Re: Re: Fw: [情報] Keith Law版2015百大新秀&各

看板Cubs作者 (扎姆德)時間9年前 (2015/01/31 01:01), 9年前編輯推噓10(10034)
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KLaw曾的報告 The Cubs paid Taiwanese RHP Jen-Ho Tseng last July for $1.625 million, a dubious investment to begin with given the track record of Taiwanese arms, but one that looks even more questionable now given how ordinary his stuff and arm speed are. Note: Of the five Taiwanese pitchers who signed for the highest bonuses with MLB clubs as amateurs, three blew out their arms at least once after signing, one hurt his shoulder and was done after a single season, and the last, Ching-Lung Lo, lost 5 to 7 mph off his fastball without suffering a catastrophic arm injury. Taiwanese teenagers pitch far more than their U.S.-born counterparts, and throw more breaking stuff, so it's not terribly surprising that their track record here isn't very good. Tseng threw Friday and was 89-92 with little life, flashing an 89-90 mph sinker as well that was probably the better weapon for him. He threw two breaking balls, a pretty but slow curveball with two-plane break but very soft rotation at 73-76 mph and a short slider at 84-85 that moved like a cutter without the benefit of cutter velocity. His arm wasn't quick at all, and at 6-foot-1 and 210 pounds, he doesn't offer any kind of projection. Like Zastryzny, Tseng might have a little more in the tank once we get into the regular season, but I couldn't write him up as a future starter. ----- Sent from JPTT on my Sony C6902. -- やっ..........!!!!!!止めろペイモンこの野郎~~~~~~っ 地獄でいきなり聖書なんえ 読み上げやがってえ~~~~~~~~~っ!!殺すえおっ!! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.251.254.104 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Cubs/M.1422637285.A.CC0.html ※ 編輯: Zamned (59.115.130.61), 01/31/2015 07:47:42

02/01 14:33, , 1F
英文不好只能勉強看個六分懂,很多細節看不太懂...
02/01 14:33, 1F

02/01 14:37, , 2F
不過Law不提他投很好的變速球反而提到滑球??
02/01 14:37, 2F

02/01 15:58, , 3F
他說滑球看起來像卡特 但沒有卡特該有的速度優勢
02/01 15:58, 3F

02/01 15:59, , 4F
另外他覺得曾沒變法變成先發…
02/01 15:59, 4F

02/02 00:56, , 5F
那邊大概看得懂 納悶的點是不提優點反而只提缺點.....
02/02 00:56, 5F

02/02 00:57, , 6F
目前應該還是普遍相信曾能在MLB當個先發投手才對...
02/02 00:57, 6F

02/02 02:52, , 7F
優點在sinker阿
02/02 02:52, 7F

02/02 08:47, , 8F
曾本來就不是Keith會喜歡的型,能上榜還滿意外的
02/02 08:47, 8F

02/02 08:49, , 9F
現在沒有普遍相信他可以先發,多半對直球跟身材有疑問
02/02 08:49, 9F

02/02 12:08, , 10F
太久沒看球探報告,原來曾的評價比我印象中低很多...
02/02 12:08, 10F

02/03 07:18, , 11F
Keith給的其實沒有差其他家太多,曾的upside是中段
02/03 07:18, 11F

02/03 07:19, , 12F
比較可能後段或牛棚,其實跟陳偉殷本來的projection
02/03 07:19, 12F

02/03 07:20, , 13F
差不太多,陳的評價低嗎?一點也不
02/03 07:20, 13F

02/03 07:20, , 14F
大聯盟就是這麼強啊!
02/03 07:20, 14F

02/03 13:16, , 15F
身材的問題是大概定型了,缺少成長空間。滑球老問題了,變
02/03 13:16, 15F

02/03 13:16, , 16F
速球一直再練習,KLaw可能剛好沒看到吧。KLaw這模板沒什麼
02/03 13:16, 16F

02/03 13:16, , 17F
問題,反正投手新秀養成牛本來就很正常。
02/03 13:16, 17F

02/04 13:39, , 18F
因為曾的變速球理論上應該是他目前最優秀的變化球種
02/04 13:39, 18F

02/04 13:39, , 19F
所以看到Law連提都沒提到就覺得很奇怪...
02/04 13:39, 19F

02/04 13:40, , 20F
倒是養成牛方面,記得之前不是有人拿黑田來比??
02/04 13:40, 20F

02/04 13:40, , 21F
雖然小弟非專業,不過畢竟好幾次看過他的投球實力
02/04 13:40, 21F

02/04 13:41, , 22F
對於他評價只有這樣還是讓我滿訝異的
02/04 13:41, 22F

02/04 13:41, , 23F
記得之前不知道看到哪個球探報告至少還能當個4.5號SP
02/04 13:41, 23F

02/04 13:42, , 24F
又或者是我記錯了.....
02/04 13:42, 24F

02/04 14:14, , 25F
比較可能是中後段沒錯啊,不會有人講低階球員至少如何
02/04 14:14, 25F

02/04 14:15, , 26F
黑田那是模板,模板是長得順利變那樣
02/04 14:15, 26F

02/04 14:15, , 27F
投球實力很強也沒錯,但大聯盟更強呀!
02/04 14:15, 27F

02/04 14:16, , 28F
可以對付日職明星隊的球員連輪值都進不去,這就是大聯盟
02/04 14:16, 28F

02/04 14:17, , 29F
非職業比賽可以有末段輪值支援就是神一般的存在了
02/04 14:17, 29F

02/04 20:57, , 30F
每個球探報告都有不同的看法
02/04 20:57, 30F

02/04 20:58, , 31F
對KLaw來說 就當他是個沒有球速且速球品質普通
02/04 20:58, 31F

02/04 20:58, , 32F
唯一亮點是曲球的右投手。
02/04 20:58, 32F

02/04 20:59, , 33F
實際狀況真如他的觀察狀況那般 這樣去牛棚真的不冤枉
02/04 20:59, 33F

02/04 20:59, , 34F
但是KLaw的問題就是他要負責太多小聯盟球員了
02/04 20:59, 34F

02/04 21:00, , 35F
而且他又不像John Sickels願意去參考各方意見
02/04 21:00, 35F

02/04 21:03, , 36F
作人G8、決策團隊小、實際的觀察不足都可能讓他的評價失真
02/04 21:03, 36F

02/04 21:03, , 37F
(不過,他是真的很厲害就是了)
02/04 21:03, 37F

02/04 21:05, , 38F
所以這份報告不喜歡曾仁和不是天塌下來
02/04 21:05, 38F

02/04 21:05, , 39F
你知道James Shields還是小聯盟新秀時最高的排名只有
02/04 21:05, 39F

02/04 21:06, , 40F
在BA 光芒TOP12還是13的名次嗎?
02/04 21:06, 40F

02/04 21:08, , 41F
但是那又如何?真正重要的還是球隊內部的看法
02/04 21:08, 41F

02/05 12:13, , 42F
David Kaplan說小熊在追求James Shields
02/05 12:13, 42F

02/05 12:13, , 43F
是給紅鳥抬價還是真心想買啊?
02/05 12:13, 43F

02/05 12:14, , 44F
如果James Shields夠便宜,合約長度合理也不是不能考慮啦
02/05 12:14, 44F
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