[轉錄]Re: [新聞] 張忠謀:台灣鎖國10年 經濟괠…

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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板] 作者: sfp (Fru:z) 站內: Gossiping 標題: Re: [新聞] 張忠謀:台灣鎖國10年 經濟倒退 時間: Wed Nov 21 15:20:33 2007 ※ 引述《joshux (josh)》之銘言: : 看一下原文吧 : Taiwan is competitive, yet lacks openness: : http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business/2007/11/21/131759/Taiwan-is.htm 這個也不是原文 是記者的報導 以下是看得到張忠謀原文的部份: Taiwan remains a highly competitive economy. 台灣在經濟上還是保持高度競爭力 Taiwan benefits from a highly educated population, a healthy ecosystem and industrious, diligent workers 台灣的優勢在人民的教育程度 健康的生態 還有勤勞勤勉的工人 While such measurements are not easily quantifiable," stressed Chang, "I think that anyone who has worked with Taiwanese people will agree that they are very industrious and hard-working. 這些東西很難量化 不過曾和台灣人共事的人都會同意 台灣人很勤勞 工作勤奮 This is the biggest weakness in the near term," said Chang. "Incomplete globalization is becoming more and more a drag on the economy. During the last 10 years, as globalization has accelerated, Taiwan has either stood still or even gone backward. 短期內 這(記者說是指Openess 開放性)就是最大的弱點 不完整的全球化越來越變成是經濟上的阻力 過去的十年 全球化加速 台灣因而停滯或甚至倒退 If Taiwan had seized the opportunity 15 to 20 years ago, its economic development would be much faster. It simply failed to take advantage of that opportunity. 台灣若在15到20年前有把握機會的話 經濟發展會比現在好得多 (即1987-1992之間) 當時白白浪費了那個機會 Even though Taiwan had had democracy for at least a decade, the necessary institutions have not yet been set up. There needs to be more balance between the executive, legislative and judicial branches 雖然台灣擁有民主已有十年以上的時間 社會制度還沒有建立起來 (我認為這裡的institutions是指社會制度 包括政府組織) 行政, 立法, 司法三權還需要更平衡一點 然後記者補充 特別是執法面需要加強 The heavy boot steps of government are everywhere 政府的效率在許多地方都有待改進 Every day, you see in the news that there are many infractions and violations in this area. It is a common occurrence and yet the bad behavior continues 每天 都在新聞看到 有違反執法的事情發生 經常發生 這種壞行為一直持續著 "Most Taiwanese companies are dominated by single major shareholders or are family-owned. This does not provide a good environment for good corporate governance. In fact, good corporate governance is usually contrary to the interests of single major shareholders or families." 絕大部份的台灣公司 都掌握在少數大股東手上 或是家族企業 對公司治理而言 無法提供一個良好的環境 "The Chinese people are very tradition-bound," he said. "Conformity is valued rather than innovation." Taiwan is also a very inward-looking country, in his view. 華人性格是非常傳統的 重視服從甚於創新 台灣是一個非常向內部看的國家 "It reminds me of the Qing Dynasty Emperor Qian Long who ruled in the late 18th century. He was considered one of the best emperors and, yet, my feeling is that this represents an egregious overestimation of what he did." 讓我想起清乾隆 他被認為是最好的皇帝 但我的感覺是 這是對他所做評價太高了 "He knew nothing about the outside world," noted Chang. "In his eyes, running the country very well was enough; China was better than the rest of the world. Lots of events happening today remind me of that attitude." 他不知道外面的世界 從他眼中 好好治理國家就夠了 中國比世界其餘的部份來得好 現在發生的很多事讓我想到這樣的態度 "Trust is extended to only a small circle of people," Chang said, citing research by Francis Fukuyama, indicating that Asian societies score comparatively low when it came to willingness to extend trust. 人與人之間的信任只維持在小圈子內 根據研究 說到擴展信任 亞洲社會的得分相對就低了 "There is too much emphasis in Taiwan on transfer of knowledge and not enough on independent, creative thinking," 在台灣, 太重視知識的傳承. 獨立的, 創造性的思考, 則是非常不足. "Those reforms were very difficult," said Chang. "I am not too optimistic that any similar reform can take place in Taiwan. It is not that I am a pessimist but I am also not very optimistic in expecting such major reform." 這些改革非常困難 對於這樣的改革發生在台灣 我不是太樂觀 我並非悲觀主義者 只是我對於這種主要的改革並不是非常的樂觀 When asked whether he thought a two-tier economy (competitive high-tech sector vs. an uncompetitive rest of the economy) was developing, Chang observed with a laugh that, "Taiwanese high-tech companies are not that good. They also suffer from problems. In addition, many companies in other industries are not that bad." It is more, he said, a question of who started the company and their leadership ability." *當被問到是否雙階層的經濟正在成形(科技產業及傳統產業) 台灣的高科技公司沒那麼好 他們有他們的問題 其他產業的許多公司也沒那麼糟 與其說是產業的分別 不如說誰創立的公司 他們的領導風格 更重要 As most Taiwanese companies started out as OEM providers, Chang sees no reason why the same model cannot be replicated with success for other sectors like biotech: "It is the natural path for almost every Taiwanese company to do contract manufacturing." (大部份的台灣公司以OEM起家 張忠謀認為沒有理由這種模式不能應用到其他產業 例如生技) 對幾乎所有台灣公司來說 這是很自然的路線 "Given that Taiwan has only 2 percent the population of China, I think that it is best if Taiwan-similar to Hong Kong-plays the role of a gateway." 台灣的人口大概是中國的2% 我認為台灣最好像香港一樣 扮演入口的角色 "It is not a question of losing out to Chinese companies but to any companies," he said. "To keep from losing out, you have to safeguard your trade secrets and protect your IP." 重點不是會不會輸給中國的公司 而是世界上的任何一家公司 不想輸的話 就要保護好你的商業機密 你的智慧財產權 Right now, I would lift restrictions on investment and open the three links," saying these policies have contributed to one of Taiwan's chief weaknesses, namely an economy that is "incompletely globalized, incompletely opened." (如果他有魔杖的話) 我會解除投資的限制 開放三通 (台灣經濟的弱點在於)不完整的全球化 不完整的開放 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.229.50.46

11/21 15:22,
台灣人的背後是日本人?!
11/21 15:22

11/21 15:21,
我個人覺得台灣的開放度...一直低於我們試著能去做的。
11/21 15:21

11/21 15:25,
再拖的話.....以後也別想追了吧....金融、航運還有追較近
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11/21 15:25,
的可能嗎?
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11/21 15:25,
這讓我想到2年前在政大聽張X謀的演講 "所以說 就是要變"
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11/21 15:26,
變個大頭鬼 在錄影機前 我照睡 一點價值都沒有
11/21 15:26

11/21 15:26,
要「依據自己能做到的」.....去努力升級,我也反對跳級打
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11/21 15:27,
還不錯 可以學英文
11/21 15:27

11/21 15:27,
怪就是了......一點價值都沒有?
11/21 15:27

11/21 15:27,
感謝原po
11/21 15:27

11/21 15:28,
healthy ecosystem(汗)
11/21 15:28

11/21 15:29,
連記者也鎖國 英文不好 ˇˇ
11/21 15:29

11/21 15:28,
timshow可是顯然現在張某人比你有價值得多啊...
11/21 15:28

11/21 15:29,
健康的生態...XDDD
11/21 15:29

11/21 15:33,
突然覺得勤勞的工人也很酸......XD
11/21 15:33

11/21 15:33,
這兩年老張又不知幫自己以及股東賺多少,那個睡覺的還在睡吧
11/21 15:33

11/21 15:36,
睡覺還可以拿來說嘴...
11/21 15:36

11/21 15:44,
有沒有自己程度差聽不懂就睡 還說別人沒價值的八卦
11/21 15:44

11/21 15:48,
1987-1992 當時是老李執政年代吧
11/21 15:48

11/21 15:49,
Chinese people是指中國人吧!
11/21 15:49

11/21 15:50,
這裡指的是華人沒錯啊~
11/21 15:50

11/21 15:51,
我在想 把張拱上經濟部長 會不會跟林信義一樣被罵下台
11/21 15:51

11/21 15:54,
說開放的絕對會被罵不愛台灣..把他供上去也會被罵下臺
11/21 15:54

11/21 15:53,
一樣啦,政府單位不像民間自己當老闆一樣劍及履及地去做
11/21 15:53

11/21 15:55,
當了部長的人就得花時間精力去跟扯後腿的立法院對幹
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11/21 15:55,
大家小聲點討論 不要吵醒睡覺的
11/21 15:55

11/21 15:55,
這一點誰當部長都一樣,別以為誰當經濟部長就能改變
11/21 15:55

11/21 15:54,
timshow當時我也在,但人家就是可以領導企業賺錢
11/21 15:54
loser1:轉錄至看板 KMT 11/21 17:16 -- 台灣是中國永久不可分裂但可割讓的一部份。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.222.221.218

11/21 21:42, , 1F
別聽張董喇叭大陸研究生薪水不到我一半
11/21 21:42, 1F

11/21 21:42, , 2F
企業講究的是COST DOWN
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11/21 21:43, , 3F
對大陸全面開放台灣經濟衰退更快更慘
11/21 21:43, 3F

11/21 21:45, , 4F
大陸勞工價格便宜超有競爭力吸引力
11/21 21:45, 4F

11/21 21:47, , 5F
台灣700RMB能睡整夜嗎?
11/21 21:47, 5F

11/21 22:42, , 6F
準備變成菲律賓嗎XD
11/21 22:42, 6F
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