[閒聊] Re-rank the O-Rank

看板FBaseball作者 (尚未通過身分認證 )時間15年前 (2009/02/19 21:41), 編輯推噓11(1106)
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之前小弟一直很好奇YAHOO預設的O-rank 不知道是依據何種ranking methodology來排的 (可能是按去年Rank 再加上FB那些專家的主觀微調吧) 而YAHOO的Ranking methodolody似乎也沒公佈 搞得好像黑箱作業一樣 所以不少新手會在中後段不知道要選誰的時候 就會直接參考O-rank 當然 老手往往就是可以從這些地方"偷"到被低估的選手 剛好本身是學統計的 運用簡單的工具自創了一個rank給版眾參考 順便拋磚引玉 看能不能激發更多數量化方式的評估選手方法 http://www.badongo.com/file/13465567 -- 先貼top 100 (U for under-rated, O for over-rated in O-Rank) Player Pos O-Rank R-Rank evaluation Álex Rodríguez (NYY - 3B) 2 1 Hanley Ramírez (Fla - SS) 1 2 David Wright (NYM - 3B) 5 3 Matt Holliday (Oak - OF) 36 4 U+ Albert Pujols (StL - 1B) 3 5 Lance Berkman (Hou - 1B) 18 6 Chase Utley (Phi - 2B) 22 7 U José Reyes (NYM - SS) 4 8 CC Sabathia (NYY - SP) 27 9 U Carlos Beltrán (NYM - OF) 19 10 Mariano Rivera (NYY - RP) 74 11 U+ Manny Ramírez (LAD - OF) NA 29 12 U Johan Santana (NYM - SP) 17 13 Ryan Howard (Phi - 1B) 10 14 J.Papelbon (Bos - RP) 50 15 U+ Ryan Dempster (ChC - SP) 149 16 U+ Russell Martin (LAD - C,3B) 41 17 U Grady Sizemore (Cle - OF) 6 18 Ryan Braun (Mil - OF) 8 19 Roy Halladay (Tor - SP) 58 20 U+ Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B,3B) 7 21 O Chipper Jones (Atl - 3B) 65 22 U+ Tim Lincecum (SF - SP) 21 23 Jimmy Rollins (Phi - SS) 12 24 Magglio Ordóñe (Det - OF) 62 25 U+ Brandon Webb (Ari - SP) 46 26 U Joe Nathan (Min - RP) 72 27 U+ Josh Hamilton (Tex - OF) 9 28 O Mark Teixeira (NYY - 1B) 13 29 O Bobby Abreu (LAA - OF) 94 30 U+ Jake Peavy (SD - SP) 48 31 U Dustin Pedroia (Bos - 2B) 24 32 F.Rodrígu z (NYM - RP) 79 33 U+ Rich Harden (ChC - SP) 96 34 U+ Cole Hamels (Phi - SP) 45 35 Dan Haren (Ari - SP) 59 36 U José Valverde (Hou - RP) 126 37 U+ Nick Markakis (Bal - OF) 35 38 Brian Roberts (Bal - 2B) 38 39 Joakim Soria (KC - RP) 99 40 U+ Ian Kinsler (Tex - 2B) DL 11 41 O+ Carlos Lee (Hou - OF) 26 42 O Prince Fielder (Mil - 1B) 20 43 O Vlad. Guerrero (LAA - OF) 32 44 Ichiro Suzuki (Sea - OF) 34 45 Cliff Lee (Cle - SP) 91 46 U+ Brandon Phillips(Cin - 2B) DL 25 47 O Ryan Ludwick (StL - OF) 83 48 U+ Álex Ríos (Tor - OF) 43 49 Kevin Youkilis (Bos - 1B,3B) 40 50 Adrián Gonzále (SD - 1B) 49 51 C.Granderson (Det - OF) 42 52 Aramis Ramírez (ChC - 3B) 39 53 O Jose Arredondo (LAA - RP) 305 54 U+ Brian McCann (Atl - C) 44 55 Takashi Saito (Bos - RP) 303 56 U+ Ricky Nolasco (Fla - SP) 136 57 U+ Brad Lidge (Phi - RP) 81 58 U Nate McLouth (Pit - OF) 55 59 Alfonso Soriano (ChC - OF) 16 60 O+ Aubrey Huff (Bal - 1B,3B) 77 61 U Justin Morneau (Min - 1B) 30 62 O+ Jason Bay (Bos - OF) 31 63 O+ Joe Mauer (Min - C) 52 64 Dan Uggla (Fla - 2B) 71 65 Josh Beckett (Bos - SP) 75 66 Kelvim Escobar (LAA - SP) DL 314 67 U+ Torii Hunter (LAA - OF) 113 68 U+ Matt Kemp (LAD - OF) 37 69 O+ Derrek Lee (ChC - 1B) 95 70 U+ J.J. Putz (NYM - RP) 318 71 U+ Joey Devine (Oak - RP) 237 72 U+ Roy Oswalt (Hou - SP) 98 73 U+ Carlos Mármol (ChC - RP) 121 74 U+ John Smoltz (Bos - SP) 231 75 U+ Kerry Wood (Cle - RP) 140 76 U+ Johnny Damon (NYY - OF) 116 77 U+ Ted Lilly (ChC - SP) 190 78 U+ James Shields (TB - SP) 97 79 U Edinson Vólquez (Cin - SP) 117 80 U+ A.J. Burnett (NYY - SP) 105 81 U Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF) 76 82 Geovany Soto (ChC - C) 54 83 O+ Chad Billingsley(LAD - SP) 73 84 Michael Young (Tex - SS) 80 85 Adam Dunn (Was - 1B,OF) 66 86 O Shane Victorino (Phi - OF) 47 87 O+ Raúl Ibañez (Phi - OF) 122 88 U+ B.J. Upton (TB - OF) 14 89 O+ Jhonny Peralta (Cle - SS) 109 90 U Daisuke Matsuzaka(Bos - SP) 114 91 U Garrett Atkins (Col - 1B,3B) 64 92 O+ Bobby Jenks (CWS - RP) 110 93 U Carlos Delgado (NYM - 1B) 119 94 U+ Francisco Cordero(Cin - RP) 144 95 U+ Billy Wagner (NYM - RP) 302 96 U+ Justin Duchscherer(Oak - SP) 211 97 U+ Corey Hart (Mil - OF) 56 98 O+ John Lackey (LAA - SP) 85 99 O Derek Jeter (NYY - SS) 89 100 -- top 100中看起來比較奇怪的是57 Jose Arredondo 什麼RP咖竟然可以排上前100 查看原始數據去年竟然有10W 像這種都是中繼撿到的勝投 而且取樣又只有2年 就當作是統計上的誤差吧 orz -- 下一步: 跑個層級貝氏來模擬預測09年成績好了 (如果有時間整理數據的話 orz) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.43.198.48

02/19 21:55, , 1F
先推一個! 以後可以出一個ptt版的FB!!!XD
02/19 21:55, 1F

02/19 22:04, , 2F
少把一項算進去 球場因素, 如果要預測這點個人覺得蠻重要的
02/19 22:04, 2F

02/19 22:08, , 3F
Matt Holliday去年O-Rank很高,但今年下山..O-rank變36..
02/19 22:08, 3F

02/19 22:09, , 4F
我覺得你把去年數據看的過重
02/19 22:09, 4F

02/19 22:22, , 5F
O-rank跟年齡也有關好像
02/19 22:22, 5F

02/19 22:24, , 6F
還是感謝原PO的初步分析.光整理數據就很討厭 想到就懶惰了:P
02/19 22:24, 6F

02/19 22:27, , 7F
ORank這三年做得相當不錯 所以屠殺外國人越來越難了 XD
02/19 22:27, 7F

02/19 22:30, , 8F
Cabrera的rank讓我滿訝異的@@
02/19 22:30, 8F

02/19 22:56, , 9F
我CC拿去交易到假日 照你這個看起來好像是虧@@
02/19 22:56, 9F

02/19 22:57, , 10F
但也沒虧太大 算了~出清洋基球員讓對方賺一點沒差
02/19 22:57, 10F

02/19 23:13, , 11F
O-Rank是按照5X5 所以SU不會在O-Rank top 100
02/19 23:13, 11F

02/19 23:13, , 12F
沒有龍哥~
02/19 23:13, 12F

02/19 23:13, , 13F
Escobar會不會太誇張阿
02/19 23:13, 13F

02/19 23:14, , 14F
NYM三個RP都出現 = =
02/19 23:14, 14F

02/19 23:58, , 15F
因為艾絲摳八前年成績太塞雷了 去年沒出賽
02/19 23:58, 15F

02/19 23:58, , 16F
所以數據是直接抓到前年 -_-"
02/19 23:58, 16F

02/20 12:37, , 17F
Smoltz這rank...
02/20 12:37, 17F
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