[轉錄][外電] Vince Carter to Chicago Bulls If Mag …

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※ [本文轉錄自 Orl-Magic 看板 #1CFMbIrD ] 作者: Sheffield3 (黃衫Ace曹錦輝) 看板: Orl-Magic 標題: [外電] Vince Carter to Chicago Bulls If Magic Re-Sign J.J. Redi 時間: Wed Jul 14 15:37:52 2010 NBA Trade Rumors: Vince Carter to Chicago Bulls If Magic Re-Sign J.J. Redick? While the Chicago Bulls anxiously await the Orlando Magic's decision on whether to match their three-year, $19 million offer sheet to J.J. Redick, Gar Forman and John Paxson should be forming a Plan B. So suppose Chicago does not acquire Orlando's prized backup shooting guard. Why not try to get the Magic's starting shooting guard then? Yes, Vince Carter is not the same player he was in Toronto or New Jersey. Though his skills have deteriorated, he has something even more valuable to teams across the league: a huge expiring contract. That contract could mean room for Carmelo Anthony. The Nuggets star would be a perfect fit on a Bulls team ready to contend in the Eastern Conference. If the Magic re-sign Redick for the amount the Bulls offered, he will be an expensive reserve. In fact, he alone will cost Orlando roughly $14 million next season, because every dollar the Magic pay him they also have to pay to the league as a penalty for exceeding the luxury tax. Point being, if the Magic like Redick so much, they would be willing to shed salary to reduce their financial burden. Here's where Vince comes into play. The Bulls could propose a trade of Luol Deng for Carter. They could even throw in a draft pick or two. It will save the Magic a good amount of money. The Bulls would get a shooting guard for a year, and cap room at the end of the 2010-11 season to pursue that final piece of the puzzle: Anthony. At the same time, it would also lessen the financial strain of re-signing Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah, both of whom are in-line to get major raises. For the Magic, Redick and Quentin Richardson would share shooting guard duties, while Deng and Mickael Pietrus could cover the small forward spot. Richardson would be able to play at a spot more favorable to him. It makes sense for both teams. The only roadblock could be the two teams' unwillingness to help another threat in the East. This is what makes the Redick deal so intriguing. Are the Bulls just setting a high price to force the Magic to spend well into the luxury tax, which could ultimately lead to Carter being dealt? Or are the Bulls trying to take a critical piece away from arguably their biggest competition, while simultaneously boosting their own roster? Beyond the obvious question of willingness to trade, another factor is the Bulls' strategy. Is this it? Are they stockpiling now and rolling the dice with the team they have? Or do they have a two-year plan in place? Is another run at a big-name free agent in their minds? It should be. The Bulls have done a wonderful job this offseason of getting the best players with whom they could surround Rose. Yet it's not enough. A lineup of Rose-Redick-Deng-Boozer-Noah cannot compete with LeBron James-Dwyane Wade-Mike Miller-Udonis Haslem-Chris Bosh. And that's without the Heat acquiring a starting center. It's probably not good enough to defeat Jameer Nelson-Carter-Richardson-Rashard Lewis-Dwight Howard either. Anthony still needs to be in the Bulls' sights. If the Heat indeed win a championship this season, it will validate the idea of great players teaming up to form a super squad. Orlando won't have the cap space for Anthony, even if they keep Carter until his deal expires. Boston won't have the cap space. The Bulls could have the cap space if they play their cards right. And they could have a former All-Star at shooting guard. It is a slippery slope to continue resting the success of a franchise on landing a free agent. Some may say Carmelo to the Bulls is a pipe dream. But he fits with Rose and Boozer and would be the dynamic scorer the Bulls need to space the floor, create matchup problems, and become a truly fearsome team. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.113.7.249

07/14 15:42,
VC換滷蛋 和滷蛋不熟...大家覺得怎麼樣?
07/14 15:42

07/14 15:45,
其實還是有點擔心VC走 JJ真的扛的住先發SG嗎
07/14 15:45

07/14 15:52,
要是我..站在VC迷的角度..樂觀其成..雖然有點不捨@@
07/14 15:52

07/14 15:54,
可是感覺滷蛋也沒便宜多少 加上JJ新的大約..
07/14 15:54

07/14 15:56,
滷蛋有點瘦
07/14 15:56

07/14 16:03,
是L.Deng嗎?是嗎?是嗎?這樣的話我們可以補上SF的鎖了
07/14 16:03

07/14 16:04,
阿Q跟JJ頂先發SG MP第六人 Deng補上SF 其實也是OK的
07/14 16:04

07/14 16:05,
VC迷的角度換了也不錯 ~ 看看公牛現在的陣容也不錯 ~
07/14 16:05

07/14 16:06,
VC也比較有發揮空間 ~ 會是雙贏 ~
07/14 16:06

07/14 16:07,
借轉公牛版
07/14 16:07
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07/14 16:09, , 1F
內容是說: CARTER的大合約明年到期.可以有利明年簽
07/14 16:09, 1F

07/14 16:10, , 2F
MELO....應該也只是作者的建議
07/14 16:10, 2F

07/14 16:12, , 3F
作者是建議魔術如果想留JJ又不想付豪華稅可以這樣換
07/14 16:12, 3F

07/14 16:13, , 4F
但問題是換來CARTER先發SF誰要扛..
07/14 16:13, 4F

07/14 16:40, , 5F
CARTER能勉強扛住SF嗎?不過我想到他上個賽季就汗顏...
07/14 16:40, 5F

07/14 17:26, , 6F
Deng 應該比較好
07/14 17:26, 6F

07/14 17:33, , 7F
能換成 就雙贏
07/14 17:33, 7F

07/14 17:42, , 8F
Carter防守好像不太行
07/14 17:42, 8F

07/14 17:52, , 9F
以現階段而言,Deng不論防守或進攻都勝Carter吧
07/14 17:52, 9F

07/14 17:53, , 10F
Carter老了,那麼想要他,他合約到期以中產簽他就好了
07/14 17:53, 10F

07/14 18:02, , 11F
幹...嘛換Carter,不過是篇幻想文,還好
07/14 18:02, 11F

07/14 18:03, , 12F
推樓上 換成功是魔術賺 哪來雙贏 如果MELO續約 有錢能幹嘛
07/14 18:03, 12F

07/14 18:05, , 13F
明年自由球員是中鋒較多 目前我們缺2.3號 有錢簽不到啥好咖
07/14 18:05, 13F

07/14 18:53, , 14F
CARTER再怎麼弱應該還是比Deng強吧
07/14 18:53, 14F

07/14 18:55, , 15F
Deng那麼弱魔術就別拿惹 應該要Rose + Noah
07/14 18:55, 15F

07/14 19:04, , 16F
Deng幾歲 Carter幾歲 Carter是還能打多久阿?
07/14 19:04, 16F

07/14 19:14, , 17F
VC有這麼糟糕嗎...而且他明年是到期約 管他打多久...
07/14 19:14, 17F

07/14 19:23, , 18F
Carter今年退化得蠻明顯的@@
07/14 19:23, 18F

07/14 19:25, , 19F
如果是打算清薪資的話那還可以 不過清完後找誰頂先發SF?
07/14 19:25, 19F

07/14 19:25, , 20F
確定搶得到Melo 這樣會不會有點冒險@@
07/14 19:25, 20F

07/14 19:27, , 21F
而且Demg除了外線出手少以外 年輕有防守 態度也不差
07/14 19:27, 21F

07/14 19:27, , 22F
除了約大了點久了點 真的是個好球員
07/14 19:27, 22F

07/14 19:35, , 23F
Rawallace是活在過去吧?請你看看數據~~Deng又年輕
07/14 19:35, 23F

07/14 19:36, , 24F
論傷病史 Carter 過去也不恍多讓,01~03缺席多少場
07/14 19:36, 24F

07/14 19:37, , 25F
過去carter比Deng好,但現在又老、又矮,防守又跟不上
07/14 19:37, 25F

07/14 19:37, , 26F
很好奇你為何說他現在會比Deng好
07/14 19:37, 26F

07/14 19:39, , 27F
到期約是要明年搶Melo?但是不可否認Deng這張約有點難橋
07/14 19:39, 27F

07/14 19:40, , 28F
哪有啥難橋 你看Gay都可以領比他多.....
07/14 19:40, 28F
還有 43 則推文
07/14 20:23, , 72F
是你先丟一句大絕...真的搞不清楚狀況
07/14 20:23, 72F

07/14 20:24, , 73F
搞清楚喔 是你先嗆聲討戰 不要打人喊救人 硬要黑說成白
07/14 20:24, 73F

07/14 20:24, , 74F
對 只有妳最清楚狀況 這樣行了吧
07/14 20:24, 74F

07/14 20:25, , 75F
多去看幾場VC的比賽吧...
07/14 20:25, 75F

07/14 20:25, , 76F
Deng的約到14年,應該還不用延長合約
07/14 20:25, 76F

07/14 20:25, , 77F
呵,小孩式的回答!不然請你說出V.C現在到底比Deng強
07/14 20:25, 77F

07/14 20:26, , 78F
很多到底強在哪?說啊?說的有理我欣然接受
07/14 20:26, 78F

07/14 20:26, , 79F
是這樣沒錯啊 明明大家在討論 你偏偏亂入
07/14 20:26, 79F

07/14 20:26, , 80F
那也請你多看幾場Deng的比賽 要吠再來這邊吠
07/14 20:26, 80F

07/14 20:27, , 81F
基本上他的思維邏輯比較特別,放大絕後還怪別人,真屌
07/14 20:27, 81F

07/14 20:28, , 82F
這裡有兩隻那麼會吠的 還輪不到我來吠
07/14 20:28, 82F

07/14 20:28, , 83F
BlueSky7091 我幫他回答 合約 年紀 傷病史都比Deng強
07/14 20:28, 83F

07/14 20:29, , 84F
吠?我想你的可以滾回你的狗窩繼續回憶以前的V.C多強
07/14 20:29, 84F

07/14 20:30, , 85F
還要繼續吠嗎?
07/14 20:30, 85F

07/14 20:31, , 86F
趕快坐時光機回到過去吧 留在過去時代的古人 這不歡迎你
07/14 20:31, 86F

07/14 20:31, , 87F
早就說了Carter那麼強 Deng哪換的起
07/14 20:31, 87F

07/14 20:32, , 88F
我等著看你倆還能吠出什麼東西來
07/14 20:32, 88F

07/14 20:32, , 89F
說不出道裡來只會硬凹嗆聲的,我輸給你囉,你厲害
07/14 20:32, 89F

07/14 20:32, , 90F
某蛙是退休後沒事閒釣魚嗎 科
07/14 20:32, 90F

07/14 20:33, , 91F
誰在硬凹阿 又沒說一定要換 只是希望看到能換成功罷了
07/14 20:33, 91F

07/14 20:33, , 92F
Carter起碼要換個Kobe或Wade吧~Deng哪夠看啊 (開心了吧 ^_<)
07/14 20:33, 92F

07/14 20:34, , 93F
回去把推文看清楚 你先嗆一句 然後一連串硬凹 像是討論嗎
07/14 20:34, 93F

07/14 20:35, , 94F
Q:誰在硬凹 A:Rawa*****
07/14 20:35, 94F

07/14 20:35, , 95F
如果你一開始把你的論點說出來 互換的好處 很歡迎啊 但就不是
07/14 20:35, 95F

07/14 20:36, , 96F
哈,他爽就好了!口氣先不好還怪人,又解釋不出什麼
07/14 20:36, 96F

07/14 20:42, , 97F
天氣熱真的大家火氣都很大 不過個人覺得Carter還是算了
07/14 20:42, 97F

07/14 20:52, , 98F
公牛現在不用一直想著要去抓誰吧,今年還被耍的不夠嗎
07/14 20:52, 98F

07/14 20:53, , 99F
乳摸還是聽聽就好,當時的小AI也嚇到很多人
07/14 20:53, 99F

07/14 20:53, , 100F
從現有核心再去填補缺陷的地方就好,未來性真的很夠
07/14 20:53, 100F

07/14 20:53, , 101F
更正,小AI不是乳摸是國外的幻想文
07/14 20:53, 101F

07/14 20:54, , 102F
我指的是要清空間抓明年的Melo,要是他延長合約呢=.=
07/14 20:54, 102F

07/14 20:54, , 103F
這篇也是幻想文阿
07/14 20:54, 103F

07/14 21:11, , 104F
同樣是幻想文 這提議就糟糕多了 現在還有一篇Granger的幻想文
07/14 21:11, 104F

07/14 21:30, , 105F
某R實在夠白目 Deng雖說不上多強 但要贏過現在的VC是
07/14 21:30, 105F

07/14 21:30, , 106F
綽綽有餘
07/14 21:30, 106F

07/14 21:35, , 107F
現在的公牛又不太需要到期約 補齊陣容就衝冠軍了還到期約
07/14 21:35, 107F

07/16 00:21, , 108F
= =有點擔心...
07/16 00:21, 108F

12/10 13:17, 5年前 , 109F
但別丟一句V.C在怎麼 https://noxiv.com
12/10 13:17, 109F

04/19 03:13, 5年前 , 110F
個洞,能不能搶到Ant https://moxox.com
04/19 03:13, 110F

04/19 03:14, 5年前 , 111F
順帶補充一下, 就算要 http://yaxiv.com
04/19 03:14, 111F
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