[外電] Ainge Asked For Harden First

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新聞出處(必填):http://0rz.tw/1dS3T 作者:Matt Moore When the Kendrick Perkins trade went through, there was a considerable amount of flabbergasting about what it was Boston saw in Jeff Green. That’s only intensified since, especially with the Celtics eliminated in the second round and Green coughing up a pair of killer turnovers down the stretch in Game 5. The Celtics have consistently maintained that Green was the guy they want, and they even plan on giving him a qualifying offer to keep him around. Danny Ainge thinks Green is a big part of the Celtics’ future. 當KP的交易過後 人們好奇C's管理團隊到底是看上Green哪點? 尤其當Green在第五戰發生了那致命的失誤後 C's繼續維持他們的看法 Green就是他們要的人 甚至打算將Green留下來 安吉認為Green是未來球隊重要的拼圖 But an interesting element came out of ESPN’s Bill Simmons’ podcast with Boston radio broadcaster Sean Grande this week. As SBNation’s Mike Prada noted: The Celtics began talks with the Thunder not for Jeff Green, but for James Harden. You know, the James Harden that has been en fuego since the trade deadline and has become a legitimate third playmaker for the Thunder and a nightmare for opponents? That James Harden? 但B.Simmons爆了個有趣的料 在一個訪問中 他提到 C's 一開始想要得 其實是 Harden 那個狀況火熱,成為第三得分點,敵隊夢魘的Harden ? Getting past how incredible it is that Presti continues to make the right move no matter what the evidence tells him to (and the evidence would have told him Harden was an acceptable price for Perkins prior to the trade deadline), we’ve got an interesting What If question here. How would Harden have impacted the Celtics? 而雷霆總管真神 硬是不丟Harden 儘管證據顯示用Harden換KP也是值得的交易 但這也讓人好奇 如果當時來C's的是Harden 現在會是甚麼情況? Well, for one, it would have given them another distributor and playmaker who could drive, lessening the impact of Rajon Rondo‘s injury. It would have provided a younger defender to sick on Dwyane Wade who did the most damage. And it would have given them a versatile building block who could have really learned behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce while being the young cornerstone they need without the inconsistencies and dreaded “tweener” label Jeff Green comes with. In short, it would have been better all around. It may not have made the difference in a Celtics win or loss against the Heat, but you have to think Harden would have given them more than Green, who didn’t seem to adjust to life in the Celtics’ locker room after years in the warm bosom of the OKC locker room. 首先 這會讓C's擁有另一個能切入得分的球員 從Rondo傷勢得到的教訓 有了Harden 可以提供一個年輕肉體去盯防那對我們造成極大傷害的Wade 他能成為 雷槍 PP的好替補 而想找重建基石的話 他們也得找個殺手級的雙能衛 而目前看來 比Green好的選擇多的是 雖然不見得Harden來就能扭轉系列賽的結果 但他能做得一定比那還沒適應C's生活及離開OKC溫暖懷抱的Green 還要多更多 Green would still be with the Thunder, likely being criticized as fans called for Ibaka to get more playing time (one of the best results of the trade for Perkins, along with moving Ibaka to PF next to Perk), knocking down the occasional three and getting bowled over by Zach Randolph. For Celtics fans, this all comes as another twist in a series of knife twists that have spelled what appears to be their doom, even with Doc coming back. The confidence in Ainge is unlikely to be boosted by the idea that it could have been Harden, showcasing his talents against Memphis currently, rather than Green, who the Celtics would have gotten for the franchise center. 而Green仍然會留在OKC 接受球迷的批評 希望球隊多讓IBAKA上場 (KP交易對雷霆的好處之一,讓IBAKA能扶正打先發) 而Green也只能偶爾砍顆三分 然後在這系列被Z-Bo打爆 而對C's球迷來說 即使Doc續約了 但在沒能得到Harden 得到那位在面對灰熊時展露自己所擁有比Green更好的才華的Harden後 還是很難對安吉產生信心 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.112.168.119

05/15 14:54, , 1F
這種都是腦補,Green不來BBD上場時間就多了
05/15 14:54, 1F

05/15 14:55, , 2F
這樣難道會比較好嗎?何況Harden來難道就會適應良好??
05/15 14:55, 2F

05/15 14:56, , 3F
何況當初真的是要Harden,還是ESPN裡面自己猜的
05/15 14:56, 3F

05/15 14:57, , 4F
應該是真的有先問 想找2、3號替補 Harden當然是優先
05/15 14:57, 4F

05/15 14:57, , 5F
Harden也許可以守住Wade,那LBJ哩!!這種馬後炮誰都會
05/15 14:57, 5F

05/15 14:57, , 6F
特地找Green來當四號替補?沒人知道BBD會一直低迷下去
05/15 14:57, 6F

05/15 14:58, , 7F
Harden能守住LBJ.....我很懷疑,頂多就是雙能衛
05/15 14:58, 7F

05/15 14:58, , 8F
六呎五吋打SF還是有點吃力吧
05/15 14:58, 8F

05/15 15:02, , 9F
馬後砲 Harden不見得會比較快融入 而補了SG一樣會
05/15 15:02, 9F

05/15 15:03, , 10F
留下SF的洞 反之亦然 
05/15 15:03, 10F

05/15 15:06, , 11F
Harden來我可想到的只有他在雷霆也是打替補的,所以
05/15 15:06, 11F

05/15 15:06, , 12F
來這當替補,他應該可以接受這樣的時間
05/15 15:06, 12F

05/15 15:09, , 13F
而且Rondo的傷勢是意外阿...講這個太馬後砲了
05/15 15:09, 13F

05/15 15:10, , 14F
不過如果是要Harden+Thabo,那又是另外一回事了...
05/15 15:10, 14F

05/15 15:17, , 15F
這是幹嘛........真的是馬後炮............
05/15 15:17, 15F

05/15 15:18, , 16F
不過看這篇後,我突然覺得能交易到Green應該是安吉料
05/15 15:18, 16F

05/15 15:19, , 17F
想不到的...Green可能算是雷霆自己想丟出去的
05/15 15:19, 17F

05/15 15:38, , 18F
其實我對小綠蠻有信心跟愛的,他擁有我們缺乏的運動力
05/15 15:38, 18F

05/15 15:38, , 19F
很期待下一季的表現
05/15 15:38, 19F

05/15 15:39, , 20F
green沒有不好阿 只是需要再給他一點時間
05/15 15:39, 20F

05/15 15:40, , 21F
而且也很會灌 是我們缺乏的激情(灌在頭上彈出來)
05/15 15:40, 21F

05/15 15:41, , 22F
Wafer表示:
05/15 15:41, 22F

05/15 15:42, , 23F
有丹丹的近況嗎?
05/15 15:42, 23F
※ 編輯: nogoodlaugh 來自: 59.112.168.119 (05/15 15:48)

05/15 15:48, , 24F
哈哈哈,也很期待Wafer,季中越打越好,只可惜後來受傷
05/15 15:48, 24F

05/15 15:52, , 25F
不,我講到Wafer是指他的灌籃...
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05/15 15:55, , 27F
因為我灌不到籃 但是球有沒有灌進球員自己不知道的嗎
05/15 15:55, 27F

05/15 15:57, , 28F
真的沒辦法理解 wafer真的是一整個狀況外 可惜了
05/15 15:57, 28F

05/15 16:15, , 29F
說做的更多有點太超過了
05/15 16:15, 29F

05/15 16:16, , 30F
Harden或許會融入得比較快,但小綠更能補足我們的缺憾
05/15 16:16, 30F

05/15 16:18, , 31F
小綠要融入的是防守中樞耶 沒那麼簡單
05/15 16:18, 31F

05/15 16:20, , 32F
有大大研究過溜馬的保羅喬治嗎
05/15 16:20, 32F

05/15 16:31, , 33F
雖然這組陣容只拿一次冠軍...但是Doc常拿來說嘴的事
05/15 16:31, 33F

05/15 16:31, , 34F
樓上以為我們會放PG嗎?
05/15 16:31, 34F

05/15 16:32, , 35F
實將成永恆.."KP+Rondo+GAP"的先發陣容沒輸過系列賽
05/15 16:32, 35F

05/15 16:34, , 36F
對雷霆而言Harden可以扶正SG,而Green本來就多餘
05/15 16:34, 36F

05/15 16:35, , 37F
無論怎麼安排,如果下季Green還在的話,希望是先發
05/15 16:35, 37F

05/15 17:29, , 38F
Green 在雷霆的處境有點尷尬 三號有KD 四號會被打點
05/15 17:29, 38F

05/15 17:29, , 39F
沒搶到大鬍子有點可惜
05/15 17:29, 39F

05/15 17:56, , 40F
致命的失誤是哪一球 有影片嗎?
05/15 17:56, 40F

05/15 18:17, , 41F
雷霆交易後也沒打的比交易前較好 拿了KP卻不知如何使
05/15 18:17, 41F

05/15 18:18, , 42F
用的雷霆 就算被灰熊幹倒 也不意外
05/15 18:18, 42F

05/15 20:08, , 43F
如果現在小綠還在雷霆 球隊得分可能高一些
05/15 20:08, 43F

05/15 20:08, , 44F
不過灰熊禁區得分會更高XD
05/15 20:08, 44F

05/15 23:24, , 45F
哈電又不會比較好...
05/15 23:24, 45F

05/15 23:49, , 46F
馬後炮 有多少人能在這麼短時間融入?
05/15 23:49, 46F

05/16 02:58, , 47F
本年度C's最失敗交易
05/16 02:58, 47F

05/16 08:47, , 48F
可惜應該是沒兩隻換到吧,安吉如果有手腕一點的話
05/16 08:47, 48F

05/16 08:50, , 49F
Perkins晉級西區冠軍了!!!!!
05/16 08:50, 49F

05/16 08:51, , 50F
打太快.....晉級西區冠軍賽....
05/16 08:51, 50F

05/16 09:12, , 51F
雖然Harden持球切入跟進攻意識較好,但我比較愛小綠
05/16 09:12, 51F

05/16 09:17, , 52F
個人覺得小綠這種球員比較難找
05/16 09:17, 52F

05/16 09:33, , 53F
樓上下一季會成為最佳第六人嗎? XDDD
05/16 09:33, 53F

05/16 10:05, , 54F
請大家支持Pierce下季拿下最佳第六人
05/16 10:05, 54F

05/16 10:29, , 55F
Thibo贏囉~
05/16 10:29, 55F

05/16 11:34, , 56F
我對Green不是很看好…應該說河流真的給Green信任嗎?
05/16 11:34, 56F

05/16 17:03, , 57F
PP大不錯喔XDDDDDDDD 公園系最佳第六人 可以想像!
05/16 17:03, 57F

05/16 18:03, , 58F
我到覺得green真的還不錯用 肯防守會三分會背框
05/16 18:03, 58F

05/16 18:04, , 59F
給他時間平均得分15以上應該不是問題 重點是給不給
05/16 18:04, 59F

05/16 18:14, , 60F
Pierce下季拿最佳第六人有點難,河流對Green愛還不夠
05/16 18:14, 60F

05/16 18:29, , 61F
gosh 冰河 休賽期間多練一下吧
05/16 18:29, 61F

05/16 20:39, , 62F
如果以冠軍隊為目標的話 Green連當第二人都很難啊...
05/16 20:39, 62F
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