Re: Why is not more FreeBSD software written in C++?
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On Monday 17 April 2006 16:47, John Baldwin wrote:
> To be honest, if you want a "safer" language, I'd prefer going from C to
> C# or Java. C++'s syntax is, quite frankly, clunky in several places.
I perceive the syntax of C++, C# and Java to be very similar. The differenc=
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are minor. What about C++ is clunky that isn't also clunky in C# and Java?=
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One thing that comes to mind is that you can't use >> with nested templates=
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but then that's not one of the most common things a C++ programmer writes=20
anyway. The things that bug me about C++ are mostly semantic in nature (no=
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uniform access or read-only vars, requiring you to manually create accessor=
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functions for everything, for example. Or no contracts, but then none of th=
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mentioned languages offer that.)
> At work I recently described C# generics as "C++ templates that don't
> suck" for example. :)
But C# templates offer little over the C++ ones (well, ok, there is one thi=
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template type specification, that's nice), but have severe limitations. Why=
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do you like them better?
> Also, many of the bugs I either have myself or run into in other people's
> code come from the programmer not taking into account all of the conditio=
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> (i.e. missing an edge case in implementation or design), and those type of
> bugs are not something a language is going to solve.
Sure, there won't ever be a dwim language. But every mechanism that prevent=
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class of bugs categorically is a step in the right direction, imo (that'd b=
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the direction of correctness). I'm aware that C++ isn't much of an=20
improvement over C when it comes to providing such mechanisms. However, it=
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does make writing code more comfortable (well, if you know it, and like OOP=
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and it is actually shipped with the FreeBSD base system.
Cheers
Benjamin
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