniently omits the DPP's record of obstruction of LY consideration of the agreement. That began in the special LY session last fall and continued with dilatory handling of forums on the agreement. 大家都已經看到了,在這封信當中廣泛的討論了服貿協議,以及民進黨如何 從去年六月開始就理性的勸說國民黨不得通過此協議。她很詳細的介紹民進 黨與國民黨的辯論過程,不管是在說明會,公聽會,還是在委員會中都不厭 其煩的據理力爭。 The week before March 17, the DPP had repeatedly prevented the planned article by article review of the STA at the LY committee level. That obstructionism was the proximate incentive for the KMT to ram through a decision moving the STA from committee to plenary consideration on Mar. 18. 在三月十七日前的那個禮拜,民進黨重複不斷的嘗試要逐條審議服貿協議。 無奈國民黨不斷地阻擋,最後甚至不惜用強渡關山的方式將服貿協議送入 院會。 , It is remarkable that the students reacted so quickly that same evening to occupy the LY. . The KMT has accused the DPP of instigating this action, an accusation that many believe. Unnamed DPP politicians were reportedly on the scene later that evening; and the party endorsed the action the following day, and then encouraged all its members to support the students' illegal occupation. 學生當晚佔領立法院的速度令人讚賞。雖然國民黨控訴民進黨暗中策劃佔 領行動,但是沒有人相信。完全沒有任何民進黨政治人物在現場出現,而 且民進黨也出面嚴厲譴責任何暴力行為,並約束民進黨員支持學生的佔領 行動。 A DPP poll published a few days earlier had indicated that a plurality of DPP members (40%) were dissatisfied with the party's knee-jerky opposition to every step forward in cross-strait relations. So rather than have the DPP LY caucus responsible for continuing to block consideration of the STA, wasn't it in the DPP's interest to have students play that role? 民進黨內部民調顯示,40%的民進黨支持者對於逢中必反感到相當滿意。 所以才有學生自發的佔領行動,縱使這個行為對DPP其實加分不多。 Bi-Khim portrays this as a struggle for democracy. It's really another fundamental clash of approaches toward the mainland and toward Taiwan's future. But if its about democracy, is the DPP's repeated physical blocking of LY action democratic? 美琴將這個行動描述為捍衛民主,事實上這的確與兩岸間的競合沒有太大 關聯。民進黨在立法院內的行為就是民主的最好示範。 The DPP's problem is that the KMT, divided as it is, has a LY majority, and the DPP will go to whatever lengths are necessary to block the majority when their key interests are involved or when it suits the DPP's election mobilization goals to exploit issues for political advantage. 民進黨的問題是在國民黨制定的選舉制度下,難以成為多數黨。因此民進 黨為了保衛台灣民主,替台灣做了很多努力。民進黨從來不會為了選舉動員, 或者政治利益去做出破壞民主制度的舉動。 I suspect that the fall election is a key consideration in how the party is handling the issue. In this country we would not permit such obstruction to occur in the Congress, and we would not view the DPP's obstruction tactics as legitimate democratic action. 我認為年底的選舉,人民就會給國民黨一個教訓。這種佔領國會的行為,通 常只有在領導者天怒人怨之時才會出現,這是完全合情合理合法的。 Taiwan is a democracy in transition. It faces challenges and some of those challenges come from the DPP. 台灣正在面臨民主轉型,事實上台灣需要民進黨帶領才能客服這過程中遇到的 種種挑戰 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 211.76.175.170 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FuMouDiscuss/M.1396255981.A.3F6.html ※ 編輯: puec2 (211.76.175.170), 03/31/2014 16:53:22

03/31 16:54, , 1F
AIT理事會到底哪來的 我怎麼記得前幾天看到版友說這組織怪
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03/31 16:55, , 2F
印象是打哈哈不是官方辦事處
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03/31 16:56, , 3F
原文跟報紙差好多
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03/31 16:58, , 4F
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03/31 16:58, , 5F
神翻譯! 中肯!!
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03/31 16:58, , 6F
怎麼感覺翻得怪怪的
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03/31 16:59, , 7F
dissatisfied 好像有誤翻
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03/31 17:01, , 8F
不只怪,根本曲解
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03/31 17:02, , 9F
翻譯是高級反串?
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03/31 17:02, , 10F
翻譯看起來是完全故意翻錯的,甚至是反串
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03/31 17:04, , 11F
這是故意翻錯吧
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03/31 17:14, , 12F
很多都翻成相反的意思,明顯是故意的
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03/31 17:15, , 13F
這是故意反串的嗎? 最後一段翻譯得完全相反,呵呵
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03/31 17:37, , 14F
跟報紙說的完全不一樣耶
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03/31 17:37, , 15F
等等補噓
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03/31 17:40, , 16F
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03/31 18:12, , 17F
很多都翻的跟原意相反…
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03/31 18:35, , 18F
反串嗎?
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03/31 18:50, , 19F
XXXXXXXXXXXXXD
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03/31 19:52, , 20F
神反串!!!
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03/31 19:59, , 21F
神反串!!
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03/31 19:59, , 22F
專門給不懂英文的DPPer看的XD
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04/01 05:59, , 23F
反串的
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04/05 01:05, , 24F
當我英文白癡?
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