[文法] 關係代名詞~

看板Eng-Class作者 (iloveonions)時間11年前 (2014/10/04 18:59), 編輯推噓2(2推 0噓 92→)
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在文法書看到這一題 Once used, the bags are stored for the flight back to the earth,___ they are disposed of. a) where b)what c) which d) whether 答案是 a but why????? 如果說where= on which 就變成they are disposed of on the earth?? 好像怪怪的 認真思考過 但是想不出來 拜託大家幫我解惑 感謝!!!! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.137.70.13 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1412420348.A.E2B.html
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10/04 19:25, , 1F
太空垃圾拿回地球再丟啊，有哪裡不對嗎？
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10/04 22:58, , 2F
dispose of 不及物動詞片語 http://ppt.cc/kDq9
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of 會讓你覺得想要有受詞,對吧？y
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10/04 23:01, , 4F
某些不及物片語動詞 ->當作及物動詞 ->所以有被動形式。
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10/04 23:02, , 5F
不及物片語動詞**** >.>
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10/05 01:21, , 6F
想成they are disposed of (by people) on the earth？
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10/05 02:36, , 7F
樓上的連結一定是哪裡有什麼誤會 -_-
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10/05 02:37, , 8F
明明說不及物，可是下面每個例句都把dispose of當成及物動
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10/05 02:37, , 9F
詞在用
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10/05 02:38, , 10F
然後它事實上也應該是及物動詞
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10/05 07:53, , 11F
謝謝大家 我了解了!!!
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10/05 12:28, , 12F
及物跟不及物,他一開始的解釋就是不及物啊...........?
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10/05 12:29, , 13F
verb 1. [NO OBJECT] 然後例句也是不及物...~"~
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10/05 12:31, , 14F
然後例句第二句很明顯: to dospose of after their ~
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10/05 12:32, , 15F
之後幾個用法,有寫"with object" ...
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10/05 12:34, , 16F
I大解釋不太正確 字典寫[no object]是指dispose本身
10/05 12:34, 16F
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10/05 12:34, , 17F
但dispose of連用應該視為及物
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10/05 12:35, , 18F
所以應該說成"及物片語動詞" 而非"不及物片語動詞"
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10/05 12:36, , 19F
例句第二句dispose of的受詞是substantial assets
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10/05 12:40, , 20F
但是如果是受詞的話應該直接接在of後面吧。
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10/05 12:44, , 21F
I need something to eat. 你認為eat是及物還是不及物?
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10/05 13:16, , 22F
老實說我會覺得to eat是補語, 不及物。
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10/05 13:19, , 23F
另外我知道no object指的是dispose本身,我誤以為在說動
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10/05 13:19, , 24F
詞本身是及物還是不及物orz
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10/05 13:24, , 25F
Orz 那個something就是被吃的東西阿 還不明白嗎?
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10/05 13:25, , 26F
I need a pen to write with. pen就是with的受詞阿
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10/05 13:27, , 27F
我對dispose of 的及物用法ok。但是他的被動帶介詞.....
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10/05 13:33, , 28F
a pen [to write with] 我會覺得是補語,這樣筆算受詞嗎?
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10/05 13:36, , 29F
to write with是一個不定詞片語當形容詞修飾a pen
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但分析to write with本身的時候 缺了一個受詞
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10/05 13:37, , 31F
那個with的受詞就是被提到前面的a pen
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10/05 13:37, , 32F
如此證明剛剛例句2的dispose of是及物動詞
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10/05 13:38, , 33F
因為該有的受詞就是被提到前面的substantial assets
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10/05 13:40, , 34F
請想成I need a pen that I can write with.
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10/05 13:42, , 35F
如果把to write with想成補語就會發現這樣with缺受詞
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10/05 13:42, , 36F
這樣就不對了 例如I need a pen so that I can write.
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此時不可以再有with
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10/05 13:50, , 38F
當然也可以有補語的情況 例如 I need a pen to go on
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writing. 此時to後面就是補語 總之我要點出的是
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10/05 13:51, , 40F
你不能因為dispose of後面沒有直接接名詞而認為這是
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10/05 13:52, , 41F
不及物用法 因為那個實際上的受詞可能被提到前面了
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10/05 14:49, , 42F
所以這題的受詞是...?
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10/05 17:35, , 43F
受詞是they (the bags)
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...where the astronauts(?) dispose of the bags.
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10/05 18:53, , 45F
所以...受詞提前的話可以以主格方式存在的意思~"~?
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10/05 19:16, , 46F
就被動式啊...
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The fruit is eaten. The car is driven.
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The question is answered. The pet is fed.
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The garbage is disposed of.
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問題被動式後面不會有個沒伴的介系詞~"~?
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10/05 19:22, , 51F
或者說介詞後面不一定要有受詞?或者如果是提到前面不用
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10/05 19:22, , 52F
就是有啊，be disposed of不就是活生生的例子 -_-
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10/05 19:22, , 53F
依受格的方式存在也是可以的...? >"<
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The logbook is written to. The plan is carried out.
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10/05 19:24, , 55F
The mind is made up. The unused minutes are rolled over
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10/05 19:25, , 56F
-＿-所以是以'此例說明此例'的意思囉?好吧我懂了。謝謝
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The road-kill animal was run over.
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10/05 19:27, , 58F
你說沒有這種文法，我舉例給你看滿地都是啊
10/05 19:27, 58F
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10/05 19:28, , 59F
所以那些全部都是及物片語動詞？ o.o?
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10/05 19:33, , 60F
我的想法是因為不及物所以後面沒受詞of也能被保留。...
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10/05 19:34, , 61F
不過你們的意思應該是他是及物片語只是受詞提前這樣o.o
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You make up your mind to carry out the plan.
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是吧> <? 哎...我再想想...謝謝你們的指導> <
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...carry out the plan to run over your neighbor's
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annoying dog.
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http://ppt.cc/W737 及物。但是都有加上受詞。困擾>"<
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10/05 19:39, , 68F
make up的不及物用法只有(6)，我上面的例子是(1)
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10/05 19:40, , 69F
把 "dispose of" 整個東西當成單一動詞就是啦，哪來那麼多
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囉嗦...
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10/05 21:32, , 71F
先把及物不及物定義搞清楚吧 雞同鴨講根本...
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10/05 21:34, , 72F
你都查到dispose of只能當及物 所以它出現的所有情況
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10/05 21:35, , 73F
即使後方沒有出現受詞 都還是及物動詞阿 = =
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10/06 03:33, , 74F
我也覺得雞同鴨講啊...請問閣下的及物不及物定義是?-.-
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http://ppt.cc/0s3j "A transitive verb is followed by
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..."你沒看到我說困擾嗎?就是覺得有衝突啊-.-
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的確是有找到及物的用法,所以要否認他可能存在不及物的
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用法o.o?可以請問受詞提前的文法規則而非只是例句嗎o.o?
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10/06 03:41, , 79F
我覺得應該有...只是我找不太到~"~ ...
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10/06 07:06, , 80F
"They are disposed of" 這句的動詞是 are。 disposed of
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隨便你要叫分詞還是補語什麼都好。
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10/06 07:08, , 82F
但是這跟 to dispose of 是及物動詞後面必須接受詞完全是兩
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回事
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我猜你大概是卡在這裡
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就像"the fruit is eaten." 被動寫法，eaten後面沒有受詞，
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但to eat仍然是及物動詞，後面一定要有受詞。
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推
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where = in which,
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the bags they are disposed of in the earth
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謝謝wohtp 的解釋！
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推
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他嘲笑我 He laughed at me.
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我被他嘲笑 I was laughed at by him.
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一般的Vi是永遠主動沒錯，剛好這裡的dispose是少數的
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例外，和laugh一樣可用被動說法，但是原先的介係詞需留
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下，語意才清楚完整。
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