[求譯] up to 3 days before

看板Eng-Class作者 (kaichien)時間9年前 (2016/04/28 01:08), 編輯推噓5(5推 0噓 50→)
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大家好， 想請問下面這句： You can collect the ticket up to 3 days before the show-don't leave it too late. 意思是 1. 表演前三天要取完票 or 2. 表演前三天才開始取票？ 謝謝大家 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 109.84.2.245 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1461776888.A.78C.html
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04/28 02:20, , 1F
是期限
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04/28 02:48, , 2F
我覺得文法上兩個解釋都有可能，但2.不合常理，沒有
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票這麼晚才開始取的。再加上它都提醒你不要太晚取票了
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，所以應該是1。
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04/28 05:54, , 5F
是2
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04/28 06:26, , 6F
如果把up to解釋成up until那就會是1.
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04/28 06:38, , 7F
yeah i think you're right!
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04/28 19:24, , 8F
謝謝大家，看來兩種都有可能？但兩者差好多啊><還是
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04/28 19:34, , 9F
謝謝大家！我覺得T說的滿有道理的，但這個取票
04/28 19:34, 9F
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04/28 19:34, , 10F
方案是給外國人，因此我覺得2也是滿有可能的
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04/28 19:51, , 11F
up to 是 limit or boundary
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04/28 19:52, , 12F
我會覺得方向性不可能是從表演當天當起點往前算到第三天截止
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04/28 19:53, , 13F
所以說文法都可以，我不同意。
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04/28 19:53, , 14F
描述時間性方向性不會是用倒流的
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04/28 19:59, , 15F
所以priv也覺得應該是1囉？
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04/28 20:53, , 16F
Up to 本身應該沒有方向性，方向是 before 賜予的，
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所以我還是認為文法上兩者皆通。
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understanding-ovulation
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（抱歉我不會縮網址）請參考這篇文章的最後一段，其
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中有一句“ If you have intercourse up to 3 days be
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fore ovulation, those sperm can still be viable an
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d capable of fertilising the egg.”。從前後文可以
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判斷，這邊的 up to 就是 no more than 而不是 up unt
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il 的意思。
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04/29 18:34, , 26F
在跟時間有關的句子中，"up to" 的確有可能被解釋為 "up
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until"，不過若當 "up until" 解的話，跟在其後的應會是
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"a particular/specific point in time or the event
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mentioned"，我們來看看「朗文英語聯想活用辭典」對此的
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說明:〝If something happens 'up until' or 'up to' a
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particular time, date etc, it happens continuously
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before that time but no longer happens after that
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time.〞，例句: She continued to write poetry, up to
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the day she died.; 而 "up to" 在跟時間有關的句子中當
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"not more than" 解釋時，跟在其後的通常會是 a general
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term covering a span of time
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CCALD 8th對此的說明為: amount "You use 'up to' to
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say how large something can be or what level it has
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reached."， 例句: It could be up to two years before
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the process is complete.
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LDOCE 對此的說明為: "as much or as many as a certain
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amount or number but not more"，例句: a process that
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can take anything up to ten days
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ODE對此的說明為: "indicating a maximum amount"，例句:
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the process is expected to take up to two years
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因此，綜上所述，若原po這句話要做1.來解釋的話，它長的
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應該會像下面這兩個網頁中有出現 "up to" 的句子，節錄其
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中一句: "Currently, such alterations may only be made
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up to the fifth day before the day of poll."
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參考網址: 1. http://tinyurl.com/jmeeps3 (最下面兩句)
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2. http://tinyurl.com/zk8grqa (第74點的最後一句話)
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(P.S. 皆為政府網站，一為美國、一為英國)
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謝謝大家的回答，和各種參考網站和例句！感謝！
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