Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com> wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2012, at 21:09, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:12 AM, John Kozubik wrote:
>>> Again, I'm not suggesting more snapshots - I am suggesting more real, b=
ona fide releases. =A0This will help people.
>>
>> I tend to agree with you. =A0Our release engineering process isn't servi=
ng the needs of users as much as it once did. =A0When Walnut Creek was runn=
ing release engineering, we had releases often because they wanted to make =
money from their subscriptions. =A0This produced reasonably spaced minor re=
leases and except for 4-5, decently spaced major releases. =A0Even after th=
e torch passed from walnut creek to others, there was still either residual=
 pressures to make the releases happen, or inherited mindset that keep on t=
he same pace.
>>
>> Today we have lost our way. =A0We have no major vendor pushing the proce=
ss along to make it happen faster.
>
> What exactly did the major vendor to push things along? Keep nagging?
>
> I'd have thought PC-BSD and iXsystems are the natural people to to take o=
ver that role in any
> case. =A0 The FreeBSD foundation seems =A0less interested in the "for end=
-users" angle as well.

We'd be happy to sponsor a full-time employee at the Mall to handle
rolling -STABLE into release a few more times per year. We might need
a bit of help maintaining a long term release but we think it's a
pretty good idea all the way around.

Cheers,
-matt
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