Re: 政治能問嗎

看板CultureShock作者FMZ (fmz N )時間17年前 (2007/01/22 02:05)推噓4(4推 0噓 1→)

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※ 引述《lerudit (l'Erudit)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《iambeetle (beetle)》之銘言： : : I assume that you prefer me to reply you in English, so I would it. : : 我假設你想要我用英文回復你，我可以。 : : But I notice that there might be some people don't feel comfortable : : 但是我知道可能有一部分人不太適應讀一大篇英文， : : reading a whole brunch of English. : : Therefore I will make it into Chinese as well. : : 所以我也會把它翻譯稱中文，這樣也比較清楚一點。 : : Just for the sake of clearness. : This is awfully terrible. : I write English here, because I haven't got Chinese system and there is nothing ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : I can do for this. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 跟大家分享一下如果有在國外念書的朋友想在bbs輸入中文的話 (耶...在台灣卻不能打中文的也可以參考一下拉..) 可以用以下的步驟以下是如何在英文版的windows xp底下使用中文 1. 如何看的到中文網頁進入 Control Panel => Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options =>Regional and language options => Languages => Instal files for east asian languages (這時候需要XP光碟英文版的也可) ============================================================================== 2. 如何能看到中文的bbs文字若單純以windows內建的telnet是無法看到的必須使用bbs專用的軟體,如PCman, KKman等 ============================================================================== 3. 如何能在網頁裡輸入中文安裝中文輸入法即可例如許多人使用的微軟新注音 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=56ddd600-61b1-492d-82c5-f553bd102b30&DisplayLang=zh-tw ============================================================================== 4. 如何能在bbs裡輸入中文一樣進入 Control Panel => =>Regional and language options 將Language for none-unicode program改成Chinese(Taiwan) (不過我保險起見將相關的區域設定都改成台灣啦!) 大功告成有一件需要注意的事情就是 kkman似乎無法照著這套步驟來在bbs上打中文我是使用英文版的XP配Pcman軟體目前快樂的打中文中沒有不相容的情況產生 ****************************************************************************** 不花一毛錢也不用等人家送中文系統過來遠在國外也可以使用祝大家使用順利拉! : I don't expect any reply or message to me would be in English. : It is very obvious that I can read Chinese, so that I could reply your article. : Certainly, you can write your post in either English or Chinese, or whatever. : However, the current one is just awful --- it makes reading very difficult. : It is even better if you put all the English together and Chinese together, : so that I can just ignore either of them. : If you think you are doing something good for another, : do ask the people if this is really good, before you do anything. : If the people say no, do respect their decision. : Do NOT presume your single mind is always correct and just do it. : In fact, the Chinese government is making the same mistake to every one : of its neighbour. : I am sorry that I am not allowed to spend an afternoon to reply such non-sense : article. It is football season, so please pull your socks up. Thanks. : : ------------------------ : : At first, I was quite shock that how could you be so cocky and absolute. : : 剛開始，我很驚訝你為甚麼可以這麼自大和絕對化自己想法。 : : However, I read it again and I think I know the reason why. : : 但是我又讀了一邊以後，我覺得我知道為甚麼了。 : : You are either heavily brianwashed, or you knows basically nothing. : : 你要不然是完全被洗腦了，就是根本甚麼都不知道。 : : I am not gonna argure with you based on hisotry, since I have said that : : history is not accurate. : : 我不會跟你理論歷史，因為我已經說過歷史其實本來就不準確。 : : However, I would like to talk about it based on your logic. : : 但是我會將你的邏輯來討論。 : : It's very hard to clarfy it, i would say. : : 其實，我會說，歷史是很難被認證的。 : : Not only the history of P.R.China and Taiwan, but also the world history, : : has always been argued over decades. : : 不只是中國和台灣的歷史，就連世界歷史，這麼久以來一直被爭論著。 : : I was surprised that it seems so easy to solve to you. : : 我很驚訝你會覺得對於歷史問題這麼容易就可以解決。 : : Then what are those historians and professors doing for such a long time? : : slacking off? (lol) : : 如果是這樣，那麼這麼久以來，這麼多的歷史學家和教授都在做些甚麼？ : : 偷懶嗎？（笑） : : Are you dissing Chinese people here? Where is your hatred from? : : 你現在是在針對中國百姓嗎？你對中國普通百姓的憎恨是怎麼來的？ : : What is wrong with bargaining? That is a part of culture. : : 講價有甚麼不好的？這甚至是文化的一部分。 : : And your stereotype is very bad. There are clean and beatiful cities in China. : : 你對中國的印象真的很差，雖然我不知道是哪裡來的。 : : 中國也有很多漂亮而且干凈的城市。 : : If you want to talk about politics, don't blame people. : : 如果你是要講政府和政治，那就不要把怪罪到百姓人民身上。 : : Regarding to what you said above, : : 對於你上面所說的， : : I think you have made a big mistake here. : : 我覺得你犯了一個大錯誤。 : : The fact that History can be interpreted doesn't mean that history : : can be interpreted correctly. : : 歷史可以被理解這事實並不代錶歷史一定可以被正確理解。 : : The history itself is ambiguous, if you force to interprete it one-way only, : : there must be bias inyour interpretation. : : 歷史本來就是很多面化和很模糊（不好意思我真的不知道怎麼翻譯ambiguous) : : ，如果你硬是要單一化的理解歷史，那你的理解一定會有偏見。 : : And I don't understand that you said you would talk about "considerations", : : "evidance" and "research", because you have not. : : 我不明白你為甚麼說你會講"considerations", "evidance" 和 "research"， : : 因為很明顯你並沒有。 : : And if you have done your research, I am sure that you won't get so cocky : : anymore. Because there are a lot of sides and bias in the source. : : It overwhelms you. : : 如果你有做研究的話，那我敢保證你不會再這麼自大。因為當你在找資料的時候， : : 你會發現有很多不同的版本和偏見，立場。你根本不能應付過來。 : : First of all, I don't like your words "invade" and "attacks", : : 首先，我很不喜歡你的字眼“侵略”和“攻擊”， : : because we have not invaded or attacked Taiwan. : : 因為我們並沒有“侵略”或“攻擊”台灣。 : : The fact is we even suggest peace. Also, at least until now, : : we haven't started a war. : : 我們甚至提倡和平，並且到現在為之，我們並沒有發起戰爭。 : : But I would like to ask you one question. : : 但是我想問你一個問題， : : Althought Taiwan has bought weapons from the US, do you think those weapon : : can protect you? Are they even competitive? : : 就算台灣有跟美國買武器，你覺得它們真的有用嗎？真的能招架得住？ : : The US sells you weapons for money. : : As long as they gets money, they are happy doing it. : : 美國是為了賺錢才賣給你武器。只要它們能轉到錢，它們就開心了。 : : I don't think your example helps you. : : 我並不覺得你得例子有任何用處。 : : It makes non-sense. : : 這個例子根本就不是在說同樣的東西，事實上，這例子我根本不能理解。 : : Do we call "my dearest" to every girl? No, we don't. : : 我們真的都叫女生“my dearest”嗎？根本不是。 : : By the way, I have a name for you to call. No need to call me "Mr. Chinese" : : 順便說一下，我有名字，你不用一直叫我“Mr. Chinese”. : : Chinese people supports the government when it is doing the right thing. : : 中國人民在中國政府做正確的事情的時候，就支持中國政府。 : : Till now, for the most of the part, Chinese government is helping the : : 到現在為之，中國政府的確在幫助中國發展，所以我們支持。 : : country to develop. Therefore we support it. : : Over 85% of people support the current goverment in China. : : 超過百分之85的人民支持自己的政府。 : : Chinese government fulfills Chinese people's demand. : : 中國政府的確實現了很多中國人民的目標。 : : What about your government? : : If you are so happy about your government, answer the question. : : 如果你是這麼支持自己的政府，那你告訴我， : : What is the percentage that people support the curent govenment? : : 台灣現任政府民意指數多少？ : : After all, I am not saying Chinese government always do the right thing. : : 但是，說到底，我並不是在說中國政府一直都是很正確的。 : : There are evil sides of the government too. Just like any other government. : : 中國政府也有做一些不好的事情，就像所有國家的政府一樣。 : : But I have a piece of advice for you. : : 但是我想要給你一個建議， : : Put down your pride. Stop being so cocky, you will learn more. : : 收起你的驕傲和自大心。要是你謙虛一點，你可以學到更多東西。 -- California http://fmz.idv.st/ DCview http://www.dcview.com.tw/my/showalbumpic.asp?nickname=fmz&albumsn=0 Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/yenchi/ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.5.91 ※ 編輯: FMZ 來自: 140.112.5.91 (01/22 02:16)

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