[文法] Who is the man who...

看板Eng-Class作者 (Hohlolang)時間8年前 (2015/12/20 11:17), 8年前編輯推噓6(6019)
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1. Who is the man who is playing ball over there? 2. Who is the man that is playing ball over there? 我問老幾位well-educated native speakers,他們說兩句都對。 還有一人說第一句比第二句好。 可是台灣的國中參考書都是為了避免重複,第一句是不對的。 他們說沒有這回事。不知各位先進看法如何? --

12/20 16:10, , 1F
我遇過一個台灣補習班老師說 第二句比較好 因為用口
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12/20 16:10, , 2F
語溝通時候會比較不容易搞混
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12/20 16:11, , 3F
不過老美可能沒這個障礙?
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洋人好幾個都說真正自然的說法是 Who is the man playing ball over there? ※ 編輯: Chengheong (114.45.142.145), 12/20/2015 19:18:36

12/20 19:27, , 4F
Who is the man playing ball over there? +1
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12/20 19:27, , 5F
這樣說一點都不拖泥帶水
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12/20 19:28, , 6F
感覺直接用分詞修飾MAN就好了~~ 的感覺
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12/20 21:02, , 7F
原po造的句有沒有考慮過是man影響who的偏好大於that?
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12/20 21:02, , 8F
如果我改成避免重複which這樣的版本呢?諸如:
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12/20 21:03, , 9F
(1-a) Which is the dog which bit you?
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12/20 21:03, , 10F
(1-b) Which is the dog that bit you?
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12/20 21:04, , 11F
這樣外籍人士的偏好會不會還是傾向(1-a)呢?先不管分詞
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12/20 21:04, , 12F
化的版本。同時很有趣的,我剛剛稍微從語料庫來看,可找
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12/20 21:05, , 13F
到不少 Which is DP prep+which 的版本,例如以下這個:
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12/20 21:07, , 14F
等句子,當然that前不接介詞這個小點大家都知道,但我
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12/20 21:08, , 15F
想強調國中教的「避免重複」確實有修改可議的空間,感謝
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12/20 21:08, , 16F
原PO提出來討論
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12/20 21:09, , 17F
先回到我原先的猜想,其實我也只是有感而發,注意到其實
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12/20 21:11, , 18F
像是those/anyone等表人的詞的who/that偏好,以及
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12/20 21:11, , 19F
anything/everything等表事詞的that/which偏好給煩過XD
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12/20 21:12, , 20F
是可以好好去找找更多外籍人士做統計調查的
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12/20 21:19, , 21F
哀,我發覺我(1)用dog恐有不妥,我把它改成skirt好了:
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(2-a) Which is the skirt which he likes?
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(2-b) Which is the skirt that he likes?
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12/21 23:07, , 24F
1是比較不正統的版本,不過現在連課本都用了,也不會怎
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